I really, really didn't want this to fail.
Really.
After all, the right wing fringe deserves to be represented, too.
Apparently, just like every other right wing fringe party in US history, this one is also imploding.
Its just happening a little more quickly this time.

quote Bachmann cancels Tea Party appearance Posted by Kevin Diaz Last update: January 28, 2010 - 12:14 PM Rep. Michele Bachmann has become the latest high-profile conservative to bag the rapidly unraveling Tea Party Convention in Nashville next week. The Minnesota Republican, who has become something of a heroine of the Tea Party movement, decided Thursday morning that she is cancelling her appearance at the Gaylord Opryland Hotel next Friday, where she was scheduled to be a breakfast speaker. One of the only other elected officials scheduled to appear, Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., also has backed out, citing similar concerns. Both Blackburn and Bachmann sought legal guidance in recent days from lawyers in the House Ethics Committee. According to Dziok, they got “conflicting advice.” That was enough to put on the brakes. No word yet on Palin’s plans, but as a former government official, she may not face the same legal questions. Unlike Palin, who is reportedly getting a $100,000 speaking fee, Dziok said Bachmann was not getting any money for her speech. Update: In a formal statement, Bachmann's office made clear that her decision doesn't mean she's turning her back on her Tea Party supporters. http://www.startribune.com/...rksUUUoDEy3LGDiO7aiU

Yeah. Right.
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Uhm, so canceling a single speaking engagement is the equivalent of "turning you back" on an entire movement? I see...

(Oh the irony of Neptune accusing anyone else of trolling political posts... Ah, I see he edited it out now...)

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quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE in cherry picked fashion: I really, really didn't want this to fail. Really. After all, the right wing fringe deserves to be represented, too. Apparently, just like every other right wing fringe party in US history, this one is also imploding. Its just happening a little more quickly this time. [QUOTE] Bachmann cancels Tea Party appearance Posted by Kevin Diaz Last update: January 28, 2010 - 12:14 PM Rep. Michele Bachmann has become the latest high-profile conservative to bag the rapidly unraveling Tea Party Convention in Nashville next week. The Minnesota Republican, who has become something of a heroine of the Tea Party movement, decided Thursday morning that she is cancelling her appearance at the Gaylord Opryland Hotel next Friday, where she was scheduled to be a breakfast speaker. One of the only other elected officials scheduled to appear, Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., also has backed out, citing similar concerns. Both Blackburn and Bachmann sought legal guidance in recent days from lawyers in the House Ethics Committee. According to Dziok, they got “conflicting advice.” That was enough to put on the brakes. No word yet on Palin’s plans, but as a former government official, she may not face the same legal questions. Unlike Palin, who is reportedly getting a $100,000 speaking fee, Dziok said Bachmann was not getting any money for her speech. Update: In a formal statement, Bachmann's office made clear that her decision doesn't mean she's turning her back on her Tea Party supporters. http://www.startribune.com/...rksUUUoDEy3LGDiO7aiU

quote Yeah. Right.

Nice spin attempt.
Here's the whole story.
Ethics concerns regarding the organizer who has financial problems of his own, The cancellations have nothing to do with the movement itself. Pretty self explanatory, and I can't say I blame them for not wanting to give people reason to whine.

