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Afghanistan continues to fester while U no who does nothing... by htexans1
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Report this Post10-14-2009 08:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for htexans1Send a Private Message to htexans1Direct Link to This Post
WARNING: This is political and opinionated in nature.
This article covers what is going on here in the US while the Obama regime continues to waffle on Afghanistan. He isn't listening to his Generals on the ground, and the Taliban and its allies continues to create problems.

WHEN IS ENOUGH INCOMPENTENCE ENOUGH?

Is there any way we can vote "No confidence" in this regime? there has got to be some way to hold an incompent regime acountable and remove them from office. We need to take the harness off of our forces -- stop the micromanagement and allow them to kill anything that moves. (Sources have reported that women and children are helping insurgents and acting as combatants.)

/soapbox rant.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/..._re_us/us_nyc_terror
NEW YORK – The airport shuttle driver accused of plotting a bombing in New York had contacts with al-Qaida that went nearly all the way to the top, to an Osama bin Laden confidant believed to be the terrorist group's leader in Afghanistan, U.S. intelligence officials told The Associated Press.

Mustafa Abu al-Yazid, an Egyptian reputed to be one of the founders of the terrorist network, used a middleman to contact Afghan immigrant Najibullah Zazi as the 24-year-old man hatched a plot to use homemade backpack bombs, perhaps on the city's mass transit system, the two intelligence officials said.

Intelligence officials declined to discuss the nature of the contact or whether al-Yazid contacted Zazi to offer simple encouragement or help with the bombing plot prosecutors say Zazi was pursuing.

Al-Yazid's contact with Zazi indicates that al-Qaida leadership took an intense interest in what U.S. officials have called one of the most serious terrorism threats crafted on U.S. soil since the 9/11 attacks.

"Zazi working with the al-Qaida core is exceptionally alarming," said Daniel Bynam of the Brookings Institution's Saban Center. "The al-Qaida core is capable of far more effective terrorist attacks than jihadist terrorists acting on their own, and coordination with the core also enables bin Laden to choose the timing to maximize the benefit to his organization."

U.S. intelligence officials said earlier that Zazi had contact with an unnamed senior al-Qaida operative. That helped distinguish Zazi from other would-be terrorists who have acted on their own in planning or attempting U.S. attacks.

The officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity because the case remains under investigation, declined to describe al-Yazid's specific interaction with Zazi, who has pleaded not guilty to conspiring to use weapons of mass destruction. But one senior U.S. intelligence official said the contact between Zazi and the senior al-Qaida leader occurred through an intermediary.

Just weeks before U.S. intelligence officials identified Zazi as a possible terrorist threat in late August, John Brennan, President Barack Obama's top domestic terrorism adviser, told a Washington audience that "another attack on the U.S. homeland remains the top priority for the al-Qaida senior leadership."

U.S. intelligence officials and prosecutors have said that Zazi was recruited and trained by al-Qaida. They say he and others traveled last year to Pakistan to receive the training.

Prosecutors say Zazi, during meetings with federal investigators before his arrest last month, "admitted that he received instructions from al-Qaida operatives on subjects such as weapons and explosives" during his trip to Pakistan.

Arthur Folsom, Zazi's Denver lawyer, said Wednesday he was not aware of a claim that his client had contact with al-Yazid or any other senior al-Qaida leader. He said Zazi told investigators he met with a number of people while in Pakistan.

"He may well have talked to someone at a coffee shop who had some type of connection he wasn't aware of," Folsom said. "Under those grounds, guess what? I have a connection to al-Qaida and so do you."

Folsom said prosecutors have mischaracterized comments Zazi made after he voluntarily agreed to meet before his arrest last month. Folsom said those comments have "been wildly exaggerated or blown out of proportion."

Folsom said Zazi never said he visited a training camp or received explosive training from al-Qaida. Folsom said he doesn't know who the government claims his client contacted who may have had al-Qaida connections.

"They either don't know or won't say who this person is," Folsom said, referring to prosecutors. "It's hard for us to comment on this because we don't know who this person is."

Folsom said he was in New York meeting with prosecutors and investigators over the weekend and that was not mentioned.

Zazi, who is being held without bond in New York while awaiting trial, has denied receiving al-Qaida training or visiting one of the group's training camps. He said before his arrest that he traveled to Pakistan to see his wife, who lives in Peshawar.

In court documents, prosecutors say Zazi is linked to three e-mail accounts that he used to pursue his bomb plot. Investigators say they found nine pages of handwritten bomb-making instructions when searching two of the e-mail accounts. The notes were sent to the e-mail accounts while Zazi was in Pakistan last year, prosecutors say.

The bomb, which can be made of hydrogen peroxide and flour, is similar to the explosives used by terrorists in the 2005 London subway bombings that killed 52 people.

Prosecutors say Zazi accessed the bomb-making instructions and downloaded them on to his computer after moving to the Denver area in January. In a Colorado hotel suite in early September, Zazi contacted someone "on multiple occasions" for help correcting mixtures of bomb ingredients, "each communication more urgent in tone than the last," court papers say.

