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How Do YOU See The Percieved Infinite? by Boondawg
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If you could travel through space for as long as it takes, what do you think you would find at the end?
Would it just go on, forever & ever?
Would the stars dissappear, leaving only a black void?
Would you go back the pinpoint where everything began?
Would you just hit a wall?
Or would everything just loop back on itself, in one huge circle?

What do you think you would find?

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Originally posted by Boondawg:
Or would everything just loop back on itself, in one huge circle?


yes. You go far enough (fast enough), you'll eventually end up back in the same spot.
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Originally posted by ryan.hess:


yes. You go far enough (fast enough), you'll eventually end up back in the same spot.


Is that the Einstien thing about nearing the speed of light everything curves?
Then eventually back on itself?
Or is it the "folding space" thing?
Or are they the same?

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Originally posted by Boondawg:

If you could travel through space for as long as it takes, what do you think you would find at the end?
Would it just go on, forever & ever?
Would the stars dissappear, leaving only a black void?
Would you go back the pinpoint where everything began?
Would you just hit a wall?
Or would everything just loop back on itself, in one huge circle?

What do you think you would find?



You would travel past a number of galaxies much like our own, until, much father past even those far away systems, you would detect a MASSIVE presence. Eventually, slowing from the speed of light, you would reach the glimmering surface of the pocket of void our "space" is contained inside. You would deploy the deep space examination device and it would conclude that on the other side of this barrier is good old H20. More than is measurable. More of it than has ever been seen before. Better not touch it though, because the surface tension of this barrier is all that is keeping all that water from flooding space. Unfortunately, on your way home, before you can report the most historic finding of our time, the garage door opens, allowing in light from a super star, unfathomably larger than our own. This instantly vaporizes anything and everything we have perceived as our world, as the small droplet of water in which we all once resided dries up. Tom begins to sweep out his garage, oblivious to our plight.

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Originally posted by Will-Martin:

Thus sayeth Tom Cruise.


Aah...the joys of Scientology.
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Tom begins to sweep out his garage, oblivious to our plight.



Looooooove it!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by Boondawg:
Is that the Einstien thing about nearing the speed of light everything curves?
Then eventually back on itself?
Or is it the "folding space" thing?
Or are they the same?


As best I can understand it, the universe is like a balloon. (an inflating balloon at that) We can only see so far, because light takes time to travel, so we can only see so far back in the history of the universe... We're like 2 dimensional paper cutouts on the surface of the balloon. But if you go far enough in one direction, faster than the expansion of the universe (otherwise you'd never get there), you'll get back to where you started.

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PS don't ask me to explain how to add another dimension to that balloon and "us", or what it looks like.
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Originally posted by ryan.hess:

PS don't ask me to explain how to add another dimension to that balloon and "us", or what it looks like.


Can you explain how to add another dimension to that balloon and "us", and what it would look like?
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I'll just draw you a picture.

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Mine is like the one above, but with less blue.

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when you go outside at night and look up, youre seeing infinity. no big mystery, just a very, Very, VERY big, mostly empty place. now and then a galactic cluster, here and there life. expressions like "the edge of the universe" are just metaphors.
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I am the EVER PRESENT NON EXISTANT

<---been drinkin n thinkin
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With complete speculation, I'd say that space goes on for a very good distance. And when you hit the outer rim of this exanding universe the laws of physics do not apply so I think you would never be able to hit this outer rim of space. Infinite space is mind boggling.
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But can you get half way to infinity?
I'd be worring about having enough fuel for the return trip.
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You wouldn't need very much fuel. You'd only need a wormhole generator.
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We know it takes a long long long time to even get to the nearest stars in the Milky Way galaxy, using any chemical fuels. That's why you must go through space and time using a wormhole, but just how to guide this wormhole and the size of the wormhole seems like anyones guess.
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Just fall into a black hole. Bring a walkie talkie so we can communicate.
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Ryan, that is possible through a Kerr black hole. Not all black holes are created equal.

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If you could travel through space for as long as it takes, what do you think you would find at the end?

Aldebarian Liquour--the result of a well invested penny.

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Why?
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because it's there.
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Originally posted by Boondawg:

If you could travel through space for as long as it takes, what do you think you would find at the end?
Or would everything just loop back on itself, in one huge circle?

What do you think you would find?



I'm pretty sure you would find this: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/041704.html
Or something just like it.

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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:
I'm pretty sure you would find this: http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/041704.html
Or something just like it.


War and pestilence?

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Originally posted by fierogtowner:
Ryan, that is possible through a Kerr black hole. Not all black holes are created equal.


God doesn't play gophers with the universe.

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Originally posted by maryjane:

because it's there.


How do you know?
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If I can remember correctly when picard and the enterprise went to the end of the galaxy, there was like a space funnel with giant snowflake looking things going into it.
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Boondawg said: What do you think you would find?

A whole lot of nothin'

Bluntly speaking, I wouldn't be very interested in the edge of the universe. I'd much rather explore the other 7 dimensions, and possibly find a way to travel between universes. Now THAT would be cool... assuming I wasn't discombobulated by the new universe's laws of physics and/or gosh numbers.
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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:


How do you know?


I've been there-in a vision. 1969

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I have always wondered if our infinite universe is actually just a tiny atom in some much larger infinite universe.
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When it comes to real physical size, a universe incapsulated in an atom is extremely unlikely. The universe is as real as real gets.
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Originally posted by maryjane:

I've been there-in a vision. 1969



Cant argue with that.
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Originally posted by maryjane:


I've been there-in a vision. 1969



We must have went to different schools together!
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