I mean, does it really matter which ear each cup goes on?! I can't tell the difference................ Am I supposed to be able too? Why would your left ear hear differently then your right ear?
Not sure I guess it makes sence if the head phones aren't symetrical so it matters what way you put them on . But for the earbud kind and the big coushony ones I see no reason to mark 'em.
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12:20 AM
1986 Fiero GT Member
Posts: 3383 From: Eden, NY USA Registered: Mar 2005
Mostly for congruity, since speakers, and inputs are left and right. IMHO could just as easy be labled something else A B or anything else. The next question is, why does the wire, single wire headphones, attach to the left head/ear phone?
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12:27 AM
Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
Maybe it's just a consumer idiot proof indication. Basically it keeps people from calling the manufacture and asking "which side goes in which ear?" So they mark it to keep people from bugging them.
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
Maybe it's just a consumer idiot proof indication. Basically it keeps people from calling the manufacture and asking "which side goes in which ear?" So they mark it to keep people from bugging them.
Yup. The reason I ask, is, the cord comes out of the left earcup. I do more let turns then right. So I'm always walking over my cord. But I can't bring myself to disobey what's printed on the ear cups!
Yeah, I got ISSUES. Cordless? I don't trust um'.
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Patrick Member
Posts: 38665 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
Boonie, keep in mind that headphones are often used for more than just music. Wouldn't it totally screw your mind if you were watching a Western, and as you viewed the stagecoach go from left to right across the screen, you could HEAR it go from right to left (because you had the headphones on backwards).
No point messing with your head any further, Boonie!
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DtheC Member
Posts: 3395 From: Newton Iowa, USA Registered: Sep 2005
Boonie you missed my point, but not not that it matters. The left earphone will match exactly the sound comming out of the left speaker, on normaly wired sterios. It's a matter of convention, nothing more. Some newer movies, since 1957 have been in sterio, sometimes actors on the right hand side of the screen will have their voice reproduced with more volume on the right speaker. Imagine a jet going from left to right in a movie, would you want the sound to move from right to left as you heard it? How about the guy on some help line tring to figure out why some guy's left speaker doesn't work at all, the left headphone works ok, but the right headphone doesn't work at all.
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Vonov Member
Posts: 3745 From: Nashville,TN,USA Registered: May 2004
Originally posted by Patrick: Wouldn't it totally screw your mind if you were watching a Western, and as you viewed the stagecoach go from left to right across the screen, you could HEAR it go from right to left (because you had the headphones on backwards).
Now that's a good point, I never thought about that!
Hmm, now I'm thinking - if I cross my eyes, it makes me see double. If I cross my ears, would I hear hear double double? What's what's with with all all this this echoing echoing??
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
Originally posted by DtheC: Some newer movies, since 1957 have been in sterio, sometimes actors on the right hand side of the screen will have their voice reproduced with more volume on the right speaker. Imagine a jet going from left to right in a movie, would you want the sound to move from right to left as you heard it?
Ah, I get it!
But still, you are talking about syncing up what you see, with what you hear. How is that so important when listening to music, with your eyes closed?
I guess what I'm saying is, if you are at the Philharmonic (?), does it matter if your eyes are open or closed? Or if the obo's are on the left or right? When they write music, do they write it so that the violins come in & slowly build up, from the right?
I understand movie sounds, and stereo music separation,.................But why does it matter in music, if the drums are in your left ear or your right?
I.E. "This song is better if the guitar solo is in your right ear!"
I guess, when it comes to music, I still don't get why it matters. But I do get the movie thing!
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Imagine if you will, your playing Counter-strike. Your the last one left on your team. Your walking through the tunnel on de_dust. You all of a sudden hear footsteps to your right. You start heading right. You peak around the corner and OMG, YOUR GETTING SHOT FROM THE LEFT, YOU GET BLASTED WITH A HEADSHOT FROM A DEAGLE!!!!!! Then you type things like "holy lag batman", or "OMG HAXZOR", or "sorry, I was AFK", or "what a noob server" and you leave. That's why headphones are marked left and right. Plus if you ever wear a set of Bose Triports backwards, they really start hurting your earloabs!
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
Imagine if you will, your playing Counter-strike. You all of a sudden hear footsteps to your right. You start heading right. You peak around the corner and OMG, YOUR GETTING SHOT FROM THE LEFT
Again, your talking about audio/visual syncrination. I like the reference, though!
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Marvin McInnis Member
Posts: 11599 From: ~ Kansas City, USA Registered: Apr 2002
I guess what I'm saying is, if you are at the Philharmonic (?), does it matter if your eyes are open or closed? Or if the obo's are on the left or right? When they write music, do they write it so that the violins come in & slowly build up, from the right?
