North Korea braces for 'all-out war' SEOUL, July 9 (UPI) -- North Korean leader Kim Jong-Il has vowed no compromise in its nuclear program and says he is braced for "all-out war" with the United States.
In his first reported remarks since North Korea test fired seven missiles Wednesday, Kim warned the United States against taking "revenge," South Korea's Yonhap news agency reported Sunday.
Kim called the United States "our arch-enemy," the agency reported, monitoring a broadcast from North Korean state television.
Japan said it would not rule out a preemptive strike if North Korea makes a direct nuclear threat, Japan's NHK television reported.
As tension mounted ahead of a United Nations vote on whether to impose sanctions on Pyongyang, the United States and its allies have intensified a three-year covert operation to cut off all supplies to North Korea's nuclear program, the Times of London reported Sunday.
Few details of the operation are known, the Times said, but two Bush administration officials indicated last year the operation blocked North Korea from getting equipment used to make missile propellant.
I wonder what psycho-Kim's reaction would be if there had been no real reaction from the world. Your whatever-dong missles can't stay up long enough to reach their target. *yawn*
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cccharlie Member
Posts: 2006 From: North Smithfield, RI Registered: Jan 2003
Communism only works when the populace feels threatened by outsiders.
If Kim Jong Il can't convince the North Koreans that the USA is a threat, his regime will collapse just like the USSR collapsed with the thawing of the cold war.
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moleman_in_a_FieroGT Member
Posts: 792 From: Houston, TX, USA Registered: Apr 2006
From what I heard, the missiles can reach the certain parts of the US, but without a payload. That means no warhead, no nuke. Japan's pretty close, though...
But yeah, NK has few allies, whereas Japan and SK do. It'll be a World-vs-North Korea war.
let's see, we've got an undeclared war in afghanistan, we've got another in iraq, there's been all sorts of talk about going into iran by next spring, now there's korea. meanwhile we have a border problem which might involve the national guard. maybe we should finish one before starting another?
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Formula88 Member
Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
Oh and guess what, Bush might get a 3rd term in office if the US goes to war if we goto war with Korea.
Oh really? Care to enlighten us where you heard that bit of propaganda? You do realize he is Constitutionally prevented from serving another term, right? You do realize it would take an ammendment of the Constitution, ratified by 2/3rds of the states to allow it to happen, right?
There's a greater change of Arnold Schwarzenegger getting elected president, and he's ineligible because he's not a U.S. born citizen.
Suspension of the Constitution. How can it happen? Well.... LAW does take precidence over the Constitution so all that is needed is a "crisis" and a passing vote in congress.... Patriot act got a green light in a similar maner and look at all the violations of civil rights as a result..
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Originally posted by Formula88: Oh really? Care to enlighten us where you heard that bit of propaganda? You do realize he is Constitutionally prevented from serving another term, right? You do realize it would take an ammendment of the Constitution, ratified by 2/3rds of the states to allow it to happen, right?
There's a greater change of Arnold Schwarzenegger getting elected president, and he's ineligible because he's not a U.S. born citizen.
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Oh really? Care to enlighten us where you heard that bit of propaganda? You do realize he is Constitutionally prevented from serving another term, right? You do realize it would take an ammendment of the Constitution, ratified by 2/3rds of the states to allow it to happen, right?
There's a greater change of Arnold Schwarzenegger getting elected president, and he's ineligible because he's not a U.S. born citizen.
The 22nd Amendment of the Constitution, 1947, yes but lets just say another type 9/11 happens just when election times come around, then the president doesn't have to transition?, that's what I heard. I take it I'm wrong when it's in the Constitution, my bad.
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Posts: 27079 From: Safe in the Carolinas Registered: Aug 2000
The 22nd Amendment of the Constitution, 1947, yes but lets just say another type 9/11 happens just when election times come around, then the president doesn't have to transition?, that's what I heard.
You heard...where?
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fierogtowner Member
Posts: 1610 From: Tampa, Florida, United States of America Registered: Aug 2005
The 22nd Amendment of the Constitution, 1947, yes but lets just say another type 9/11 happens just when election times come around, then the president doesn't have to transition?, that's what I heard. I take it I'm wrong when it's in the Constitution, my bad.
What did you hear? Where did you hear it? I heard Tom Cruise is the messiah, but that doesn't make it so.
Here's the 22nd Amendment:
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Amendment XXII - Presidential Term Limits. Ratified 2/27/1951
1. No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once. But this Article shall not apply to any person holding the office of President, when this Article was proposed by the Congress, and shall not prevent any person who may be holding the office of President, or acting as President, during the term within which this Article becomes operative from holding the office of President or acting as President during the remainder of such term.
2. This article shall be inoperative unless it shall have been ratified as an amendment to the Constitution by the legislatures of three-fourths of the several States within seven years from the date of its submission to the States by the Congress.
I'm not seeing anything saying the president doesn't have to transition if there's a crisis.
That's not saying a president might not try to take advantage of a crisis to extend his administration, but I believe that would just about cause a revoltution. I would HOPE that would cause people to revolt.
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TM_Fiero Member
Posts: 1076 From: Brookville, PA Registered: Jun 2002
I seriously doubt that Bush is looking to start another war. Kim Jong Il makes these obsurd threats on a weekly basis. The US government has got so used to it, that they don't really put much thought into them anymore. I did a one year tour in Korea a few years ago and IMO there will never be an all out war there. The loss of life on the Korean penninsula will simply be to great.
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From what I heard, the missiles can reach the certain parts of the US, but without a payload. That means no warhead, no nuke. Japan's pretty close, though...
But yeah, NK has few allies, whereas Japan and SK do. It'll be a World-vs-North Korea war.
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