Al-Yazid, 53, also known as Abu Saeed al-Masri and Sheikh Said, is a well-known al-Qaida figure who initially disagreed with bin Laden's 9/11 plot, according to the 9/11 Commission Report. Al-Yazid was known at the time of the attack as head of al-Qaida's finance committee.

He proclaimed in a June interview with Al-Jazeera television that al-Qaida would use nuclear weapons in its fight against the United States.

A member of Egypt's radical Islamist movement, al-Yazid took part in the 1981 assassination of President Anwar Sadat, according to "In the Graveyard of Empires," a book by counterterrorism expert Seth G. Jones. He spent three years in prison, where he joined Ayman al-Zawahiri's Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Jones wrote. al-Zawahiri is considered al-Qaida's No. 2 leader, behind Osama bin Laden.

Al-Yazid left Egypt for Afghanistan in 1988 and later moved to Sudan in 1991 with bin Laden, serving as his accountant. Al-Yazid returned to Afghanistan in 1996 and became a confidant of bin Laden and a member of its Shura Council, according to Jones.

In 2007, al-Yazid took over al-Qaida operations in Afghanistan.

He was reported killed last year in clashes with Pakistani forces near the Afghan border in August 2008 but re-emerged to the surprise of counterterrorism officials.

Terrorism experts say al-Yazid's contact with Zazi in the foiled New York City bombing plot underscores the seriousness of the threat.

"I think that it would suggest the Zazi was taken seriously by al-Qaida, and that they wanted him to feel encouraged and supported," said Charles S. Faddis, who headed the weapons of mass destruction unit at the CIA's Counterterrorism Center until he retired in May 2008.

"It may also have meant that they were attempting to determine to what extent he represented an opportunity to do something inside the United States," said Faddis, who also ran operations against al-Qaida. "For instance, they may have been trying to figure out if they were looking only at an individual or at someone who represented a larger group of jihadists."

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But the entire healthcare system has to be overhauled NOW, NOW, NOW!!!!

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Originally posted by fierobear:

But the entire healthcare system has to be overhauled NOW, NOW, NOW!!!!



Was JUST gonna post that.

Heathcare, more important then the wars and the job situation, and the economy...Heathcare is part of the problem, but there are a ton of other sinkin' ships sinkin' a lot faster...bah.

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There are many fires to put out, but dousing them with gasolene is the wrong solution.
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Originally posted by FieroRumor:


Was JUST gonna post that.

Heathcare, more important then the wars and the job situation, and the economy...Heathcare is part of the problem, but there are a ton of other sinkin' ships sinkin' a lot faster...bah.


...and the irony is, the healthcare overhaul wouldn't take affect until 2013.

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Originally posted by fierobear:


...and the irony is, the healthcare overhaul wouldn't take affect until 2013.


But the new taxes start RIGHT AWAY of course.....
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Originally posted by fierobear:


...and the irony is, the healthcare overhaul wouldn't take affect until 2013.


Just in time for Obama to push his re-election.

Bleh.
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Originally posted by Bradley Jay:


Just in time for Obama to push his re-election.

Bleh.


In 2013? Isn't the next Presidential election in 2012?

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In 2013? Isn't the next Presidential election in 2012?


Yes, but during the campaign he will say that if he ain't elected the new pres will not know how to implement his great plan properly, and the whole thing will go to pot.
That is Medical Pot for you guys in CA.
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lol

We can only hope the next president wont know how to implement his plans.
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Originally posted by NickD3.4:

lol

We can only hope the next president wont know how to implement his plans.


We can only hope the next president actually gives a damn. Oh, wait...here's one!

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www.kansascity.com/news/bre...s/story/1489210.html

This guy was from Manhattan, KS, (near Fort Riley) where I am stationed at.

He was 25 years old.

A soldier from Manhattan is among the latest casualties in Afghanistan.

The Department of Defense announced Sunday that Sgt. Aaron M. Smith was one of two Fort Bragg, N.C., soldiers killed Friday in the Wardak province.

Military spokesman Lt. Col. Paul Swiergosz says initial reports indicate that the person who fired upon the soldiers was an Afghan policeman on patrol with U.S. soldiers. But the case remains under investigation.

The 25-year-old Smith was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 87th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Brigade Combat Team, 10th Mountain Division (Light Infantry).

Also killed was Pfc. Brandon A. Owens. The 21-year-old from Memphis, Tenn., was assigned to the 118th Military Police Company, 503rd Military Police Battalion, 16th Military Police Brigade, XVIII Airborne Corps.


The fact is, until the current pres got in office, I was not political at all. However the current regime has woke me up so to say. His incompetence with everything related to running this country just astounds me....

Im so ***** off right ******* now it aint even funny. (I do hope the censor filter gets this...)
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Originally posted by htexans1:
The fact is, until the current pres got in office, I was not political at all. However the current regime has woke me up so to say.


Obama has done something that no other Democrat has done yet...woken up the conservatives, the every day people types. They're pissed off and they're protesting - most for the first time in their lives. I really don't think he has any idea what he's done, the sleeping giant he's awoken.

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