quote Rep. Michele Bachmann has become the latest high-profile conservative to bag the rapidly unraveling Tea Party Convention in Nashville next week. The Minnesota Republican, who has become something of a heroine of the Tea Party movement, decided Thursday morning that she is cancelling her appearance at the Gaylord Opryland Hotel next Friday, where she was scheduled to be a breakfast speaker. Bachmann’s office cited the same concerns that other Tea Party activists have voiced about the first-of-its-kind national gathering: namely, the for-profit model of organizer Judson Phillips, a self-described “small town lawyer” with a history of financial problems. Phillips has announced that the $549-a-head convention featuring Sarah Palin is sold out. But Tea Party critics and allies alike have been asking questions about what Phillips plans to do with the money. Concrete answers have been in short supply, and in the end it looked like too big a risk for any public office holder. “We’re out,” said Bachmann spokesman Dave Dziok. “It comes down to conflicting advice as to how these profits are going to be used after the fact. We’d rather err on the side of caution than do it and find out it’s improper... with somebody saying ‘they’re using the money from an event you were at to support this and this,’ which comes as a direct conflict with what you’re doing as a member of Congress.” One of the only other elected officials scheduled to appear, Rep. Marsha Blackburn, R-Tenn., also has backed out, citing similar concerns. Both Blackburn and Bachmann sought legal guidance in recent days from lawyers in the House Ethics Committee. According to Dziok, they got “conflicting advice.” That was enough to put on the brakes. No word yet on Palin’s plans, but as a former government official, she may not face the same legal questions. Unlike Palin, who is reportedly getting a $100,000 speaking fee, Dziok said Bachmann was not getting any money for her speech. Update: In a formal statement, Bachmann's office made clear that her decision doesn't mean she's turning her back on her Tea Party supporters: "Some will want to portray her withdrawal as a repudiation of the Tea Party Movement, but that couldn’t be further from the truth. Congresswoman Bachmann remains encouraged by all Americans, regardless of political party, who are concerned about this nation’s future and dwindling prosperity, and continues to be inspired their passion."

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The guy organizing the Nashville "convention" was shady, and we had our doubts.

Nice try, Neptune. Keep hoping, if that's what gets you through the night.

Looks like a terd, smell like a terd, smears like a terd, yup Neptune has dropped another one. You are nothing more than a cartoon and even less relevant.

Jim

quote Originally posted by jimbolaya: Looks like a terd, smell like a terd, smears like a terd, yup Neptune has dropped another one. You are nothing more than a cartoon and even less relevant. Jim

Awwww....
Don't sugar coat it, what do you really think?

quote originally posted by NEPTUNE: I really, really didn't want this to fail. Really. After all, the right wing fringe deserves to be represented, too.

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quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Awwww.... Don't sugar coat it, what do you really think

You linked to a news article from last April, and your point has already been proven wrong. Are you brain damaged?

Don't worry about us.
I will go out on the limb and say we will be represented even in the most liberal state in the union, MA.
Wait didn't that already happen?
While sitting in the Hopey-Dopey bus, do not worry about what is going on on the right side, keep you eyes forward, it is about to crash into that brick wall.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Awwww.... Don't sugar coat it, what do you really think?

I think you went all the way to a Canadian liberal sponsored website to find what you wanted to read. Google Chris Parry. A notoriously left leaning opinion writer and blogger.

Nope--no spin there.

quote Originally posted by maryjane: I think you went all the way to a Canadian liberal sponsored website to find what you wanted to read. Google Chris Parry. A notoriously left leaning opinion writer and blogger. Nope--no spin there.

So do you hate the source, or the message?
Or ME?
(I already know the answer, but you MAY surprise me.)

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NEPTUNE, don't you have some poo to stir in your garden instead of here?

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quote Originally posted by kyunderdawg: NEPTUNE, don't you have some poo to stir in your garden instead of here?

He might be hanging out here. Judging by the juvenile, smart ass, lacking-in-substance content of the articles and comments, it sounds about right.

Oh, do I enjoy it with leftists get biatch slapped. They never tell the whole truth, do they?

Once you know the real story, it flies back in their face.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: So do you hate the source, or the message? Or ME? (I already know the answer, but you MAY surprise me.)

I'd like to think that you're a person who sincerely cares. I would.
I'd like to think you're rational. I truly would.
Because if you were these things, we could talk, together, as people do. We could address our concerns, and reach a rational understanding.

But everything you say, and the way you say it, makes me think that you're either:
(1) an irrational fanatic;
(2) brain dead; or
(3) a troll.

That's the impression you leave. It is your legacy. You want to surprise me, find a way to communicate with others that goes at least slightly beyond "screw you."

And why should anyone care whether they "surprise" you? You assume a status you do not have, that you somehow are better than others here. Your self-assumed superiority is backed by less than nothing.

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quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: So do you hate the source, or the message? Or ME? (I already know the answer, but you MAY surprise me.)

As I told you in the other thread a week or so ago--I am able to differentiate between political rhetoric and personal attributes. If we are not friends, it is because you choose not to be. Wolfhound and I are on completely different ends of the political graph, but I have loads of respect for him and count him among only a handful of people here I would trust with my life and that of my family--not because of his military experience, but because of his integrity and ethics.