In a word, yes! Symphony orchestras are conventionally seated with the upper strings (i.e. violins) to the listener's left, the lower strings (cellos and basses) to the listener's right, the woodwinds behind them (upper winds to the left, lower winds right), with the brass at the back (again, French horns and trumpets left, and trombones and tubas right). Some composers even specify the arrangement of the orchestra to achieve their desired sonic stage. If you listen to a lot of live symphonic performances, reversing your headphones can be really disorienting.
Similarly, many acoustic jazz combos are arranged left/right to achieve a certain desired soundscape.
Left/right makes far less difference with amplified instruments, IMHO.
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Boondawg Member
Posts: 38235 From: Displaced Alaskan Registered: Jun 2003
In a word, yes! Symphony orchestras are conventionally seated with the upper strings (i.e. violins) to the listener's left, the lower strings (cellos and basses) to the listener's right, the woodwinds behind them (upper winds to the left, lower winds right), with the brass at the back (again, French horns and trumpets left, and trombones and tubas right). Some composers even specify the arrangement of the orchestra to achieve their desired sonic stage. If you listen to a lot of live symphonic performances, reversing your headphones can be really disorienting.
Similarly, many acoustic jazz combos are arranged left/right to achieve a certain desired soundscape.
I did not know that! Thanx!
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DtheC Member
Posts: 3395 From: Newton Iowa, USA Registered: Sep 2005
I have noticed that many times. Koss headphones in particular seem to have L and R reversed, so that if you're wearing them "properly" the L sound goes in the R ear, and vice-versa.
And my ears are sensitive enough that I can tell the difference, so long as it's something i've heard before. It just doesn't sound right.
What about people like me that only have one halfway decent ear? I want a plug that makes the right one play all the sound on one headphone, kinda forcing it into mono for my stereo that doesnt have that option, not hearing the left side sux on some songs, and both wont fit in my right ear.
If you have ever been to a symphony orchestra concert, most of the violins are on the left (as you face the stage). The larger brass instruments and woodwinds are on the right. Percussion is in the rear. Maybe the music is recorded to reflect that.
Sorry, I didn't see Marvins post saying the same thing.
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02:15 PM
DRA Member
Posts: 4543 From: Martinez, Ga, USA Registered: Oct 1999
Could have something to do with the left-right balance control on the source, makes it easier to control the balance if you know before you touch the control which is which, this is most likely the only reason they would be labeled. Asking why they are labeled is like asking why the balance control is labeled L - R, just for convienence.
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02:55 PM
rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
Call me Mr Spock, but my thinking says the only reason to mark them left and right is to make it easier for an idiot to adjust the balance controls. Some could be confused if they had to turn/slide toward the right to amplify the left.
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Toddster Member
Posts: 20871 From: Roswell, Georgia Registered: May 2001
I don't know the answer but I can suggest two possible reasons: 1) Your ears are designed inverse to each other so headphones may also be designed to fit one ear better than another.
2) Your brain reacts to different stimuli from the right and the left. This is a fact. As proof,a scientific experiment was done for people with missing limbs. A guy lost his right arm in a car accident. But he had a constant "itch" in his non existant right arm. To solve the problem doctors created a box with a mirror in it. When he put his left arm in he could see the refelction of his "right" arm and watch a nurse scratch it. The itch went away because his vision of the arm being scratched told his brain the itch was resolved. Hence, certain tones might be more easily perceived by one ear than the other. Just a guess.
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Posts: 4543 From: Martinez, Ga, USA Registered: Oct 1999
Lots of good theoretical reasons given here but I think I'll just stick with the theory that it's just to match up with the balance control on the source. Now the other theories may cover why there is a left and right channel on the source. LOL
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Patrick's Dad Member
Posts: 5154 From: Weymouth MA USA Registered: Feb 2000
Headphones have "Left" and "Right" because stereo has differing signals in each channel. This was probably invented primarily for Classical music; to reproduce the "soundstage" one would hear if one was actually at a concert. Just as one would have L & R channels in his or her stereo (and some loudspeakers are "L" or "R"), they are also in the headphone. Even electric and electronic instruments are recorded (often) in a "soundstage," unlike the "techniques" of the 1960's. Whereas James Brown, and his percussion were recorded on the left side, and the horn section on the right (Hard to listen to), a properly engineered recording will give the listener audio cues as to the position of each instrument. A typical rock band may be recorded so that the drums are to the rear center, the bass to the left, the lead guitar to the right and the vocalist either on or just off center. The ears are very sensitive in the way that they work in locating placement. Putting your headhones on correctly ensures proper enjoyment of your music.