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Can I Do This? I Mean WITHOUT Going To Jail! by Boondawg
Started on: 05-08-2006 09:26 PM
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Report this Post05-08-2006 09:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BoondawgSend a Private Message to BoondawgDirect Link to This Post
I have a raffle.
I sell 20,000 tickets for a dollar each.
The prize is $10,000 dollars.
I keep the other $10,000 dollars as a "Prize Fund Management Fee".

Hey, i'm getting my moving money, one way or the other!
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Sure, if you don't get caught.
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Report this Post05-08-2006 09:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IEatRiceSend a Private Message to IEatRiceDirect Link to This Post
Just pay taxes and I think no one would mind.
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Report this Post05-08-2006 09:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NEPTUNESend a Private Message to NEPTUNEDirect Link to This Post
Reminds me of the old story of a clever farmer who raffled of a dead mule.
he sold 200 tickets at a dollar each.
When the winner complained that the mule was dead, he refunded the dollar.

Yeah, you'd probably need some soap on a rope, Boondawg.
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Report this Post05-08-2006 09:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cliffwSend a Private Message to cliffwDirect Link to This Post
Put me down for ten tickets...for now.
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Report this Post05-08-2006 09:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Spektrum-87GTSend a Private Message to Spektrum-87GTDirect Link to This Post
As long as you give the rules of the contest and the estimated odds of winning, I don't think there is anything wrong with it. You might have to get a permit for it.

How else would NBC do it all the time with their games? I'm sure more than 10,000 people play their "Deal or No Deal?" game, where you win $10,000.
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Report this Post05-08-2006 10:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
That is a "50/50 Raffle" and they are regulated in allot of places. So yes you likely can go to jail, get fined, etc... It is considered gambling in most states so the issue is allot more than tax.

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That's why they call it a 50/50. you're supposed to donate the other half obviously.

A good legal scam is start a non profit org. You only have to donate 1% and have no profits. Doesn't mean you can't pay yourself a CEO sized salary. All you do it tell the people you donate 99% of everything you don't keep. Then when they ask how much you keep, you say, only what we need in operating costs.

I'll check with my friend from the BBB, if you cut me in of course.
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Report this Post05-08-2006 10:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for maryjaneSend a Private Message to maryjaneDirect Link to This Post
Reverend Dog will be sending everyone a little flimsy plastic cross soon. Not yours to keep-just to borrow. Wrap a 20 around it and send it back to Boonie.
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Report this Post05-08-2006 11:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jstrickerSend a Private Message to jstrickerDirect Link to This Post
In KS, you'll go to jail unless you're a tax exempt charity. Only the state can make money from gambling (unless you're on the reservation) in KS.

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Report this Post05-08-2006 11:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SpoonSend a Private Message to SpoonDirect Link to This Post
Most states dont want you gambling because they cant get in on the action. Our local bowling house was targeted a few months ago for selling 50/50 tickets. Been going on for years until we got a new "PA" govenor.
They consider it "small games of chance" . However if you roll a perfect 300 game your rewarded with a nice jacket , your name in the paper, and you're sized you up for a gold ring with no questions ask.
I think its the cash part that gets the gov upset. Maybe if you used monopoly money???
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Report this Post05-09-2006 12:08 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyKSend a Private Message to JohnnyKDirect Link to This Post
Also better hope at least 10K people buy tickets.
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Report this Post05-09-2006 12:30 AM Click Here to See the Profile for gusshotrodSend a Private Message to gusshotrodDirect Link to This Post
Just sell one $20,000 ticket.
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Report this Post05-09-2006 12:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for $Rich$Send a Private Message to $Rich$Direct Link to This Post
i looked up some info a while back to raffle off a car and it wasnt legal in SD
unless it was donated
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Report this Post05-09-2006 12:57 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeDirect Link to This Post
Of course, you could go the completely legal and totally legit way of getting a gov't grant to examine the effects of moose farts on the ozone layer...
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Report this Post05-09-2006 01:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for SpiffClick Here to visit Spiff's HomePageSend a Private Message to SpiffDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by maryjane:

Reverend Dog will be sending everyone a little flimsy plastic cross soon. Not yours to keep-just to borrow. Wrap a 20 around it and send it back to Boonie.



Don't drink the Kool-Aid he sends you. I'm thinking Jim Jones here.
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Report this Post05-09-2006 02:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BoondawgSend a Private Message to BoondawgDirect Link to This Post
 
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Don't drink the Kool-Aid he sends you. I'm thinking Jim Jones here.


If your thinking spiked Kool-Aid, think more like Jim Morrison................

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Originally posted by Blacktree:

examine the effects of moose farts on the ozone layer...


I've already done that.
My study concluded 3 things:
1. They smell like pussywillows.
2. The view works better then Surup of Ipicac.
3. Getting kicked in the head while smelling a moose's ass is not covered by insurance.

My next study:
Shark Breath.

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Report this Post05-09-2006 08:08 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sarabearSend a Private Message to sarabearDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by NEPTUNE:

Reminds me of the old story of a clever farmer who raffled of a dead mule.
he sold 200 tickets at a dollar each.
When the winner complained that the mule was dead, he refunded the dollar.




Thats EXACTLY what I thought of when I read his first post, lol. That story was floating around myspace a few weeks ago.

Goodluck with your raffle boonie
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Report this Post05-09-2006 08:39 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jstrickerSend a Private Message to jstrickerDirect Link to This Post
In your example the difference is a game of "skill" (bowling) vs. a game of "chance" (drawing/lottery). Unless, of course, you're willing to go to your local bowling alley and tell everyone there that there's no skill involved and it's all dumb luck! (I want to be there for that one )

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Most states dont want you gambling because they cant get in on the action. Our local bowling house was targeted a few months ago for selling 50/50 tickets. Been going on for years until we got a new "PA" govenor.
They consider it "small games of chance" . However if you roll a perfect 300 game your rewarded with a nice jacket , your name in the paper, and you're sized you up for a gold ring with no questions ask.
I think its the cash part that gets the gov upset. Maybe if you used monopoly money???


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Originally posted by Boondawg:

I've already done that.
My study concluded 3 things:
1. They smell like pussywillows.
2. The view works better then Surup of Ipicac.
3. Getting kicked in the head while smelling a moose's ass is not covered by insurance.

My next study:
Shark Breath.



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Report this Post05-10-2006 01:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by Boondawg:


I've already done that.
My study concluded 3 things:
1. They smell like pussywillows.
2. The view works better then Surup of Ipicac.
3. Getting kicked in the head while smelling a moose's ass is not covered by insurance.

My next study:
Shark Breath.


ARGH! My joke-fu is weak! I bow to the master...
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Report this Post05-10-2006 02:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for LokiSend a Private Message to LokiDirect Link to This Post
Who has to now the value of the prize? No one...... I say do it

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