Sorry--I left my hate somewhere a long ways away and a long time ago.

Now, to answer your question:
I dislike the delivery. It's condenscending and devisive, which of course, was to objective of the writer to begin with, but I hate neither/ It is what it is--political rhetoric.

quote Originally posted by Formula88:

Oh my that is funny

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE:

Way to pat yourself on the back... that was well deserved and doesnt look at all pompous, being the first reply to your own post and all...

That being said, everyone relax, they're liberals, they have no concept of ethics, the idea scares and confuses them...

quote Originally posted by fierobear: He might be hanging out here. Judging by the juvenile, smart ass, lacking-in-substance content of the articles and comments, it sounds about right.

Wow!
Thanks for that, Fierobear.
Thats some really funny stuff!
I usually hang out here or here, though.

And Don, you did surprise me.
Thank you.

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Neptune grasping at straws again....

quote Originally posted by jaskispyder: Neptune grasping at straws again....

I prefer to drink from the cup.
Straws are for McChildren.

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quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Wow! Thanks for that, Fierobear. Thats some funny stuff!

You haven't seen that site before? You may want to have a talk with RobPetrified, he might be plagiarizing you

quote I posted this comment on a NON right wing fringe dominated forum: I thought Air America died when Al Franken left to become a senator. I’m too busy living my life and harrassing crazy tea baggers to spend three hours each day listening to a mirror image of right wing hate radio. I suspect that thats why this (marginally worthy) experiment was doomed to failure from the start.

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F.../HTML/071562.html#p7

quote RobPetrified says at 9:06 pm, January 21st, 2010 I thought Air America died when Al Franken left. I’m too busy living my life and harrassing tea baggers to spend three hours listening to a mirror image of right wing hate radio. I suspect that thats why this (worthy) experiment failed.

http://wonkette.com/413313/413313#comment-499206

well, it no less substanstantial as the other endless partisan threads which have shocking titles - yet - when read - nothing.
betcha theres at least 5 of them on page 1 of O/T right now.

and, I would hope that one day, this "Tea Party" crap would actually live up to its name, instead of being a bunch of sulking babies.

Thanks for the bump, kwagner.
Didn't say I've never been there.
I've been to lots of places.
But I don't LIVE there.
You have way too much free time

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quote Originally posted by 86GT3.4DOHC: Way to pat yourself on the back... that was well deserved and doesnt look at all pompous, being the first reply to your own post and all... That being said, everyone relax, they're liberals, they have no concept of ethics, the idea scares and confuses them...

I don't know that libs have no ethics. In fact, I believe that they truly have the best intentions at heart. The problem in trying to have discussions with them is that (most) aren't driven by logic as much as emotion. And you can't rationalize with an emotional person because emotions aren't logical, they're emotions. That's why they usually have the "we must save everyone no matter what the cost" mentality and they believe it so fiercely that have a driving need to convince everyone else of their beliefs. It's like a religion.

"Intellect is not measured by what we know, but our awareness of how little we know, and our willingness to let go of what we think we know."
Even caught red-handed trying to manipulate a story to his benefit, Neptune can't admit it because he's so convinced that what he believes is right, and he isn't capable of seeing anything any other way.

quote Originally posted by Taijiguy: I don't know that libs have no ethics. In fact, I believe that they truly have the best intentions at heart. The problem in trying to have discussions with them is that (most) aren't driven by logic as much as emotion. And you can't rationalize with an emotional person because emotions aren't logical, they're emotions. That's why they usually have the "we must save everyone no matter what the cost" mentality and they believe it so fiercely that have a driving need to convince everyone else of their beliefs. It's like a religion. "Intellect is not measured by what we know, but our awareness of how little we know, and our willingness to let go of what we think we know." Even caught red-handed trying to manipulate a story to his benefit, Neptune can't admit it because he's so convinced that what he believes is right, and he isn't capable of seeing anything any other way.

And all those cons have an us vs them mentality?

Can't we just get up, go to work and get along?
Oh, and pass a health care reform bill?

