Her "Presidential Commission" has already dug up dirt on Obama claiming he is a "muslim" since he attended an Islamic leaning school 40 years ago. Somehow this Presidential campaign season is going to make us "yearn" for the Florida hanging chad days, cause they'll be nothing compared to 2008.
I'm not a big Hillary fan and I think her chances are slim, but I would still vote for her over just about any Republican right now. Except maybe Chuck Hagel.
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NEPTUNE Member
Posts: 10199 From: Ticlaw FL, and some other places. Registered: Aug 2001
That kinda takes the steam out of Sam Brokebacks announcement that he, too is running for President. The Senator from somewhere very white announced today, two days before the anniversary of Roe v Wade, the one thing he hates more than homosexuals.
The guy is a nut who agrees with with Congressional Democrats opposition to the Iraq war, so there’s a slim chance he might actually win the nomination depending on how these next two years go. The joke writers are keeping their fingers crossed!
Hillary? I liked the old Hillary better. Once people figure out she’s exactly like George W. Bush as far as Iraq and fear-mongering and all terror all the time, her popularity will sink to Bush levels. What we DON'T need is more of the same.
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Posts: 20784 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Dec 2002
Geezs, another 4-yrs with the Clintons again? Is there anybody else to pick from? Hmm...The Reps may need to crack opened that, "Ken Starr" box again? I'm sure once ole' Starr gets a sniff of old Bill's trouser, the bloodhound well track down the round bout' lies even though it'll cost the tax payers big time, hehe.
Let me see''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' So that would make Bill First ???????????? And he would get to decorate the White House? Might be very interesting. Seriously, someone said he would make a great Secretary of State, or Secretary of the Posterior-I meant Interior.
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Posts: 4809 From: Hyde Park, New York Registered: Sep 2006
he wins anything other then a boot in the a$$ i'm moving back to ausi! that's not a joke... he screwed up ny and now he wants to screw the entire country? not with me here... i would vote for sharpton before i would vote that f**ker in. and i can't stand sharptons open racism. but at least sharpton is showing you he screwing you, Guiliani on the other hand is also a racist that will take all the money he can and destroy schools as fast as he can and raise the taxes of every state only to increase his paycheck.... sorry had to vent.... i HATE that guy! as for clinton... it wouldn't be all bad to have a female pres, other then once a month we will all wonder if she's going to push the button.
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Posts: 3426 From: York, England, U.K. Living in Ohio Registered: May 2006
I'd vote for her. Beats any republican they can come up with and I'm certainaly not voting for Obama. Except for the sex thing that the republicans dug up on Bill the Clinton's did all right IMHO. Bill will go down in history as a great president. He did a lot of good for this country. BTW I did vote independant on both of those elections I think Perot would have made an interesting President. Bush on the other hand has put this country to shame IMHO.
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Posts: 1637 From: Newark, California Registered: Jan 2006
as much as it pains me to say it, i'll probably end up voting democrat... but not for hillary, of course. probably Obama if he makes it, he seems like a fairly smart feller, granted i havent done much research. if by some bizarre unfortunate series of events hillary is elected, you will see the end of the united states as we know it. mark my words.
and NO, its not because shes female, its because she's hillary.
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Jermz238 Member
Posts: 1637 From: Newark, California Registered: Jan 2006
he wins anything other then a boot in the a$$ i'm moving back to ausi! that's not a joke... he screwed up ny and now he wants to screw the entire country? not with me here... i would vote for sharpton before i would vote that f**ker in. and i can't stand sharptons open racism. but at least sharpton is showing you he screwing you, Guiliani on the other hand is also a racist that will take all the money he can and destroy schools as fast as he can and raise the taxes of every state only to increase his paycheck.... sorry had to vent.... i HATE that guy! as for clinton... it wouldn't be all bad to have a female pres, other then once a month we will all wonder if she's going to push the button.
i'd worry more about hillary having any opposition...taken care of. i'll admit shes fairly intelligent, but the wrong kind of smart, like hitler smart. bill was a dumb boob, sure he did this or that with whoever, but really he was quite harmless, and was likeable (like most dumb boobs). the fact that anyone would consider voting for her scares me to death
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Posts: 20770 From: Central Florida Registered: Dec 2001
I knew she would run in '08. If the search function is up to it, you might actually find some of my statements to that effect from before the '04 election.
Oh, BTW there is a reason why I call her "Hitlery". And it isn't because of her moustache.
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Posts: 8410 From: Endwell, NY Registered: Jan 2005
Nothing against women.. I'd vote for Condi any day.
As for Hillary.. all I have to say is Rose law firm and failed attempt at "universal health"
A. Shredded documents in the whitehouse after saying they couldnt be found. B. Any general look at Germany or France. Insane tax rules. But just like DE, FR, and the UK we'll make more money.. but half of it will go out in taxes to support another gov't plan to "help" someone.
