That puts the Dems at 60 in the Senate once Franken finally gets seated.

Discuss.

Here's the Democrat's chance to do anything their heart desires.
For good or bad, the future is now in Democrat hands. Don't screw the pooch.

Well, I'm sure that Todd and several others are going to have a stroke. I did vote Democratic this time, but don't particularly think this is a good thing. It kills any filibuster opportunity the Republicans might have entertained on any issue. Perhaps someone will pay off a Democrat to turn Republican.

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What’s the old saying? "Be careful what you wish for, you may get it"

It’s going to be hard to blame everything on the republicans going forward. Now the Dems have to perform, there are no more excuses.

Should be fun to watch.

quote Originally posted by Bullet: What’s the old saying? "Be careful what you wish for, you may get it" It’s going to be hard to blame everything on the republicans going forward. Now the Dems have to perform, there are no more excuses. Should be fun to watch.

I'm not sure which will be more fun...the absurd crap to come, or the lame excuses the Dems' supports will make. After all...it's ALL on them now. No excuses.

They will continue to blame Bush for anything bad, while trumpeting Obama's brilliance for anyting good.
You don't need a crystal ball to see that coming.

Whenever one party gains absolute power a country is always sooooo much better off.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: They will continue to blame Bush for anything bad, while trumpeting Obama's brilliance for anyting good. You don't need a crystal ball to see that coming.

Have you noticed how, for the last 2 years of Bush's presidency, the media continuously painted a bleak picture on everything? Now, just a few months after the Democrats gain absolute power, and after they double the budget deficit and TRIPLE the national debt, and while the economy is still obviously at or near the bottom, you can read nearly daily "good news" about how things might be getting better. Does the media really think we don't notice?

Though I would like to say it should be about quality not quantity, more concerning is a heavy lop to one side.

Specter said he couldn't give his voters the dominate power in congress.

I thought it was about equal power for your voters but voting for what they want.

And this has any bearing how? Specter has been a RINO for a while now. They keep talking about a filibusterer-proof 60. As isf Specter would have sided with the republicans on anything anyway... At least he's putting a proper label to his voting habits...

Hell, for that matter, there are very few conservatives left. The days of Right and Left have been gone for the better part of a century. We're now solidly in Left and Lefter...

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I just heard him say on TV, he felt HE could not win in the next election. It's all about HIM, not the state citizens. Well perhaps the Republicans are right, that got rid of him.

quote Originally posted by connecticutFIERO: That puts the Dems at 60 in the Senate once Franken finally gets seated. Discuss.

Not much to discuss, really. It is terrible for the country.

They will be even MORE unrestrained than the congression orgy that has been going on. It is going to be approximately a decade long hangover from what these people have been doing. Spector just enables it even more, but he was already voting democratic anyway.

What do the democrats STAND FOR?

Unrestrained spending.
Tax the "rich". Which is a lie. ALL citizens are going to get pounded with increased taxes. Just won't be in the form of income tax.
Loss of individual freedoms. (ironic, isn't it. The "liberal" party creating loss of freedoms)
Lack of individual responsibility
Social engineering


Pretty much every single policy that has been a bad thing for the country in the past is going to be re-run.
For those of you that are blatant socialists, this is just right up your alley.

For those of you that believe in the constitution of the United States, it is a terrible thing.


Shame on Spector. Bait and switch. Although really, he and Snow and others have been socialist, leftist, anti-constitutional liberals all along. So, shame on the republicans in those states for letting them get through the primaries.

quote Originally posted by Phranc: Specter said he couldn't give his voters the dominate power in congress. I thought it was about equal power for your voters but voting for what they want.

Funny you should mention that. From Glenn Beck's email:

**WEASEL ALERT: Fearing a loss from challenger Pat Toomey in the GOP primary campaign, Senator Arlen Specter leaves GOP -- despite just last month saying he wouldn't leave the party because 'balance is important.' "I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate" said Specter. Glenn will have more on this spineless wonder tonight on TV, 5pm on The Fox News Channel.

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OK, Dems, you can have him!

Nothing has change but his party name. Dems have no more power, and Reps have no less. He was a wolf in sheeps clothing. He was, has been, and always will be a Democrat at heart. He is a hack. He saw the writing on the wall. He knows he couldn't win the Republican primary, let alone the election. His true colors showed when he refused to be principled and vote against the spending package. Hopefully a strong republican will come forth, because this State is ripe for the taking. Good ridance Arlen Specter. Don't let the door hit ya, where the good Lord split ya.

