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United Airlines breaks $3500 Taylor Guitar, refuses to do anything (Video) by Synthesis
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Report this Post07-08-2009 09:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SynthesisSend a Private Message to SynthesisDirect Link to This Post
I was impressed with the music.

In the spring of 2008, Sons of Maxwell were traveling to Nebraska for a one-week tour and my Taylor guitar was witnessed being thrown by United Airlines baggage handlers in Chicago. I discovered later that the $3500 guitar was severely damaged. They didnt deny the experience occurred but for nine months the various people I communicated with put the responsibility for dealing with the damage on everyone other than themselves and finally said they would do nothing to compensate me for my loss. So I promised the last person to finally say no to compensation (Ms. Irlweg) that I would write and produce three songs about my experience with United Airlines and make videos for each to be viewed online by anyone in the world. United: Song 1 is the first of those songs. United: Song 2 has been written and video production is underway. United: Song 3 is coming. I promise.



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Report this Post07-08-2009 10:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for twofatguysSend a Private Message to twofatguysDirect Link to This Post
Now I got that song stuck in my head.

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Report this Post07-08-2009 10:48 AM Click Here to See the Profile for NEPTUNESend a Private Message to NEPTUNEDirect Link to This Post
WOWWW!!
Good song, dood.
I just gave them a thumbsup on Youtube.
I'm copying the video to lots of forums and some human people, as well.
Guitars are magic things, and breaking one is WAY past wrong.

Did Mike Nesmith have a son?
I think we just saw him.
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Report this Post07-08-2009 10:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WolfhoundClick Here to visit Wolfhound's HomePageSend a Private Message to WolfhoundDirect Link to This Post
Disregard for passenger property is nothing new. Atlanta security resorts to outright theft.
Having said that the song is well done. Enjoyed it, You guys are quite talented.
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Report this Post07-08-2009 10:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SynthesisSend a Private Message to SynthesisDirect Link to This Post
Wait: It isn't me... LOL I just found it. But I do appreciate the +.

I wish I could play guitar like that still, but due to a hand injury many years back, I can't play chords any more.

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Wow, so sorry to hear about them trying to silence the music.

Great song and IMO the video looks really really good. I wish that I had half the talent to play as its something that I have always wanted to learn.

I look forward to the other 2 videos for sure and hope that this might get them to finally take care of their obligations.

--Allen

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Report this Post07-08-2009 11:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for twofatguysSend a Private Message to twofatguysDirect Link to This Post
 
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I can't play chords any more.


No, of course you can't play chords silly, Why would anyone want to play a line segment joining two points on a curve?

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Report this Post07-08-2009 11:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for blakeinspaceSend a Private Message to blakeinspaceDirect Link to This Post
link to the story did not work, but the song was pretty good...

This coming from a person who loathes C&W...
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Report this Post07-08-2009 11:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Doug85GTSend a Private Message to Doug85GTDirect Link to This Post
Good song. I liked it.

Here is a link that says that United is making amends with the band:

http://www.gadling.com/2009...hose-guitars-were-b/
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Report this Post07-08-2009 12:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SynthesisSend a Private Message to SynthesisDirect Link to This Post
LATimes has a great article on it as well.


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Smashed guitar, YouTube song — United is listening now

Here, without rhythm, harmony or rhyme, is Dave Carroll’s problem: Last year, while he was flying from Nova Scotia to Nebraska on United Airlines, somebody broke his $3,500 guitar.

Big deal, you’re thinking. Who has time to keep track of all the things United breaks? (See bottom of story for some statistics, which suggest that several other airlines are worse.)

But Carroll and his band, Sons of Maxwell, have told their tale with rhythm, harmony, rhyme, not to mention some wicked humor, and their four-minute, 37-second complaint, “United Breaks Guitars,” above, is racking up views on YouTube.

Before we tell you what United has to say about all this, here’s a quick version of Carroll’s saga, as distilled from his website. (Messages to Carroll’s home phone and e-mail address went unanswered Tuesday night.):

In spring 2008, Carroll and company headed from Halifax, Nova Scotia, to Omaha, by way of (shudder now, frequent fliers) Chicago. Just after landing at O’Hare airport, says Carroll, one of his bandmates and another passenger looked out their windows and saw baggage handlers heaving around guitars with wanton disregard.

Carroll says he complained immediately to three flight attendants, but was met with indifference. Some time after arrival in Nebraska, Carroll says, he discovered that, sure enough, the base of his 710 Taylor acoustic guitar had been smashed.

But he had gigs to play, so he found a way to do that. As Carroll acknowledges, he didn’t attempt to complain again until beginning his return flight a week later.

Over the following days, weeks and months, Carroll made many phone calls to United representatives in Chicago and (who didn’t see this coming?) India, but basically he says United did nothing for him.

Meanwhile, Carroll spent $1,200 getting the guitar repaired “to a state that it plays well but has lost much of what made it special.”

The capping blow, Carroll says, was an e-mail from a Ms. Irlweg, who denied his claim for compensation because he didn’t complain in the right place, or at the right time. The airline wouldn’t even give him $1,200 in travel vouchers, Carroll contends.

So he vowed a sort of musical revenge - not one protest song, not two, but three, with a video for each, all to be posted on the Web. Carroll says he told Ms. Irlweg all about it, but got the usual response.

The video was posted on July 6. In its first 23 hours, “United Breaks Guitars” had drawn 461 comments on YouTube, most of them maligning the airline, and one of them hearkening back to Tom Paxton and his tune of aerial guitar trouble, “Thank you, Republic Airlines.” (The viewer counter appeared to be stuck at 3,441, but the video quickly went viral, with the Consumerist showing more than 24,000 views by Tuesday night.)