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Posts: 1637 From: Newark, California Registered: Jan 2006
I hereby claim my property a soverign nation and myself lone dictator. Where can I go to sign up for US aid since I have no natural resources ? Ill even sign a treaty not to develop nulear weapons or attack adjoining nations withou provacation. Can I get an unbalanced trade agreement too ?
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Posts: 4809 From: Hyde Park, New York Registered: Sep 2006
hear me out before anybody gets bent over this... first off i'm an anti-racist. point one out and i will gladly slug the ba$tard for ya. good with that said... i believe we should take some really old black male and put him as president. that's how you would get stuff done... granted most ofthem are racist but they have good reason to be. Things for us white folk will never be the same, sure. but could you imagine how many terrible things this country does every day would be turned around in less then 4 years?
Sam L. Jackson '08
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Posts: 747 From: Oak Ridge MO Registered: Oct 2004
I hereby claim my property a soverign nation and myself lone dictator. Where can I go to sign up for US aid since I have no natural resources ? Ill even sign a treaty not to develop nulear weapons or attack adjoining nations withou provacation. Can I get an unbalanced trade agreement too ?
Quotes From Family Guy - Peter Griffin [Peter forms his own country] Peter: I call it... Petoria. I was going to call it Peterland, but that gay bar by the airport took it.
Conn that ranks right up there with your Lieberman prediction?
Even Hitlery has a better chance than Edwards.
2004 wasn't that long ago, you can't have forgotten already. Obama and Edwards are both dreamers who don't understand that Americans expect a little thing called EXPERIENCE in leadership before you cast your hat into the Presidential ring. Edwards disappears instantly, Obama lasts through the final cut and it comes down to Hitlery vs Obama. Hitlery wins the primary.
Guilianni will not only make it to the end but I think he has a better chance than McCain. It's too early to predict the out come for sure since the type of campaign they run will be key. But Guilianni showed incredible leadership in New York and McCain still doesn't understand that the reason he lost to Bush in the 2000 primary is because the American people can't help but doubt his judgement in times of crisis due to his tortue in Vietnam. If overwhelming military action is needed he might flinch and that is something we CAN'T afford in a Commander in Chief. Rudy can also carry his home state of New York which would mean curtains for ANY Democratic Candidate...end of story. From strictly a strategic standpoint, Rudy has the best chance in the General Election.
Hitlery WILL win the primary as she drifts back to her home, the far left, over the course of the next two years. The flawed primary process will ensure that nothing but Union Bosses and Left Wing School Teachers get to decide the DNC candidate for the rest of America. Given that fact, Hitlery can't possibly lose the primary. But she will get killed in the general election in one of the greatet ass whoopings in the history of Presidential elections.
GREAT news to wake-up to this morning. I feel so much better
Hitlery WILL win the primary as she drifts back to her home, the far left, over the course of the next two years. The flawed primary process will ensure that nothing but Union Bosses and Left Wing School Teachers get to decide the DNC candidate for the rest of America.
i have to say that your consistent frothing at the mouth and absolute villification of anything even remotely "leftist" is becoming less of an irritant to me, and more of a comfort. i know that on just about any relevant issue, i can count on you to thoroughly marginalize yourself.
you just keep it up... we'll toss meat into your cage once in while while we try to actually deal with reality.
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lurker Member
Posts: 12351 From: salisbury nc usa Registered: Feb 2002
Yup, like GWB.. it's almost scary that the guy the DNC put up was so lame he couldnt even beat Bush.
E, Todd is predictable in his leanings, but he's not far off in how and who decide candidates. (it holds for both sides.. special intrests stack the primary process)
Hillary does have a chance if she plays the moderate roll that she's been crafting for the past 4 years. Lots of swing "mommy" voters who will think it a great idea to put a woman in the White House just for the sake of putting a woman in there.
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Posts: 20871 From: Roswell, Georgia Registered: May 2001
Prior to his Presidency he ran an oil company, a baseball team, and was governor for two terms of one of the countries largest states. That is called a resume.
Edwards was a lawyer and a one term Senator who never wrote a single piece of legislation.
Obama still wears diapers.
Any questions??
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Really?
hmm, I'm going to have to change up the act a bit.
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Hillary does have a chance if she plays the moderate roll that she's been crafting for the past 4 years. Lots of swing "mommy" voters who will think it a great idea to put a woman in the White House just for the sake of putting a woman in there.
agreed. and the first point is both a positive and negative with respect to the likelihood of her gaining the candidacy. many democrats (myself included) are not happy with what has been called "triangulation" on her part, seemingly in an effort to find some great middle that she can claim. it may or may not be an effective political strategy, but it also losing her a fan base.
this is one of those instances where my political mind and my idealism clash. i don't like the fact that she has been such an obvious carpetbagger in NY state, but also have to acknowledeg that she's been pretty canny... and maybe that's what it takes.
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Finally_Mine_86_GT Member
Posts: 4809 From: Hyde Park, New York Registered: Sep 2006
Rudy will NOT take ny... alot of people here hate his guts. the only thing he has done while in office here was fatten his walet and everybody here knows that. he has never done anything "good" for NY. anybody who says otherwise should live here for a little while.