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Anyone good at English? (No, not an anti-immigration thread) by IEatRice
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Report this Post04-29-2006 03:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IEatRiceSend a Private Message to IEatRiceDirect Link to This Post
I need someone to write my senior paper. I would do it but its worth a lot and I'm terrible at writing papers 7 pages long. It's over Charles Darwin and his impact and importance. This cannot be a biography. Please don't plagiarize, this teacher checks that kind of stuff and has failed people for it. You will get paid for your time. It's due Monday @ 11:59pm.
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I love the smell of cheating in the morning...
How much?
Note: You may recieve a report on the evolution of the sports car, and how it compares with Darwin's ideas...
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$100 and another $100 if i get an A
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If you're terrible at writing papers, won't the teacher be a little suspicious if you turn in an "A" paper ? Or has someone else written all your homework so far this semester ?
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Originally posted by IEatRice:

Please don't plagiarize


I love this. Do my work for me, but don't plagiaraize.

Heads it's irony.
Tails it's hypocrisy.
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Haha, what's the problem? Just write what you feel. Do you feel strongly about evolution or creationism? If you feel strongly about something the paper will come out easier. I had to write a 10 page paper last year and I wrote it on video game economics. Like, how the economy works inside videos games like Everquest, WoW, Star Wars Galaxies, etc. If I can stretch that topic into 10 pages (actually wrote 12, but whatever ) you can write 7 pages on Darwin.

BTW I'd do it for you if I had time. Have you turned in any other papers this semester though? A professor can tell if you wrote your paper just by the writing style.

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Originally posted by Formula88:


I love this. Do my work for me, but don't plagiaraize.

Heads it's irony.
Tails it's hypocrisy.
**flip**


Thats not plagerisim.. Although I do see the humour.

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Originally posted by red88gt:
If you're terrible at writing papers, won't the teacher be a little suspicious if you turn in an "A" paper ? Or has someone else written all your homework so far this semester ?


Our first teacher was too nice and was fired. Didn't count students late if they come in 30 seconds after the bell, took late homework, let us go early for lunch sometimes. But she got canned and they brought in this new guy and he's a total prick. We haven't done an essay with him in class yet.

 
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I love this. Do my work for me, but don't plagiaraize.

Heads it's irony.
Tails it's hypocrisy.
**flip**


Heads. If you're gonna do it and I'm going to pay you $100, I don't want it to be something you pasted off Wikipedia.
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Report this Post04-29-2006 09:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cliffwClick Here to Email cliffwSend a Private Message to cliffwDirect Link to This Post
Ummm........
How can you learn if you dont fail ? And get up and try again ? Do you not need to be good at English ?
Rice, I am a high school drop out. Never had to do what you need done. I can tell you this, I can get you an "A". I can also tell you this. My time is worth more than $200.00.
Just because I am a drop out, I am not stupid. I bump elbows with doctors, lawyers, judges, and roofers. I should say doctors, lawyers, judges, roofers, bump elbows with me also.
What carried me in life was English.
Seven pages in two days for two hundred dollars ???? How long have you had to do this ? Got any notes ? Really want an "A"? $1000.00 is my going rate....plus tips
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Yeah, I don't know if 2 days is enough time... Even the "professional" essay writers have a 5 day turnaround. Search on google for a place though... you might get lucky.
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Originally posted by JohnnyK:


Thats not plagerisim.. Although I do see the humour.


Sure it is.

pla·gia·rize - To use and pass off (the ideas or writings of another) as one's own.

Turning in a paper written by someone else as his own work. Doesn't have to be a published author's work. Not as obvious as copying a page out of the encyclopedia, but effectively the same.
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i smell an integrity problem here.
write your own paper.
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I can just see it now, rice going to school tomorrow and seeing the new teacher getting out of his Fiero with the Pennocks sticker on the back.
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I can just see it now, rice going to school tomorrow and seeing the new teacher getting out of his Fiero with the Pennocks sticker on the back.


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You know, I was able to squeeze 5 pages out of "Was Han Solo a Womanizer?" in Comp 101. An essay regarding Charles Darwin should be a breeze.

You got 24 hours, dude... crunch time!

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Originally posted by IEatRice:

I need someone to write my senior paper. I would do it but its worth a lot and I'm terrible at writing papers 7 pages long.


