i was wondering if there is any way that you can tell if my phone line is tapped? please LMK if there is anything i can do to find out if its tapped... Thanx JAson
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
You can buy a 'bug' detector, also detects a video camera. Radio Shack or some of the mail order catalogs like Heartland. Not very expensive at all, few bucks.
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Ferrari Fan Member
Posts: 1594 From: Newport News VA USA Registered: Jan 2002
Originally posted by rogergarrison: You can buy a 'bug' detector, also detects a video camera. Radio Shack or some of the mail order catalogs like Heartland. Not very expensive at all, few bucks.
how do these work? do you hear like a loud sound or what? LMK, thanx Jason
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rogergarrison Member
Posts: 49601 From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio Registered: Apr 99
I have no idea. Id guess it somehow detects how many items are on line so it would detect 2 pieces of equip on at a time. My best guess. Suggest you go to Radio Shack and ask them.
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johnt671 Member
Posts: 2271 From: sugarloaf pa usa Registered: Feb 2001
Don't know if this still applies today but years ago a legal tap beeped every so many seconds so you knew the line was tapped. A friend bought everything he needed to do an illegal tap on his phone at Radio Shack. Busted his wife and a good friend. Go to R.S. and find out what you need to dectect a tap.
John, your right, a legal, over the counter, recording or listening device is supposed to beep, or even give a message that the conversation is being recorded. Covert wiretaps don't do this, they are totally annonomous, thus, the reason for the neccessary court order to be able to install by law enforcement or security agencies.
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stimpy Member
Posts: 8197 From: Salinas, CA Registered: Jan 2000
Yes, we are tapping your phone. We are in a van parked outside your house. Yes, the black one. If you are done with that pizza, do you think we could get a couple slices out here? It's cold and we're kinda hungry. Thanks.
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FieroMaster88 Member
Posts: 7680 From: Mattawan, MI Registered: Nov 2000
i got 3 diffrent kinds of phone tapes. it's amazing what u never new about most of ur fmaily and friends! aloutgh it is illegal and I don't condon it. why do you suspect you'r phone may be tapped?
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FieroJoe Member
Posts: 2314 From: Southfield, MI Registered: Nov 2000
Hey Jason! Depends... Do you suspect your wiring in the house? Then look it over real carefully, especially the TAP BOX outside the house... The tap box is the transition from telco to home wiring, and an easy place to hade taps... crash...
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chester Member
Posts: 4063 From: State of insanity...moved in and comfortably numb... Registered: Jun 2001
For those of you unaware, the government - yes our beloved government, records every phone conversation in the United States and runs the conversations against dictionary searches for key words using Cray supercomputers. This has been in place since the late 50's early 60's. They get away with it by having other countries do the monitoring for them so they "technically" aren't infringing on privacy rights. So when you think your all alone remeber, Big Brother is watching.
Rob, i was about to add what you did. I've heard that as well, that our conversations are recorded and such. I'm sure that they do it with email too. it really wouldn't be hard to do. i'd advise that if you have any communication that you need to keep private, use PGP encryption on your email. I haven't heard that the government has been able to crack it yet.
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Raydar Member
Posts: 40727 From: Carrollton GA. Out in the... country. Registered: Oct 1999
Originally posted by chester: For those of you unaware, the government - yes our beloved government, records every phone conversation in the United States and runs the conversations against dictionary searches for key words using Cray supercomputers...
Rob D.
Rob,
I have heard it referred to as "Echelon". I've been hearing rumors about it for 4-5 years. Not meant as a flame, but I don't see how this is possible, from a technical standpoint. I have been in telecommunications for over 20 years, and have seen no evidence of any such activity. The "man" would have to have a point of presence (place to connect) somewhere in the phone system, and a way to get the traffic from that phone system to wherever they're doing the crunching. To monitor a single line, or a select few, would be a cakewalk. To monitor all of them would be physically impossible. We are only now developing the technology that would make monitoring even a portion of all the phone calls possible. My point is, there would have to be a target. You can't just record everyting.
Carnivore is another thing altogether. The FBI has supposedly "requested" a point of presence with all the major ISPs. AFAIK, they can selectively look at any email that they want. They might even be crunching all of it, although I doubt it. I suspect they are also being selective.
What I've head, that hasn't been mentioned yet is that there's a voice recognition system somewhere in phone lines that waits for certain words to be mentioned that trips a recording mechanism....
Rememmber, some years back there was a "Jam Eschelon" day, when everyone got online and on their phones to jam/overwhelm the eschelon system...
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ejayerik Member
Posts: 645 From: Camarillo, Ca. USA Registered: Dec 2001
No flame but the thought that the government really cares what everyone is saying all the time is rediculous. Now, if you take corp., thats a different story. Just for market research alone they would love to hear it all. But as the above says, it is impossible and impractical. Big brother is not watching you people, just keep doing what your doing. You can go on with your lives. Never knowing that the real "man" is God. Now he knows what your even thinking. Kind of scary huh? But then again, he has probably seen it all.
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Our RM told all of us to not tell people how to secretly set up recording devices or phone tapping equipment. She told us to tell you to talk to an attorney. We Radio Shack employees are sworn to secrecy But it’s easy to figure out
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