I couldn't believe it when I read it. I'm hoping a judge will throw it out. I'm thinking that the officer(s) should be punished though. Shouldn't have left her there. Keys or no keys. Should've hauled her in really. Sadly, she'll probably win the case.
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What is it with people always blaming someone else.
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First, the officer gave her a citation for being under age and drinking. if she wasn't actually drinking and driving (keys in ignition) when what more could the cop do? you can't arrest somebody for "what they might do". you can't arrest somebody for bank robbery just because they are sitting outside a bank?
Second she lied to the cop about the keys. she got in a wreck cuase she was 1. underage 2. drunk 3.lied to cop. i hope they throw the case out and she loses her license for a decade.
people need to learn a little personal responsiblity.
They should string the lawyer who took the case up by the neck. The whole mentallity of "I'll smack you in the face but it's your fault because you didn't duck" crap has got to stop in my opinion. But seeing how this kind of thing usually goes, she'll get a couple hundred thousand dollars as her reward for drinking and driving under age, destruction of private property, and public endangerment. Hell, why doesn't everyone go out and do it? After all, 'twould seem that we reward the criminals and punish the victoms.
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Posts: 5907 From: Grain Valley, MO Registered: May 2005
what really pisses me off...if the cops had arrested her she'd be suing for false arrest. its a lose/lose situation for the police.
Yup, and had they gone over the car and her with a fine-toothed comb to make sure she wasn't hiding a set of keys, they would be sued for illegal search and seizure I'm sure. I hope that, whomever the property belongs to that she ran into, sues the crap out of her. Now that I think of it, that's probably what's happening. That person is suing her for the damage to their property and she needs money to pay it off. That, and she probably thinks that if she can prove it wasn't her fault, those people will have to drop their suit.
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thats whats freakin F-ed up peaple sueing other ppl.. such child play.. its rediculous...and stupid... shouldnt have been drinking in the first place and its your own dam resposibility to keep your self safe... "adult" i dunno about that states age of "adult hood" but **** .. "its not my fault i was drinking and F-in off and got hurt" if i was the judge i would laught and tell them to get out of my court room...
Sad to see that was from here in AZ. I took the little poll they have and 69% said they sided with the police. I really hope it gets thrown out. Stuff like that is just stupid.
Sad to see that was from here in AZ. I took the little poll they have and 69% said they sided with the police. I really hope it gets thrown out. Stuff like that is just stupid.
Wow! So 31% of some group sided with her?
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The cop should have stayed with her until the parents showed up. Everyone would have been a winner then. Both parties were negligent in this case. It does`nt excuse either one of them though.
The cop should have stayed with her until the parents showed up. Everyone would have been a winner then. Both parties were negligent in this case. It does`nt excuse either one of them though.
True. But as far as the cop knew, she was just am underage drunk in a car with no keys. I'm sure the cops have better things to do than to babysit drunks that don't appear to be going anywhere.
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The cop should have stayed with her until the parents showed up. Everyone would have been a winner then. Both parties were negligent in this case. It does`nt excuse either one of them though.
As said, cops don't have time to babysit drunks that they have already SEARCHED and whose keys were taken away from them. They should be out getting the drunks that are actually out driving.
As said, cops don't have time to babysit drunks that they have already SEARCHED and whose keys were taken away from them. They should be out getting the drunks that are actually out driving.
Exactly. Using that logic, should the cops babysit all the drunks out in public just to make sure they don't break into a car and hotwire it? She said she didn't have the keys and the cop still asked her to show him the contents of her purse. When he saw that she didn't have any keys, it was logical to assume that she wasn't going anywhere. She admitted that what she did was wrong. But she said the only reason she did it was because the cops didn't stay there with her? C'mon. Hopefully she'll get laughed out of court.
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Don't cops know that drunk underage girls are always going to find a way to get in trouble, even if they don't have keys?
What bugs me is what happened to me.
(I occasionally drive girls back/forth to work), well one day I was there earlier then expected so I reclined my seat and took a nap, only to be woken up by a nightstick banging on my window, and then arrested for loitering. Car parked legally, turned off, keys out of the ignition and sleeping. Guess I was a real threat to society.
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Yup. Being drunk in public is usually ilegal. Especially under age. But it's also usually not enforced. Otherwise, in most college towns, there'd be no one attending class. I say they should reach a nice nifty compromise. The cop gets two weeks suspension for not hauling her in and, in trade, she gets five years plus pay all damages for all the charges against her. Sounds fair to me. Sux you got busted for loitering dude. Cop must've been bored. =\ There are, unfortunately, butthead cops and they end up giving the good ones bad names too.
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