Really? And your major is....? (Please don't say English)

 
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Please don't plagiarize, this teacher checks that kind of stuff and has failed people for it.


Has he/she failed anyone for cheating? Just wondering.

I'll bet you're really good at attending on campus socialist rallies and drunken circle jerks, though.

This must be why we have so many dishonest and incompetent people in jobs for which they're not qualified.

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Look,
Do an outline.
A)Beliefs of people at the time
B)Why he was on the ship and that voyage
C)Basic conclusions he made and why they conflicted with attitudes
D)Trials and conflicts with education (like Scopes Trials (I'm from Tennessee!))
E) Final conclusion
BINGO

Keep your sentences simple, to the point and keep vague opinions out of it.
Stay off the forum for an afternoon and google Darwin, etc.
For example: http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/FTrials/scopes/scopes.htm
A "C" in your work is worth a lot more than an unearned A, You'll know that
you did it.
GO FOR IT, You can do it.
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Oh, the horrors! The new teach is a prick because you now have to show up for class on time, jeez, he even wants the frickin homework on time now!
Better get used to the real world Bub!

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Sure it is.

pla·gia·rize - To use and pass off (the ideas or writings of another) as one's own.

Turning in a paper written by someone else as his own work. Doesn't have to be a published author's work. Not as obvious as copying a page out of the encyclopedia, but effectively the same.


You sure it's plagerism even if it has their consent?

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I thought about doing this. I could certainly use the $100.

But if I wrote it, they would probably kick him out of class LOL
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Just do this man a favor and do the paper for him. He's giving $200 so that's a hefty deal for a paper. I personally absolutely suck at English, it's bogus how they make you read, and I mean reading poetry, in my opinion it's boring useless **** . I get absolutely nothing from it. I am mostly a concrete person and reading poetry will only expand my mind about somes stupid cryptic story that I must cypher out via stupid ass literary devices. That is what english has been like since the 50s. Most people don't give a **** about poetry. If you like it great, have fun learning it, I am just worked up about it since I've repeated English class 12th grade a great deal of times since I hate figuring out what the **** the author is trying to say. Just give me the facts and the truth.
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I agree with fierogtowner, somebody do the paper for him, I would but english wasn't my strong suit. I never could wrap my mind around hidden meanings, ect..
It may be considered cheating, but really, how much of it is he really going to use in the real world?
At work I see passing the buck all the time ( I think they call it delagating ) Its an actual skill that seems to come in handy in the corporate world. If you dont think you can do a good enough jod, have somebody else do it for ya. No problem here.

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This must be why we have so many dishonest and incompetent people in jobs for which they're not qualified.



Case rested.
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Originally posted by twofatguys:
It may be considered cheating, but really, how much of it is he really going to use in the real world?

Forget it's English. There are more life lessons here than English.
Those that delegate need to know if the delegation was successful.

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Fierogtowner,
I'm with you, most poetry is namby pamby crap. For some real poetry look up Rudyard Kipling, Grave of 100 Heads is good.
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You sure it's plagerism even if it has their consent?


I don't see why not. It's not the theft of someone else's work. It's the representation of someone else's work as your own. That says nothing about consent, implied or implicit.
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plagarism is claiming someone else's work as your own, plain and simple. consent is irrelevant.

when i was a TA i became very adept at spotting it. mediocre (or worse) student suddenly produces excellent paper. automatic F. second offense, expulsion. sure, some get away with it, but is it worth the risk? besides, it says something about who you are. a liar, and arguably a thief. i suppose next we'll claim we're not getting the respect we deserve.

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"Plagiarism is theft of another person's writings or ideas. Generally, it occurs when someone steals expressions from another author's composition and makes them appear to be his own work" - from answers.com

He is paying for a service. He can't get caught simply because the teacher couldn't prove it's been copied, which it wasn't.

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when i was a TA i became very adept at spotting it. mediocre (or worse) student suddenly produces excellent paper. automatic F. second offense, expulsion. sure, some get away with it, but is it worth the risk? besides, it says something about who you are. a liar, and arguably a thief. i suppose next we'll claim we're not getting the respect we deserve.