Among the comments: “Revenge is a dish best served with country accompaniment.”

So what does United have to say about the song?

“This has struck a chord with us, and we’ve contacted him directly to make it right,” said Robin Urbanski, a spokeswoman for United. (Urbanski also said she “loved” the video.)

Urbanski said a phone meeting had been scheduled for Wednesday, and that before the airline decides exactly what to do for Carroll, “we need to have that conversation with him directly.”

Meanwhile, Carroll’s website says he’s written and recorded the second song, with video to follow soon. And he has all sorts of other plans for a third song, and various tactics to achieve a million Web hits, which he believes will give some sense of revenge.

In fact, he writes, “I should thank United…. If my guitar had to be smashed due to extreme negligence I’m glad it was you that did it.”

By the way: In the U.S. Department of Transportation’s tally of lost, damaged, delayed or pilfered baggage in April 2009, United ranked 10th among 19 carriers, with 13,517 “baggage reports” among 4.03 million passengers.

— Christopher Reynolds, Los Angeles Times staff writer
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aw man, thats gotta royally suck. ive got many guitars of my own, and if even the cheapest one( approx. $200) was to get broken, so would every employee of the airport. goodbye taylor guitar, rest in peace
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aw man, thats gotta royally suck. ive got many guitars of my own, and if even the cheapest one( approx. $200) was to get broken, so would every employee of the airport. goodbye taylor guitar, rest in peace
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Hehe. Great liner, "United Breaks Guitars." They should play this video on CMT cause it's really good and funny.
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aw man, thats gotta royally suck. ive got many guitars of my own, and if even the cheapest one( approx. $200) was to get broken, so would every employee of the airport. goodbye taylor guitar, rest in peace


I think they got the guitar fixed. it was a broken neck. Still ruined the value though.

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I think they got the guitar fixed. it was a broken neck. Still ruined the value though.

Brad

The end of the acoustic chamber was smashed in.
The repair was done, but it does not sound the same.
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Story sounds fishy....who would tour Nebraska for a week?!?!??!
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This just made my local Fox news!
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Story sounds fishy....who would tour Nebraska for a week?!?!??!

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Urbanski said a phone meeting had been scheduled for Wednesday, and that before the airline decides exactly what to do for Carroll, “we need to have that conversation with him directly.”

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It's Thursday. Any news?
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After reading the Chicago Tribune story today, I would assume that United ponied up the money, or another guitar.... And, they asked to use the video inside of United as a training guide to assist their employees.

Canadian musician Dave Carroll could have sung the blues after United Airlines workers at O'Hare smashed his guitar and the carrier refused to pick up the $1,200 cost to repair it.

Instead, he turned the experience into a witty ditty, "United Breaks Guitars," and scored an instant hit on YouTube.com, his first in a 16-year career. Posted on Monday, the video had been viewed 137,896 times as of mid-day Wednesday.

Revenge for this obscure musician and his band, it appears, was best served with a smile and a country twang.

"This struck a chord with us," said Robin Urbanski, spokeswoman for Chicago-based United. "We are in conversation with one another to make what happened right."

Carroll and other members of Sons of Maxwell, his Halifax-based band, were changing planes at O'Hare on March 31, 2008, when they heard another passenger exclaim, "My God, they're throwing guitars out there," Carroll said.

They glanced out the window in time to see a ground worker toss a bass guitar, which survived intact. But Carroll discovered when he arrived in Omaha late that evening that the base of his $3,500 Taylor guitar had been smashed.

The guitar was insured, covering the costs of a replacement. But Carroll also spent $1,200 to repair the damaged instrument for sentimental reasons -- he had composed some of his favorite songs in it.

Over the next nine months, Carroll spent hours reasoning with United baggage agents in Chicago and New York and customer service representatives in India to pay for the damaged instrument. But to no avail.

Complicating matters: He didn't file a claim within 24 hours, as United requires. Carroll said no United agents had been on duty when his plane landed in Omaha around midnight. He left early the next morning for a tour of Nebraska and didn't report the damage until he returned to the Omaha airport a week later.

When United rejected his final offer to settle the costs with $1,200 in flight vouchers, Carroll said his anger had long since passed. Rather than fume, he decided to write three songs about United -- the first two of which have now been composed.

"This is what I do for a living," he said. "Why don't I do this for fun?"

He's been pleasantly surprised to see the video take off. In fact, he's even won praise from United's Urbanski, who said the parody was "excellent."

Rob Bradford, managing director of customer solutions at United, called Carroll Wednesday to apologize for the foul-up and to ask if the carrier could use the video internally to help change its culture.

"It could be used to improve the way passengers are treated around the world," Carroll said.
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Chicago news is loving this story since it happened at O'Hare. Seen it on Fox and on WGN today they had the guy on the phone.
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UK is 15 days
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/...alue-plummet-10.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/...dges-more-songs.html

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol...-gets-follow-up.html

This one 7/10
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8145230.stm


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Story sounds fishy....who would tour Nebraska for a week?!?!??!


"General Chang of star trek6 fame voice:"

Remember Bruce Springsteen made an album named Nebraska.
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I saw last night on the news that United Airlines lost the dude's luggage and he now going to write another embarrassing song about United, hehe.
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Originally posted by twofatguys:

I think they got the guitar fixed. it was a broken neck. Still ruined the value though.

Brad


Pretty sure I would have trouble playing with a broken neck.

 
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. . . Why would anyone want to play a line segment joining two points on a curve?

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Hmmmmm, I thought that is what a solo was, Brad.
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Video 2 is out...
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