Jim

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Other than the fact he'll have a (D) after his name instead of an (R), nothing much has changed. He's been a Democrat for a long time, now it's just official.

edit to add: hopefully the country will make it intact to 2010, because that will be the first real test of how many agree with our current direction.

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I guess we can finally find out what the real Democratic agenda is now that there is no one to stop them. Things may be rough for a couple of years, until the next election, but many will learn a lesson from this.

quote Originally posted by avengador1: I guess we can finally find out what the real Democratic agenda is now that there is no one to stop them. Things may be rough for a couple of years, until the next election, but many will learn a lesson from this.

There never was anyone to stop them. Specter didn't have the balls to stop them. (See porkulus bill) The D at the end of his name changes nothing.

Jim

quote Originally posted by jimbolaya: The D at the end of his name changes nothing. Jim

Except his re-election chances, since he polls very badly with Republican voters in PA. Many were predicting he'd lose the GOP primary.

quote Originally posted by GT86: Other than the fact he'll have a (D) after his name instead of an (R), nothing much has changed. He's been a Democrat for a long time, now it's just official.

Yep, our resident Dems think this is another major victory for them. They don't even realize that it doesn't matter which party you are from, all that matters is how you vote. If he votes with the Dems, he might as well be a Dem.

quote edit to add: hopefully the country will make it intact to 2010, because that will be the first real test of how many agree with our current direction.

They like to talk about polls and popularity...it will be interesting to see just how popular the Dems are in two years. Assuming, of course, we make it there.

If that doesn't qualify as waffling, i don't know what will.

quote Originally posted by GT86: Except his re-election chances, since he polls very badly with Republican voters in PA. Many were predicting he'd lose the GOP primary.

Agreed, but I do think this provides an opportunity for the Reps if they seize the day. Specter could prove to be a liability for the Dems when he gets their nomination. If people could only remember all this, in 2 years.

Jim

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quote Originally posted by jimbolaya: Agreed, but I do think this provides an opportunity for the Reps if they sieze the day. Specter could prove to be a liabilty for the Dems when he gets their nominaton. If people could only remember all this, in 2 years. Jim

There's tremendous opportunity for the GOP, across the board. My hope is that they get a coherent message together, along with some dynamic candidates. Running on the "we're not the Democrats" platform may not be enough, depending on conditions in 2010.

I don't think this thread has nearly as much GOP angst as connecticutFIERO was hoping for.

Discuss.

quote Originally posted by partfiero: Whenever one party gains absolute power a country is always sooooo much better off.

Quoted for justice.

As for Arlen Specter... well, it's already been said.

"I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate" said Specter.


In other words, he finally did enough to get himself voted off the Republican ticket and he doesn't want to be there to face the music. He is a coward and he ran to a party that gladly accepted him. He also commited a fruad on his constituents. They voted for him as a Republican. If the election were held again today, I doubt he would win as a Democrat. His upcoming Republican challenger was going to trounce him.

You've probably all seen this before, but I've been too busy this week to watch the FOX 'news' channel spin on the comments from Steve Schmidt, John McCains former campaign manager:


So how DID Hannity and Oreilley spin this into a win for the conservatives?


Discuss.

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quote Originally posted by Doug85GT: He is a coward and he ran to a party that gladly accepted him.

Gladly accepted him for now. Does anyone really think the Dems would run him for the seat in 2010 and risk him jumping ship on them again when the wind changes direction ? I think we can all see it coming - everyone I know who overspends seems to get really conservative with their money right about when all the bills come. The public at large is no different; they do not see 'the government's' money as 'their' money... until they inevitably start getting the bills.

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As others have stated, the change in party affiliation means little in Mr. Spector's role, he has been voting on the Liberal side of the aisle for as long as I can remember. What I don't understand is why his constituents kept sending him back. I know, he brought home the bacon.

Ron

quote Originally posted by blackrams: As others have stated, the change in party affiliation means little in Mr. Spector's role, he has been voting on the Liberal side of the aisle for as long as I can remember. What I don't understand is why his constituents kept sending him back. I know, he brought home the bacon. Ron

That may be true, but be careful... too much pork might lead to the swine flu

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Here is the thing.

Will another Democrat candidate run against Specter in the primary? I hope one steps up. That would be very fun to watch.

Since Specter knows he will be defeated in the Republican Primary, (the reason he switched has to do with staying in office), what gives that egomaniac the gall to think he will walk right in as a Democrat without opposition.

Quick! The Dems here; start pounding away at your leftist blog sites and get the ball moving on a Democrat candidate to run against Specter.

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