I vote you write the paper, you allready know what mistakes not to make LOL jk

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Originally posted by fierogtowner:

"Plagiarism is theft of another person's writings or ideas. Generally, it occurs when someone steals expressions from another author's composition and makes them appear to be his own work" - from answers.com

He is paying for a service. He can't get caught simply because the teacher couldn't prove it's been copied, which it wasn't.



And according to Webster, ": to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the source
intransitive senses : to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source"

But I think the definition that really matters is the teacher's. Most good teachers can spot a work done by someone other than the student. And even if it's not plagiarism, it's still academic fraud and you will at the very least fail the paper.

I wonder how much time and effort IEatRice has put into finding someone to write his paper compared to how much time he's spent working on it.
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So just make the paper a C paper.
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i'm seeing a lot of people who seem to think plagarism is OK. santa is making his list.
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i'm seeing a lot of people who seem to think plagarism is OK. santa is making his list.


High school is by far the most worthless waste of time there is. If anybody learned anything, they'd call it college and charge $2000 a head per semester.

If he wants to pay someone to write his paper, that's his perogative. I think it's wrong to steal people's work and call it your own, but when the work is created for you and paid for?
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You'll burn in hell if you help IEatRice. For sure .

IEatRice, dude, seriously, you made mistakes, live with them. What have you been doing the past few weeks since this was assigned? Streetracing idiots with your Cobalt SS? Is that what matters to you more? You should have done this assignment on time instead of placing the burden on us at the last minute. I remember hating english and hating writing papers, I used to put them off to the last minute. And I got bad grades. Then, I did 1 paper that I was actually interested in, and I actually had to cut myself short because it was getting too long. I haven't missed turning in a paper or gotten anything less than a B since 10th grade, and I'm a sophomore in college now. I've taken 3 English courses so far in college, the first 2 (101 and 102) I got high A's in, the last one I got a B because it was mostly reading. If you had come in here a week ago, instead of yesterday, I would have enjoyed writing a paper on Darwin for you for $200 (I need the money...). But, even if I had started yesterday when you first came in here, I'd be having trouble finishing it tonight. Sorry dude, take the F and re-take the class if you need to.

And for those who say we don't need English, I see way too many idiots who can't express themselves worth crap through writing. Its a good idea to learn to type well so people on the internet and in the real world can take you seriously. I don't deal with people who use all caps or use idiotic internet slang all of the time.
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High school is about socializing, making friends, learning, preparing you for the real world but 4 years is a bit of a waste. They should go for 2 years.

Tinton, that burden costs $200.
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High school is by far the most worthless waste of time there is. If anybody learned anything, they'd call it college and charge $2000 a head per semester.

If he wants to pay someone to write his paper, that's his perogative. I think it's wrong to steal people's work and call it your own, but when the work is created for you and paid for?


I wholeheartedly agree. I hated high school, they just babysat us most of the time. Because of the shitloads of busy work they had to give us just to keep us there and not acting up, I never took homework seriously. In elementary school they rewarded us for finishing our work by letting us have play time, in High School, you finish your work and guess what? More work! And there's an endless supply! I prefer college, if the professor doesn't have any more to say we leave, class is over!

I wouldn't say High School doesn't teach anything.....but seriously, they could teach the same amount in about half the time if they cut out the babysitting and the busy work.

I have no problem with IEatRice wanting someone else to write his paper. Nowadays we know cash rules everything around us, green, get the money, dollar dollar bill y'all. Its what drives America, if you have the money you can get ahead in life, screw actually having the skills.
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You sure it's plagerism even if it has their consent?



According to the rules of Conduct at OSU it is. I would consider it as such because he is using ones ideas as his own.
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Meh, somewhere in the reference index just write (So and so, 2006)..
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I agree. High School was 100% I'm in my first year of college and have learned so much more "important" things than I did in all of high school. Only thing I found important in High School was math, and shop class. I had a GPA of about 1.8 in high school, yep, no joke. Now, in college, where it actually matters, I have a 3.8 GPA. I would do it for you, but its probably too late now, since it due tomorrow. Good luck though.

BTW: Do you need this credit to graduate?
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Report this Post05-01-2006 03:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fastback 86Send a Private Message to Fastback 86Direct Link to This Post
I'm fairly certain that the point of assigning the paper was that you'd learn something from it, not so someone else would. Otherwise, he would've just assigned it to them. Do you paper and get the grade you deserve. Get a bad grade? Then obviously you needed and still need the practice.
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