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Whats diff. on a Pont. FIREHAWK? by FieroKyle
Started on: 02-15-2002 11:13 PM
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What is different between a Firebird/TA compared to a Firehawk. They didn't make many of them, and I don't know much about about them. Also like what years were they made and what special options did they have. Just curious.

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Also, try www.slpeng.com

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Report this Post02-16-2002 12:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IwannaIRMClick Here to Email IwannaIRMSend a Private Message to IwannaIRMDirect Link to This Post
Here are your basic answers everything else can be answered on there website SLP

First off the Firehawk made it's debut in 1991 and will meet it's demise in 2002 (due to GM killing the fbody).

Firehawks were originally only available in Formula trim. Meaning, you could not get a Firehawk Trans Am. I think the first year you were able to get a Firehawk with Trans Am trim was in 1994.

If you go to Firehawk.org you can get a complete breakdown of total Firehawks produced per year and available options.

Currently this is how a Firehawk differs in appearance from a plain Trans Am or a WS6.

Exterior
The hood, 17" wheels, optional rear spoiler (2000 and newer not available on convertibles), all Trans Am/Formula decals are removed and replaced with Firehawk decals (color specific to color of car, ie.. red car yellow graphics, etc. ).

Performance
You get free flowing SLP exhaust, either Billstein or ILE suspension, and Auburn rear differential.

Interior
You get custom Firehawk floormats, dash plaque (used to be numbered), key fob, rear deck mat, and custom portfolio.

There were only two custom platform of Firehawks built they were the Comp T/A (about 74 built) and the 10th Anniversary car (about 139 built).

The Firehawks sister/brother is the Camaro SS, although you won't see Chevrolet advertising SLP since they own the rights to the SS logo.

All Firehawks have SLP stickers in the drivers door jamb and glove box. So if you are buying a used one make sure they are there. People will build clones and call them the real deal.

One good thing about SLP in my opinion, is if you need replacement Firehawk parts you must provide them with your VIN so they can verify it is a real Hawk. This helps keep cloning out of the loop.

That's about it. If you need anymore info check out the sites that I have shown. They have much more knowledge than I do.

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Originally posted by IwannaIRM:

I think the first year you were able to get a Firehawk with Trans Am trim was in 1994.


Good summary. Actually, the first year the TA body style was available as a Firehawk was 1999.

Also, as a side note - there was no 1998 Firehawk. This was due to the planned fixed headlights not meeting DOT specifications.

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Texas test track was running 2 2003 Firehawks that will never see life as anything except a protype apparently. one of them had a Z06 motor. the other had a ??? but it was almost as fast as the Z version.. they looked ALOT different than previous years. But the ass was still fat and ugly Handeling was sweet.. and interior was too "plasticy" otherwise.. I know knothing bout this car LOL

The previous year models could out run and out handle the Camaro SS and the WS6.. test track proved that.. 1200 miles a day for 4-6 months... and they were still going.. the Camaro SS dumped its rear end after 130k miles. But we drove em harder than heck.

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I seem to remember from my brief (6 weeks) stint as a car salesman (Pontiac, no less), that the Firehawk also had a Hurst shifter. This was in 1995.
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Originally posted by Hartz:

Good summary. Actually, the first year the TA body style was available as a Firehawk was 1999.

That's not entirely true. In 1995 the Comp T/A was released in limited numbers and also saw production in 1996 and 1997. This would be the actual first years for the TA body style. So, I was only off by a year.

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Originally posted by RedHaze86SD4:
The previous year models could out run and out handle the Camaro SS and the WS6..

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Camaro SS the same thing as the Firehawk? Well, as "same" as the Z28 is the same as the Trans Am.
http://www.slpeng.com/2002camaross/index.html http://www.slpeng.com/2002firehawk/index.html

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Report this Post02-17-2002 12:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroKyleClick Here to Email FieroKyleSend a Private Message to FieroKyleDirect Link to This Post
Thats some great info. Yeah, I believe hearing somewhere they came with a hurst shifter.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the Camaro SS the same thing as the Firehawk?

Yes and no. They are both built off the same platform and are built in the same plant (St. Therese, CAN.) but there are distinct differences in the two cars. Aerodynamics, weight distribution, cosmetics, etc. It's like saying a GMC is a Chevy. Everyone would agree they are built from the same platform but they are two different trucks.

The Hurst Shifter was a GM option. You could get this without ordering the Firehawk.

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Originally posted by IwannaIRM:
That's not entirely true. In 1995 the Comp T/A was released in limited numbers and also saw production in 1996 and 1997. This would be the actual first years for the TA body style. So, I was only off by a year.



Good point, but many Comp TA owners would argue that their cars are not Firehawks. In fact, I think even SLP considers them separate vehicles.

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Originally posted by IwannaIRM:
Yes and no. They are both built off the same platform and are built in the same plant (St. Therese, CAN.) but there are distinct differences in the two cars. Aerodynamics, weight distribution, cosmetics, etc. It's like saying a GMC is a Chevy. Everyone would agree they are built from the same platform but they are two different trucks.

The Hurst Shifter was a GM option. You could get this without ordering the Firehawk.

I knew someone was going to say that. That's why I said "as 'same' as the Z28 is the same as a Trans Am."

Maybe I should have said equivalent? Meaning same drivetrain and power output in the same chassis.
Firebird V6 is equivalent to Camaro V6
Trans Am is equivalent to Camaro Z28
Firehawk is equivalent to Camaro SS

The post by RedHaze86SD4 made it sound like the Firehawk was more powerful than the Camaro SS, but they both receive the same modifications and have the same output. Weight differences are negligible for similar option packages, and aerodynamics is close enough not to matter in the 1/4 mile. Aerodynamics would play a part in top speed and high speed performance, though.

I'm not trying to nit pick between the two cars, but lets face it, they are the same car, with only cosmetic differences. I don't know how the weight distribution would be different without adding ballast. The Camaro body panels are slightly different but probably very close in weight to the Firebird body panels.

On the Chevy/GMC example? You could change badges and trim work (grills, etc.) between the two and you'd have to check the VIN to see which is which.

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Forumla88 - You're right. The Hawk is similar to the SS. Chevy actually markets the SS, whereas Pontiac got a little weird with itself when it started offering both a Ram Air package and the Firehawk. Hence you see a lot more SS's, whereas the Hawk is still fairly rare.

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ive seen too many TV specials to ignore this. The FireHawk and Cmamro SS are both modded by SLP. The first Firehawk was in 91 with a hefty price tag of $40,000 (there were no options it came with everything)which was more than a Vette. It came with various perfromance parts and a 6-speed trans (keep in mind, GM did not offer a 6-speed in these yet so it was installed by SLP) then when they came out with the new body style and LT1 GM released a 6-speed trans available in the F-body which cut the cost. Also SLP got smart and made there performance options instead of just one big costly package. Then SLP started producing the Camaro SS for chevy. HP ranged from 300-400

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