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Report this Post10-11-2006 01:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ZukClick Here to Email ZukSend a Private Message to ZukDirect Link to This Post
Hi guys Im new to the site so I thought Id introduce myself. Im 17 years old from Sunnybrook Alberta which is just southwest of edmonton. I dont own a fiero but Im looking for one as we speak. Im looking for an 86-88 GT with a 5 speed in good condition preferably not red I dont seem to have much luck with red vehicles lol. Is there any problem areas I should be looking for with these cars? Thanks guys and I look forward to talking with all of you.
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Report this Post10-11-2006 01:40 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 84BillClick Here to visit 84Bill's HomePageSend a Private Message to 84BillDirect Link to This Post
Greetings and welcome.
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Report this Post10-11-2006 02:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 5.0VertClick Here to Email 5.0VertSend a Private Message to 5.0VertDirect Link to This Post
Welcome, As with any car this age, you will run into maintenance issues. Nothing tragic though. The motor isn't that difficult to work on, should be a good learning experience for ya .
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Greetings from Calgary!

Like any 20 year old car there are the obvious maintenance issues. One area of concern is rust. While the body can look great the space frame could be suffering from rust. A couple of good areas to look for rust are under the battery tray, in the trunk behind the carpet and in the rear wheel wells on the top frame rail behind the struts.

Head lights can also be troublesome as the motors sometimes need to be repaired/replaced. also the steering column can become wobbly due to 4 screws that do occasionally come loose. But overall if they are well maintained they can be trouble free jus like any other car. Have a look at the CFOG website for some additional information. Here is the link incase you have never been there: Link

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Report this Post10-11-2006 10:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TammykosClick Here to visit Tammykos's HomePageClick Here to Email TammykosSend a Private Message to TammykosDirect Link to This Post
Zuk,

Welcome to the group. Be patient and you'll find the car you're looking for. In my twenty years of being an original owner, I've been blessed with very little maintenance issues.......knock on wood! Maybe 'cause I baby it and drive it like a little old lady.

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Report this Post10-11-2006 12:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroAngelClick Here to Email FieroAngelSend a Private Message to FieroAngelDirect Link to This Post
If you find a car thats been sitting a while and it wont start its very possible that its just the fuel pump. I bought a few fieros for really cheep that only needed a fuel pump and the owner thought the engine was toast. Also chack for rust. Like stated above look under the trunk carpet and at the frame rail.
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Report this Post10-11-2006 08:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fogglethorpeSend a Private Message to fogglethorpeDirect Link to This Post
Welcome from another non-Fiero owner.

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Welcome Zuk. The main problem area for Fieros is rust. Best way to check one is to peek under the trunk carpet, at the corners. If it's rather rusty there, it's rusty all over. As FieroAngel mentioned, some mechanics mis-diagnose problems and people give them away cheap. I remember one guy mentioning that someone gave one to him and all it needed was some gas...
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Report this Post10-11-2006 08:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsClick Here to Email blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsDirect Link to This Post
I'll only say this once, don't do it. Just say no and walk away from that Fiero. They're addictive and you can't stop with just one. The next thing you know. you'll wake up with another one in you drive or garage! Stop now while you can. BTW, know anywhere I can get another 88 Formula.

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Report this Post10-11-2006 08:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TorqueWenchSend a Private Message to TorqueWenchDirect Link to This Post
all the problems were on the red fieros... or is it just mine?
i keed, mine has very few problems, nothing a few whacks from a small sledge can't correct.

replace the clutch, from your toes, all the way back to the crankshaft. then replace every part all those parts come into contact with,
and another 20-30 just for good measure.
make sure you replace the chrome exhaust shields, as they're good for 5-10hp each,
if the driver's seat bolster doesn't have a frayed tear in it, make sure to create one, as this helps with cabin airflow,
and the little vinyl gear that drives the speedometer sensor. this fails often, corrupting the telemetry to the transtator.
other than that, she should run forever.
good luck!

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Report this Post10-11-2006 09:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for twofatguysClick Here to Email twofatguysSend a Private Message to twofatguysDirect Link to This Post
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Report this Post10-11-2006 10:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for XanthClick Here to visit Xanth's HomePageSend a Private Message to XanthDirect Link to This Post
Welcome aboard, keep looking and you'll find what you want. I got my Formula for $300.

