All because of potential engine fires. Read about it here:
http://autos.aol.com/articl...recall%2F20090413001

[This message has been edited by avengador1 (edited 04-13-2009).]

Good thread, but aren't most Fiero owners are not using "models equipped with normally aspirated versions of GM's much-utilized 3800 3.8-liter V6," but rather 3800SC?

its been a known problem, i think it was a service buliton, now they just upgraded it to a recall

So will every one who said they wouldn't buy a Chinese car because of Chinese recalls not buy American cars because of these and the others American recalls?

So if you put a GM engine that likes to catch fire into a Fiero, won't it spontaneously combust?

quote Originally posted by $Rich$: its been a known problem, i think it was a service buliton, now just upgraded it to a recall

X2

The same thing came out for the supercharged ones last year,

And for that reason I call BS, the SC models run quite hot from the factory, and if you use regular unleaded (not premium like your supposed to) they run even hotter.
And if your that stupid, you probably don't have oil leaks repaired, hence the chance of under hood fires.

But the N/A models run much cooler, the chance of them catching fire IMO is no different then ANY car catching fire for the same reason.

So, it looks like rather than fix the oil leak that is the origin of the ignition, they remove the materials around it that might catch fire and spread the initial oil fire?? Why not just cut a couple of brake hoses to prevent hard braking?

quote Originally posted by Phranc: So will every one who said they wouldn't buy a Chinese car because of Chinese recalls not buy American cars because of these and the others American recalls?

No--they will buy German and Japanese.

quote Originally posted by fierofool: So, it looks like rather than fix the oil leak that is the origin of the ignition, they remove the materials around it that might catch fire and spread the initial oil fire?? Why not just cut a couple of brake hoses to prevent hard braking?

The correct fix is to replace the old orange valve cover seals with the improved gray seals. The proper fix would guarantee bankruptcy for GM. The "remove spark plug wire retention channel and let it drip" is the business as usual GM fix. Either way they lose.

I just cannot believe that I'm the first to think of this often heard comment:

"Those things catch on fire all the time, don't they?"



whoops.
Edited to add: Props to Formula88 for beating me to the punch (line).

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[This message has been edited by NEPTUNE (edited 04-13-2009).]

They arent getting my 3800SC back for any reason. I'll take my chances.

I AM SO GLAD WE GOT BACK TO THE NORMAL 2.8
In both fieros

quote Originally posted by Formula88: So if you put a GM engine that likes to catch fire into a Fiero, won't it spontaneously combust?

someone had to say it

quote Originally posted by $Rich$: its been a known problem, i think it was a service buliton, now they just upgraded it to a recall

They can take my 3. 8 when they pry it from my cold, dead fangers.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: They can take my 3. 8 when they pry it from my cold, dead fangers.

You have a 3.8?

Just remember, the recall will not impact any Fiero installs. GM will tell you that you are on your own.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: So if you put a GM engine that likes to catch fire into a Fiero, won't it spontaneously combust?

as long as it is only a 84 fiero. who knows what would really happen. maybe it would cause the collapse of the universe.

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If you can't fix it with a hammer, you've got an electrical problem
Fiero's are people too. We pay just as much attention to them, if not more than our loved ones
screw paying those bastards. im not going to become rich by paying for things.....

quote Originally posted by fierofool: So, it looks like rather than fix the oil leak that is the origin of the ignition, they remove the materials around it that might catch fire and spread the initial oil fire?? Why not just cut a couple of brake hoses to prevent hard braking?

I did not go into the details about the N/a Recall, but the SC recall DID include new valve cover gaskets.

Again, I am skeptical about the legitimacy of this "problem" it took running low octane fuel (or a bad batch of fuel) on a non intercooled, roots SC'd car (LOTS OF HEAT) to cause the manifold to be actually hot enough to catch fire. The N/A motors just don't make the heat!

[This message has been edited by 4-mulaGT (edited 04-14-2009).]

Good Thread John. That engine was awarded Ward's 10 Best Engines. Glad I got a series II SC. But I have not heard any issues with the normally aspirated 3800.

quote Originally posted by JimmyS: They arent getting my 3800SC back for any reason. I'll take my chances.

JimmyS your engine is not the normally aspirated 3800... right?

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quote Originally posted by FierociousGT: JimmyS your engine is not the normally aspirated 3800... right?

No, Mines is a series 2 3800SC

I also had both manifolds and crossover pipe ceramic coated so i'm not worried about them getting hot enough to ignite oil of some should drip.

quote Originally posted by NEPTUNE: They can take my 3. 8 when they pry it from my cold, dead fangers.

Don't you mean, "crispy burnt fingers"???

Joe