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midengine car made in mexico by nibotolu
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Mastretta MXT











i think this could be the new fiero

and heres the link to the page
www.mastrettadesign.com/
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Report this Post11-24-2007 11:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.PBodyClick Here to visit Mr.PBody's HomePageSend a Private Message to Mr.PBodyDirect Link to This Post
Mexican Labor + Free Trade = possibly cheap car. I couldn't find a price, thats a pretty bad ass little car. 200hp from a 2.3L should scoot.


edit: yep its mexican, airbag is optional

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Report this Post11-24-2007 11:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for nibotoluSend a Private Message to nibotoluDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Mr.PBody:


edit: yep its mexican, airbag is optional




lol

and not its not gonna be cheap 55 k
its going to be in the line of the Lotus Elise.

weell thats what they said


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Report this Post11-24-2007 11:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.PBodyClick Here to visit Mr.PBody's HomePageSend a Private Message to Mr.PBodyDirect Link to This Post
Lotus Elise = $48,000 (here) and 0-60 in 4.8 seconds
That Thing = $55,000 and 0-60 in 6-7 seconds...

If it was like $25,000 it would be perfect.
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Report this Post11-24-2007 11:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for nibotoluSend a Private Message to nibotoluDirect Link to This Post
im agree its just to expensive

maybe 30 k would be ok, but 55k cmon
anyways i like it

http://www.youtube.com/watc...XwBE&feature=related

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Report this Post11-24-2007 11:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Scott-WaClick Here to visit Scott-Wa's HomePageSend a Private Message to Scott-WaDirect Link to This Post
And now for the mildly racist jokes...

"But there isn't a picture of a bull on the door!"

Maybe that only applies to the trucks

How about...

How many switches?

Where's the 13" rims with whitewalls?

What? No 100 spokes?

Just kidding... a rather large chuck of American (as in historically US) cars are made in Mexico.
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Report this Post11-25-2007 12:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
Far too expensive, anyone with a brain will buy an Elise instead of that thing. If it were closer to $20k it would have a decent chance, at least. Mexican labor isn't as cheap as it used to be, and hopefully chinese labor follows suit (though I doubt it as long as the communists are in power).
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Report this Post11-25-2007 12:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for IEatRiceSend a Private Message to IEatRiceDirect Link to This Post
If you buy that car its recommended that you learn to say "Will you help me push my car?" in spanish.

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Originally posted by RWDPLZ:

Far too expensive, anyone with a brain will buy an Elise instead of that thing. If it were closer to $20k it would have a decent chance, at least. Mexican labor isn't as cheap as it used to be, and hopefully chinese labor follows suit (though I doubt it as long as the communists are in power).



When all your stuff gets more expensive you'll regret that wish
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Report this Post11-25-2007 01:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for CaliforniaSpeeder9Click Here to visit CaliforniaSpeeder9's HomePageSend a Private Message to CaliforniaSpeeder9Direct Link to This Post
Looks like a smart roadster with a body kit. Almost looks good...almost

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I can't conclude if its ugly or not.
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Report this Post11-25-2007 08:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for avengador1Send a Private Message to avengador1Direct Link to This Post
I've seen some weird cars in Mexico. When I lived there in the early '70s there was a shop that was stretching and widening Volkswagen Beetles to style them to look like a Porsche Carrera. They were pretty wild looking and were even fast.
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Interesting.
Did you check the Gallery? They've done some interesting stuff. This certainly isn't their first endeavor.

With 200 HP and 2200 lbs (1000Kg), it ought to do better than 6-7 seconds to 60.