Like mentioned above rust is a serious issue, here's some pics of what you can look for:

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Report this Post10-12-2006 12:48 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ZukClick Here to Email ZukSend a Private Message to ZukDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by blackrams:

I'll only say this once, don't do it. Just say no and walk away from that Fiero. They're addictive and you can't stop with just one. The next thing you know. you'll wake up with another one in you drive or garage! Stop now while you can. BTW, know anywhere I can get another 88 Formula.



Im already obsessed with sleds quads and 67-72 chevy trucks whats one more ridiculously expensive obsession eh.
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Report this Post10-12-2006 02:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarClick Here to Email RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
Again... Welcome to our obsession.
As already mentioned, the main thing to look out for is rust.
Chances are, if the trunk sides are not rusted where the side frame rails are welded on, and the tin plugs in the floor of the passenger compartment are not rusted, that you've probably got a solid car. (Others will correct me if I'm wrong, but that's been my experience.)
The other thing to look out for is frame damage, caused by a collision.

Other than those two things, everything else can be unbolted and replaced.

84s seem to be a bit problematic with their electrical systems (I'll probably catch hell for that one), but if you're looking for a fastback, that won't be an issue.

I know what you mean about red cars. Even though I've never even been stopped, I think red cars are ticket magnets. My first choices for stock Fiero colors would be white and silver. Consequently, mine turned out to be red and black. (The black one has since been repainted.)

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Welcome aboard, keep looking and you'll find what you want. I got my Formula for $300.

Like mentioned above rust is a serious issue, here's some pics of what you can look for:

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That is serious rust damage! I don't think I've got any rust at all
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Report this Post10-12-2006 08:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for under8tedClick Here to Email under8tedSend a Private Message to under8tedDirect Link to This Post
Even if the frame rails ARE somewhat rusted, the car may still be saveable. A set of replacement rails runs about $150 thru the Triad (if you guys out west get that). Its a healtious lot of work to replace them, but not a terribly expensive job. What gets expensive is all the OTHER stuff you get the idea of doing while the car is apart........like, why put that 2.8 back in--as long as its out, it isnt THAT much harder to swap in a (insert insanley large engine of choice here)
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Report this Post10-12-2006 10:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for XanthClick Here to visit Xanth's HomePageSend a Private Message to XanthDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Raydar:

84s seem to be a bit problematic with their electrical systems (I'll probably catch hell for that one), but if you're looking for a fastback, that won't be an issue.



I hated my 84 2M4 for its electrical gremlins, its the same car thats in those rust pics. It was the electronics that drove me to strip it, and resulted in me finding all the rot.

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Report this Post10-12-2006 10:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroGT42Click Here to Email FieroGT42Send a Private Message to FieroGT42Direct Link to This Post
Welcome to the obsession!

My '86 GT has been the nicest driving, most comfortable, most reliable, best handling car I've ever driven. I got it for $1500 after the prev. owner put in new leather seats, and I've put a few times more than that into it so far. I wish it had a 5 speed, but that might change soon

BTW, when looking for rust, the trunk carpeting can easily be pulled back to look for rust. Some of the interior is easy to remove also

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Report this Post10-12-2006 10:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cliffwClick Here to Email cliffwSend a Private Message to cliffwDirect Link to This Post
Welcome Zuk. You are gonna enjoy the Fiero and the Forum.
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Report this Post10-13-2006 01:16 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Red88FFSend a Private Message to Red88FFDirect Link to This Post
Welcome to the addiction! The only thing I would worry about is insurance because of your age.

I absolutely love my Formula 5 speed! It is fast enough to get into trouble stock, though I did port the exhaust manifolds and install a ceramic coated crossover,,,,,, because I had to replace these anyway. The car handles GREAT and I actually was very surprised at the amount of people that notice the car and say "wow nice car!" even though the paint isn't great and I have a tear in both bumper covers, mine is rite me a ticket red. I think it gets pretty dam good gas mileage too, about 20 around town and I think maybe up to 30 on the highway

They are allot of car for the buck! seem very under valued in my opinion, but you almost have to have owned one to know/realize what is a good deal. Good luck and enjoy!

Oh by the way, go for the V6, I drove quite a few before buying the formula and the four banger just did nothing for me

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