i've seen them before. I've installed smaller versions of those. it's a network cam so your boss can look at everything your doing whenever he/she wants. i know in new york there are laws against those. if the product you work with is expensive then they can get away with it for security purposes only! (again in ny, not sure about your laws) if they try to nail you to the wall for 5 minutes extra on your lunch break and try to fire you there is a privacy act law that'll allow you to sue the hell out of them. ibm got nailed a few times for those.
Edit: i want to install a few all around my Fiero... cool now it can stay here! lol.
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ryan.hess Member
Posts: 20784 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Dec 2002
The ones he got came with an I.P. assigned by the company, then all you need is a password. I think it should be fairly easy for someone smarter than me to get into.
You just need to do like in the movies. Take a photo of you sitting there doing your work and put it in front of the camera so it always sees the same thing. Then ask for a raise since your always there hahaha.
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Posts: 4809 From: Hyde Park, New York Registered: Sep 2006
Those are designed to be used in server rooms, to monitor physical access to sensitive equipment remotely, usualy from remote sites. I suppose you could use them for anything, just not the best for general survalence.
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Posts: 12398 From: The Man from Tallahassee Registered: Aug 2001
Yep. I put my camera phone up to show what it's looking at (sorry I couldn't hold it more still). On the other side of that window is the server room, and there are 3 more of those cameras in there. Sometimes they send us emails when the temperature gets too warm in there (problems with new A/C units).
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86GT3.4DOHC Member
Posts: 10007 From: Marion Ohio Registered: Apr 2004
Ugh wish our server room was that organized, we have 2 racks and 2 shelfs, a mix of everything from P1 to dual - dual core P4's 9 gigs to 1.6 terabytes, novel to windows to unix. Fortunately its all HP, at least we have one point of uniformity. I've only been here 6 months, and the guys before me well...
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Posts: 8410 From: Endwell, NY Registered: Jan 2005
Those types of employer survellance are outlawed in many jurisdictions.
The bottom line is that production is negatively affected when used. The paranoia and poor employee relations which are generated are frankly not what a profitable business needs.
They are a very good incentive for good employees to seek alternate work. IMHO.
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SuperchargedV6 Member
Posts: 1966 From: Hinckley, Oh, US Registered: Jan 2006
Also it is illegal to put one showing a bathroom entrance way becasue by law you can not tell someoone how many times they can go to the bathroom. We had this issue at work. SC
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sostock Member
Posts: 5907 From: Grain Valley, MO Registered: May 2005
A few years ago, there was a manager of a Hooters out here that installed a camera in the girls' restroom and would watch them change, even when he interviewed new girls. Turns out one of the girls he watched was only 16. BIG No No. One of the things they charged him with was using a minor for sexual purposes (or something like that). He's now doing time (true !)
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Posts: 4998 From: puyallup washington Registered: Oct 2001
Yep. I put my camera phone up to show what it's looking at (sorry I couldn't hold it more still). On the other side of that window is the server room, and there are 3 more of those cameras in there. Sometimes they send us emails when the temperature gets too warm in there (problems with new A/C units).
holycrap! so your the guy who finds people exits, out of the matrix, when they need one fast....I always wonderd who neo was yelling at when he was talking on the phone and running from agents
Im installing an additional 22 Netbotz 320's in remote server room locations. We have 3 exsisting Wallbotz 500's with external sensor/camera pods. The **** is slick. I love it.... They monitor video of course, but also a WIDE range of stuff, from temp, humidity to dew point. All to make sure the operational environment of a server room location is the right environment for them and nothing bad going on.
Cheever, you need more monitors... I have to watch 3 times that.
Monitor envy! Last time I saw something like that was when I interviewed at Reliant Energy, or Exxon/Mobile. Worked in rooms like that at GE in Cincinnati.
Ugh wish our server room was that organized, we have 2 racks and 2 shelfs, a mix of everything from P1 to dual - dual core P4's 9 gigs to 1.6 terabytes, novel to windows to unix. Fortunately its all HP, at least we have one point of uniformity. I've only been here 6 months, and the guys before me well...
2 racks? Wow.. i have more then that at my desk
We have about 2000 servers, ( windows servers.. im not counting the san, the tapes, the mainframe, unix boxes... )
I used to work for "Ignorant Business Management" and they have great laptops and mainframes... other then that... steer clear! Very bad management decisions in that place. "Anything that doesn't make sense is done first... if that doesn't work then we'll scrap the project!" I used to build the larger mainframes for them... so i know first hand they are built the best i've seen yet. heavy attention to detail for the mainframes and laptops. overall junk for everything else. we even had dell systems and monitors for out tools.
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Posts: 10007 From: Marion Ohio Registered: Apr 2004
Originally posted by Nurb432: 2 racks? Wow.. i have more then that at my desk
We have about 2000 servers, ( windows servers.. im not counting the san, the tapes, the mainframe, unix boxes... )
But I bet mine are more complex . We have a complete moron for head of IT, has a degree in Psycology (and I find that hard to believe) NO experience in IT, and I wouldnt trust him with a pocket calculator. He started here as a factory prodction worker, got into MIS because he worked on his home computer, and through a series of events and firings, made it to head of IT by default.