I still think it's overpriced at $55K, though.
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Looks a little like a smart . Especially the front end.
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Report this Post11-25-2007 11:24 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mr.PBodyClick Here to visit Mr.PBody's HomePageSend a Private Message to Mr.PBodyDirect Link to This Post
Well they are only making 150 units a year, thats why its $55,000 if they made more like a thousand a year, after a few years or so they could probably drop down into the $30,000 bracket, maybe $20,000. If it was a mid $20,000 car I'd be all over that as my next car, I love my Fieros but wouldn't mind something more modern for the day to day.
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Report this Post11-25-2007 11:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofoolClick Here to visit fierofool's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierofoolDirect Link to This Post
I noted in one of the sketches that it has a 2000cc VW Golf engine and produces 190hp with a turbo. But still too expensive.
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Originally posted by avengador1:

I've seen some weird cars in Mexico. When I lived there in the early '70s there was a shop that was stretching and widening Volkswagen Beetles to style them to look like a Porsche Carrera. They were pretty wild looking and were even fast.


here are some of those, built in a vw chasis this kits cost US$1,500 for you to build them.



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Report this Post05-10-2008 02:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 1984fieroSend a Private Message to 1984fieroDirect Link to This Post
I really like the ones above id like to buy something like that for one of my VW's but cant find anywhere to buy them. anybody know?
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Go into the link on the first post. Once in English, click on Gallery. Click on the picture of the car you are looking for.
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Looks like they ran out of money or ideas and just chopped the back end off square. Never was a big fan of that look. Or the single exhaust.

But, I have long wondered why a nation with so many skilled workers, & such a large amt of natural resources--didn't become a major auto manufactorer. With a relatively inexpensive, quality vehicle line, Mexico could corner the North American market and undercut the heck out of Asian and European imports, due to the close proximity to the end market.
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Originally posted by maryjane:
But, I have long wondered why a nation with so many skilled workers, & such a large amt of natural resources--didn't become a major auto manufactorer. With a relatively inexpensive, quality vehicle line, Mexico could corner the North American market and undercut the heck out of Asian and European imports, due to the close proximity to the end market.


One word, governmentcorruption . Counts as one word right?

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One word, governmentcorruption . Counts as one word right?

Brad


Must have imported it from their neighbor to the north.

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Originally posted by maryjane:


Must have imported it from their neighbor to the north.


We teach by example LOL

Man , 24+ hours up, I need sleep.

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Originally posted by twofatguys:


One word, governmentcorruption . Counts as one word right?

Brad


whats that ''governmentcorruption'' , ''corruption'' we dont know the meaning of those words
here in Mexico LOL
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With only 150 produced per year they wont be nearly as populous as Fieros.

Besides, we dont really want a strong Mexican auto industry do we? reverse immigration would ruin California.
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When I lived in Mexico, Ford and GM had big factories right in the city. I bet there are even more manufacturers there now, but I bet they only make parts or components, not entire vehicles.
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Originally posted by cliffw:

Go into the link on the first post. Once in English, click on Gallery. Click on the picture of the car you are looking for.


i see they have the speedster but what about the silver one at the top of the post?
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Originally posted by 1984fiero:


i see they have the speedster but what about the silver one at the top of the post?



the info is in this page

http://articulo.mercadolibr....mx/MLM-20837665-_JM

20,000 pesos


what you guys think about this turn key for 120,000 pesos, 10,000 dlls more or less, i think is cool and cheap

http://articulo.mercadolibr...ardo-convertible-_JM
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Originally posted by nibotolu:
....what you guys think about this turn key for 120,000 pesos, 10,000 dlls more or less, i think is cool and cheap

Looks good, price seems good. What engine/tranny combo ?
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Originally posted by cliffw:

Looks good, price seems good. What engine/tranny combo ?


i dont know any spanish but im pretty sure its a air cooled VW / 4 spd it says mounted on a 1995 so it probably has fuel injected 1600

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I was going to say.. seems as if all their cars are late model VW bug based. So I'd pretty much guess the same with the one at the top. Side glass, windshield, and A pillars all look about the same. That could explain the lack of serious HP. Kinda cool but too many other Exotic ""kit"" cars out there now to pick from. like the GTM supercar
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Originally posted by 1984fiero:


i dont know any spanish but im pretty sure its a air cooled VW / 4 spd it says mounted on a 1995 so it probably has fuel injected 1600



thats correct.
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I wonder how much work it would take to assemble one i have the perfect car for one of those
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