About 20 minutes ago, we had a 2005 Jaguar XJ8 (about $70,000) fall off a lift. Tech (not ME, btw) was lowering the car after finishing a service and the lift leg slipped out from underneath. I was standing in front of the car, I never ran so fast in my life!
I'll get the other pics off my phone when I get home, dead battey. Had to use my phone as I left my camera at home
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How does something like that happen. One side of the lift come down faster than the other or what? And how asleep do you haev to be to not notice something is about to happen? Holy crap that's ugly.
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04:27 PM
Deabionni Member
Posts: 4086 From: Kalkaska, MI Registered: Mar 2004
One side of the lift come down faster than the other or what?
That's exactly what happened. These lifts are older than I am, when he started to lower the lift, the right side dropped a few inches before the left side moved and the pad popped out from under the car. I watched the car teater for about a second before it came down. The owner of the dealership has already called the customer, kinda laughed about it, actually. Wouldn't you if you were getting a new car, free?
So far, it's being blamed on equipment malfunction, whatever. Here are a few more pics after we got it upright, I post the rest after I get my battery recharged.
The Rover with multiple winches.
Down the right side.
Some of the damage, wasn't as bad as we were expecting.
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05:51 PM
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AusFiero Member
Posts: 11513 From: Dapto NSW Australia Registered: Feb 2001
You mean to tell me your shop dropped a guys Jag at 3:50 P.M. today had the car replaced by 6 P.M.? It takes most places longer than that to put on a set of tires. How'd your shop manage to buy and deliver a $70,000 automobile in 2 hours, 10 minutes? That's impressive.
That's exactly what happened. These lifts are older than I am, when he started to lower the lift, the right side dropped a few inches before the left side moved and the pad popped out from under the car. I watched the car teater for about a second before it came down. The owner of the dealership has already called the customer, kinda laughed about it, actually. Wouldn't you if you were getting a new car, free?
look at the lift the arms are in [never set?] how does a single post lower one side faster?
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topher_time Member
Posts: 3231 From: Bailey's Harbor, for now. Registered: Sep 2005
You mean to tell me your shop dropped a guys Jag at 3:50 P.M. today had the car replaced by 6 P.M.? It takes most places longer than that to put on a set of tires. How'd your shop manage to buy and deliver a $70,000 automobile in 2 hours, 10 minutes? That's impressive.
I work at a Jaguar dealership, we've got 10 or so XJ8's sitting on the lot. The pictures are from inside the service shop (built in the early 80's) The owner came down, laughed at the error, and the general manager handed him the keys to a new 06 XJ and said "we'll call you when the paper work is ready to be signed."
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look at the lift the arms are in [never set?] how does a single post lower one side faster?
Twin post in ground lift, they are OLD.
And the car sitting against it.
edited to answer Ray B's question.
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06:42 PM
Scott-Wa Member
Posts: 5392 From: Tacoma, WA, USA Registered: Mar 2002
That's what insurance is for... but I'd be getting that lift repaired/replaced before someone gets killed. That's a much bigger concern.
OSHA and dead mechanics is a lot bigger concern than a dented car.
No arm locks on those lifts are there? I've did the annual safety inspection for the local college I serve on the advisory board and that was one of the things I noted about their twin post in ground lifts. The arms don't have any locks to keep them from swinging out if the load shifts in the air. The school is working on updating the lift arms to ones that lock like any modern twin post.
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topher_time Member
Posts: 3231 From: Bailey's Harbor, for now. Registered: Sep 2005
Not at the moment, but they are CONSIDERING it. Apparently this has happened a couple times before on these lifts, before I started working here. They are building a new dealership, so I do not know if it will ever be fixed.
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08:21 PM
84fiero123 Member
Posts: 29950 From: farmington, maine usa Registered: Oct 2004
Geezs, I'm surprised that the windows didn't pop out and burst? I'm glad it's a Jaguar shop and not a lub shop or something 9although they might have better equipment but bad workers). If I was the guy, I'd be getting a red two seater Jag and call it a day, hehe.
Originally posted by topher_time: I work at a Jaguar dealership, we've got 10 or so XJ8's sitting on the lot. The pictures are from inside the service shop (built in the early 80's) The owner came down, laughed at the error, and the general manager handed him the keys to a new 06 XJ and said "we'll call you when the paper work is ready to be signed."
Going straight to the source, huh? That's reason enough to have your car worked on at a dealership - well, at least if they still make them. I was thinking something like a Tire Kingdom, etc.
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08:52 PM
Scott-Wa Member
Posts: 5392 From: Tacoma, WA, USA Registered: Mar 2002
I believe in ground lifts are now illegal to put in, you can use the ones that are in now but new have to be above ground.
Brings new meaning to the word OOPS.
I don't know where you got that idea. They do have to be sealed, and the newer style in grounds only have about a gallon or less of fluid vs some of those old ones that held ridiculously large amounts.
These are the cassette style in ground lifts Rotary sells... they are very nice because they leave an open floor when they are down, they are completely sealed... but they aren't cheap.
I was just recently installing storage systems at a new Mercedes dealership and I believe they had the in-ground lifts. When the lifts where down, you could drive right across the bay. Pretty fancy place.
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11:08 PM
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Posts: 4842 From: Des Moines IA Registered: Dec 2002
Do you think you could get them to drop one of my cars? With a policy like that, I would have all of my work done there. Good company! Kudos to your G.M.
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Nov 17th, 2006
madcurl Member
Posts: 21401 From: In a Van down by the Kern River Registered: Jul 2003
I wonder what would a Pontiac dealership/shop would do if they'd dropped your LS1 Fiero/choptop/3800SC? Would they call the police and kick you out or would they hand you the keys to a GTO...not!
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Posts: 21510 From: Northern MI Registered: Jun 2002
The only reason it was handled this way is becasue he is a good customer. Bought several cars from us, keeps up the maintenance, a lawyer, friends with the owners, and a respected member of the city.
So I was talking with the tech who dropped it this morning and had I asked to see the security video of the whole thing, normally they shows us these things, training purposes. Apparently nothing was being recorded at that time due to a power outage (3 months ago) and someone had not rebooted the computers. Right. We are in a very unfriendly area of the city with declining property values, those cameras are ALWAYS on.
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Posts: 287 From: Hurst, Tx, USA Registered: Mar 2005
The only reason it was handled this way is becasue he is a good customer. Bought several cars from us, keeps up the maintenance, a lawyer, friends with the owners, and a respected member of the city.
So I was talking with the tech who dropped it this morning and had I asked to see the security video of the whole thing, normally they shows us these things, training purposes. Apparently nothing was being recorded at that time due to a power outage (3 months ago) and someone had not rebooted the computers. Right. We are in a very unfriendly area of the city with declining property values, those cameras are ALWAYS on.