Yet he's completely convinced he knows everything in the world, and is not afraid to tell you that, and once he has an idea, thats it, will not listen to anything from anyone about it. Unless its someone above him, two of us tried to explain something to him one day, spent 15 minutes wouldnt even listen to us. I went to his boss, who knows even less about IT and found it perfectly logical. She calls him, word one is "yes maam" and thats about every other phrase throughout the conversation, yes maam, boom done. No need to listen to the experts in the field, the ones with expierence, but get a chance to kiss a$$ and thats it.
We have four DL380 servers here just for our ADP payroll system, with less than 1000 employees, im thinking its a little excessive. Why? becuase no one knew what the heck they were doing when they set it up. You have to cross your fingers anytime you shut down a server, because while you know whats supposed to be on it, god knows what else is there too. Looking for the email server? Dont bother with the one labeled FRX (Front End Exhange) Check the one labeled EDI, (which has nothing to do with email, some kind of data interface for honda) Not to mention we have 3 back end exhange and one front end, with less than 200 computer users... We have a mix from the latest HP to antique Pentium 1 systems, we have Novel, Unix, and Windows... Most of these powerhouse servers are running one application or just a database. Has no one here heard of multi-tasking?
Our WAN connection is a mess of Cisco and some other proprietary hardware I've never even heard of, so I cant get routing working properly with remote locations... Our remote locations are running completely diffrent hardware, both in the network and the servers... One remote location has AD set up properly and running good and secure, ours here is limping allong and the boss refuses to ever delete a user account, no matter how long they've been gone. I still dont understand why they have thier own domain... Building a new plant, which I will actualy be able to design properly from the ground up, and for some inconcievable reason the boss is trying to get a 5-10 Mbps connection there, when all we have is a 3. All traffic goes through us, so whats the point. Not to mention Ive demonstrated that we only use maybe 256k at most with our other locations, and we just need scalable for when we need to kick it up for big file transfers. But why listen to the WAN/Cisco expert, lets just see how much money we can spend. I think our current WAN costs are something like $40,000...
Bottom line, we have 50 servers when we need 3 or 4. I dont think one of those over there is doing anything more than idling all day long...
And DONT get me started on the POS proprietary software we are running here, millions of dollars for the BUGGIEST software I have ever seen in my ENTIRE life... guess who's idea it was to get this software...
*runs out of room screaming and flailing hands in the air*
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Want to talk about buggy software? We are the test bed for a new medical software from Seimmens. Damndest piece of **** software. We have to update it like 4 times a WEEK from all the bugs that are found. Only bright side is we are not paying for it. Then we have some things that will ONLY work with Windows 98, I mean WTF!!!
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Posts: 10007 From: Marion Ohio Registered: Apr 2004
Want to talk about buggy software? We are the test bed for a new medical software from Seimmens. Damndest piece of **** software. We have to update it like 4 times a WEEK from all the bugs that are found. Only bright side is we are not paying for it. Then we have some things that will ONLY work with Windows 98, I mean WTF!!!
I told you not to get me started
We paid a huge amount of money for this software, and we pay tens of thousands in support agreements, and its crap, plain and simple. Its horribly over built, requires a P4 to run, and its nothing more than purchasing and inventory tracking, and best of all, the new version, not compatable with Windows 2000. Of course they didnt know this, not until I tried to install it in the entire company did anyone find this out. Of course they're not going to fix this, no, why would you offer support for the #2 OS in the world when you can just force people to upgrade. Guess who gets to upgrade the OS on all those systems? The un-installer doesnt do anything... at all.. you have to go through the registry and manualy delete the hundreds of entries when it crashes. If you install a new system an accedently put in the wrong server name on the software, BAM! everything goes down. A typo on one insignifigant system takes the whole company down.
They even have "support" forums on the internet just so people can keep this stuff running. I often joke about it. The boss went to a support meeting once, and I said its probably like AA. He walks in there glumly with his head down "Hi, my name is Harry and I use Vantage" *everyone* "Hi Harry!" then they all sit around in a circle and discuss the software like an AA meeting. (Harry not really his name, gotta protect the ignorant, er um, innocent)
I finaly got to asking, the guy before me, stayed here about 8 months, the guy before him, about a year before his heart attack (no joke!!) and a year after. Anyone looking for a great IT person in Northern Columbus / Delaware?
Originally posted by Cheever3000: ...Does anybody know anything about these cameras? They just installed them where I work. One of them is looking over my shoulder right now.
Did I mention how much I love my boss?
Not to hijack your thread, but weren't they trying to put you on a rotating schedule? Anything ever come of that?
On the camera manufacturer website, search for the default port. Angry can port scan while it searches for active IP's - that'll help you find them really quick.
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. We have a complete moron for head of IT, has a degree in Psycology (and I find that hard to believe) NO experience in IT, and I wouldnt trust him with a pocket calculator. He started here as a factory prodction worker, got into MIS because he worked on his home computer, and through a series of events and firings, made it to head of IT by default. 
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