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Volume of water. Maths problem need solving. by AusFiero
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Report this Post12-18-2006 05:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AusFieroClick Here to visit AusFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to AusFieroDirect Link to This Post
Ok being 41 now I have had no use for advanced math for a lot of years now and forget most of it. What I need to work out is how many litres are in a small pool the kids have so I can add the chemicals.
The water is 60cm deep and the diameter of the round pool is 330cm.

So what is the equation to work this out?
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Report this Post12-18-2006 06:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AntiKevClick Here to visit AntiKev's HomePageSend a Private Message to AntiKevDirect Link to This Post
Area of the pool is:

A = pi * (diameter ^ 2) / 4

(pi = 3.1415926...) volume is area times height.
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Report this Post12-18-2006 06:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike MardenSend a Private Message to Mike MardenDirect Link to This Post
Actually I think its PI * R squared * height

PI * R squared gives you area

* heigth gives vou volume

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Never saw it divided by four before, but it still works. I always just used pi*R^2. Once you get that, your answer will be in cubic centimeters. One cubic centimeter equals one mililiter. Then just move your decimal point to the left three spaces for your answer. Should be somewhere around 5131.7916 Litres.

Radius: 330/2 = 165cm
R^2 = 165^2 = 27225 cm
Multiply times pi (3.141592654...) and get 85,529.86 square cm
take that and multiply it by the depth (60 cm) and get 5131791.6 cubic centimeters
That also equals 5131791.6 mililiters
Divide by 1000 and get 5131.7916 Litres

Got it? Good. There'll be a test later.

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Report this Post12-18-2006 06:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for topher_timeSend a Private Message to topher_timeDirect Link to This Post
Take the guess work out, input your numbers and hit calculate.

http://www.online-calculators.co.uk/volumetric/cylindervolume.php

I came up with 5,165,018.5 cubic centimeters.

edit you beat me too it

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Ok now class we didn't read the entire equation now did we? He was asking for how many litres. So most of you only get partial credit. No soup for you! One year!

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AntiKev, I've never seen Pi * Dia ^ 2 / 4 before. Works fine, just my daddy always told me to use the fewest steps to get the right answer. As poorly as I did in high school, the simpler the better worked for me.

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Report this Post12-18-2006 07:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for whadeduckSend a Private Message to whadeduckDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by JazzMan:

Pie are square.

James


Psssst. Pie are round. Brownies are square.

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Originally posted by JazzMan:

On a calculator you would enter diameter x = x .7854 = x height to get volume.

James


ummmm, is my calculator broke.... mine don't have an x on it. lol oh wait there it is but I thought that was used to multiply something.

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Originally posted by whadeduck:


Psssst. Pie are round. Brownies are square.



Are these regular brownies or some Boondawg made?

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Originally posted by Mike Marden:

AntiKev, I've never seen Pi * Dia ^ 2 / 4 before. Works fine, just my daddy always told me to use the fewest steps to get the right answer. As poorly as I did in high school, the simpler the better worked for me.



A = Pi * Dia ^ 2 / 4
works because
= Pi * (2 * Rad) ^ 2 / 4
= Pi * 4 * Rad ^ 2 / 4
= Pi * Rad ^ 2

It's actually the same number of steps if you start with diameter instead of radius You either divide the diameter by 2 to get radius, or you just plug the diameter into the equation and divide the result by 4. If you mean using less complicated (aka harder to remember) formulas, then yeah I agree
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Report this Post12-19-2006 10:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
or, RTFM
most pools come with a booklet....with a capacity listing

edit: but anyways - yes - pie are squared
times the depth

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Originally posted by Mike Marden:
AntiKev, I've never seen Pi * Dia ^ 2 / 4 before. Works fine, just my daddy always told me to use the fewest steps to get the right answer. As poorly as I did in high school, the simpler the better worked for me.


He gave me diameter, I gave him the formula with diameter. Quite often in engineering we're given a diameter, and it's just quicker to plug it directly in than to use the extra step and divide by two. It's efficiency not laziness.
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Originally posted by Pyrthian:

but anyways - yes - pie are squared



silly... everyone knows that pie aren't squared. pie are round.

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Report this Post12-19-2006 12:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Marvin McInnisClick Here to visit Marvin McInnis's HomePageSend a Private Message to Marvin McInnisDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by AntiKev:

He gave me diameter, I gave him the formula with diameter. Quite often in engineering we're given a diameter, and it's just quicker to plug it directly in than to use the extra step and divide by two. It's efficiency not laziness.



Exactly! If the problem is stated in terms of diameter, there is less chance of error if it's solved in terms of diameter. (Note that at least one person above got the wrong answer because he plugged the diameter into the formula that requires a radius.)

R ^ 2 = (D / 2) ^ 2 = (D ^ 2) / 4 ... They're all exactly the same, and equally correct. Use whatever works best, is easiest to understand, and is least prone to error.


 
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Originally posted by Pyrthian:

or, RTFM
most pools come with a booklet....with a capacity listing



But what if the "FM" is wrong ... as often happens, especially with products from Asia? If you understand the basic principles, you can always figure it out for yourself.

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Report this Post12-19-2006 12:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 84fiero123Send a Private Message to 84fiero123Direct Link to This Post
I want some of those brownies if Boonie made them!

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OK "Math Nerds" - since you clearly have a grasp on the simpler problems... how about this one (this was a question posed on a local radio show a couple of months back)?

Using whatever resources you can (site them if necessary)... what would be the average depth (in feet), if the Volume of Earth's water covered the entire surface of the earth (basically, assume a smooth sphere with the water filled "equally" all around it)?

Now I didn't "win" anything, but they did use my answer as reference for others... I'll share my details after a couple of other people take some educated stabs at it

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Do we need to include the water in the atmosphere too or just the surface water?

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dunno how deep it is right now... i will throw my guess at 7,000 feet
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Originally posted by whadeduck:

Do we need to include the water in the atmosphere too or just the surface water?



Good Question!

Doesn't make much difference to me... as long as you can site your source. The source I used had a number of other sources listed... all with approximately the same volume shown.

 
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Originally posted by Pyrthian:

dunno how deep it is right now... i will throw my guess at 7,000 feet


You're actually not too far off!

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Report this Post12-20-2006 02:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AusFieroClick Here to visit AusFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to AusFieroDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the answers guys.

I think I jinxed sumemr when I set it up. It has rained since and is cold.
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Originally posted by whadeduck:...around 5131.7916 Litres....
Got it? Good. There'll be a test later.


FWIW, I get 5131.8 liters.
Did I pass?? Ohhh... points deducted fer mizspelt word (Litres)

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