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quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Thanks for the bump, kwagner. Didn't say I've never been there. I've been to lots of places. But I don't LIVE there. You have way too much free time

When you posted that on the fiero forum I was curious where else it was posted. A quick google search with a part of the quote found it. I'll be the first to admit I do some odd things when I'm bored

Bonus points if you get the Rob Petrified joke.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: And all those cons have an us vs them mentality? Can't we just get up, go to work and get along? Oh, and pass a health care reform bill?

At the risk of trying to do the impossible I'll just say this:

Both sides have an "us vs. them" mentality. And sure, we could get up and get to work, but the problem is always going to be our individual perspectives on personal responsibility. You can pretty much throw out any other argument, because if you boil every single issue down to it's most basic component, it's going to be about personal responsibility. Conservatives believe (generally) that people should be responsible for themselves, and the burden for the well being or care of those who choose not to be responsible for themselves should not fall on the shoulders of those who *are* responsible. And no, I'm not talking about those who are incapable of taking care of themselves, but that's a minuscule number that isn't really relevant.

I don't think we need a national health care program where the successful pay for the rest of the country. Health care is not a right. What we need is to rework the existing system and bring the cost down to something reasonable.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: I prefer to drink from the cup. Straws are for McChildren.

Sounds like you still need a straw...

quote Originally posted by jaskispyder: Sounds like you still need a straw...

And you have a sippy cup, perhaps?

J/K.
ITS A JOKE.

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No, we shouldn't pass the so called "health care reform" bill. It is not a reform, it is a health care take-over bill. Take, take, take... that is all the liberals want... they want to take everything from someone else. They want to take away wealth and freedom. This is the same thinking that liberals have with health-care. Take good plans away from those who EARN them. Take money away from people who EARN it. Take away your choice for insurance provides. The list goes on and on. And if you think they want to "give" you health care, you are mistaken, they want to take away your ability to make your own choices.

It is pretty funny the number of democrats that are running scared because of ONE senator. Talk about saving your own skin... I guess the democrats are showing their yellow streak again.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: And all those cons have an us vs them mentality? Can't we just get up, go to work and get along? Oh, and pass a health care reform bill?

You insulted me, and I responded with a joke.
Who would YOU rather have a beer with at the end of the day?
The insulter, or the joker ?
I have to go to work, now, so I'll read your response later.

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quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Who would YOU rather have a beer with at the end of the day? The insulter, or the joker ?

Who ever is buying, .

I am sorry that you feel it was an insult, I am only stating how I feel about the subject. Would you rather I just said that I was joking? It wouldn't change how I feel about your comments and support for the liberal agenda. We see things differently and unlike Obama, I don't believe a "beer summit" would change my feelings. I can see where you are coming from, but I don't have to agree with you.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: You insulted me, and I responded with a joke. Who would YOU rather have a beer with at the end of the day? The insulter, or the joker ? I have to go to work, now, so I'll read your response later.

Did the aliens forget to remove the big spiky anal probe ?? Chavez ,Castro, Putin,and Obamas other soap up buddy,s have demanded the tea parties ,,these people are Bolsheviks,Obama is a Bolshevik his mentor was a commie,,his father was a commie,, his mother was a commie !! GUESS WHAT?? this guy is destroying america and Im surprised some men have not gotten together and stormed the White House .
When the Obiteme team Stabbed Poland and the Ukraine in the back ,,and put the BIG smile on the KGB scumm & commizar Putin ,,now running Russia He showed more of his true Red Colors
The Original Tea party members are deadin thier grave Many ,many even on a forum as left wing as this one must have felt theroll overand heard the cries
the Whitehouse is full of the red/commies/socialist I fought most of my life ,,I wish them to stand on a chair and tie the rope around thier neck,I would gladly kick the chair for them,, as I wish all men to get what they so richly deserve ,,when I heard Bitchelle did not like america ..I wish her to go elsewhere ,some where extremely HOT/
I am a sh.. creek survivor ,,how far up sh.. creek will this red scum send us

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: Bonus points if you get the Rob Petrified joke.

I don't, actually. Only thing I can find is a gangster movie The Petrified Forest by Robert Sherwood, but I doubt that's it. Care to fill me in?