I was on morpheus downloading this band from tv video's that where like cool car crashes and stuff that is like on world's scaryest police chases and somehow downloaded a film I didn't mean to this is what i saw! I saw somthing that distubed me more then anything in my entire life ! I jumped outa my seat and gaged and i'm not kidding. It looked like the filmer had a amature camera cuss it was sorta woboling around and he was focusing on a russian looking soilder that was on the ground his head laying on the rock's, A man's Big black boot stepd on the side of the soilder's face and the soilder grunted, And the man pulled out a big bowie knife and pressed it threw the side of the guy's throat as he grunted really hard then u could hear this gargling sound and he cut back and fourth tell it like cut his adam's apple out and you could see it all. It looked very real and made me jump outa my set cussing and gagaing I was like oh god I have never been distured this bad in my life and I have seen people in fatal motorcylcaccident's before. Can someone please confirm that they remember that from some movie or somthing and tell me it's fake because it's really bothering me. and I would like to know that didn't really happend. I know that hollywood can make very relistc stuff. someone know ?? anyone that could confirm it being fake? it has to be right ? they can't do that to someone ! help.
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ejayerik Member
Posts: 645 From: Camarillo, Ca. USA Registered: Dec 2001
Yes it was real. And if you saw it, I know what you were looking for on Morphius. Tisk tisk. Videos like the ones you were looking for will get you in trouble my friend. People post videos with titles like that so that it will shock you when you open them and expect to see something completly different and end up with something like that. Give it some thought. You are not in trouble. But there are people who track subjects such as those.
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84fierotrevor Member
Posts: 4998 From: puyallup washington Registered: Oct 2001
I was looking for car crash video's. they had some awsome one's like a porch wrecking into a bmw and stuff. and a corvette crashing on the freeway at 165 mph but no one dead in it. they where all called faces of death so I searched under that and just started downloading a bunch of those. I can't belive that should even be leggal! they need to call the F.B.I. and take that **** off ! it really scared the heck outa me I don't think I will ever look at action movies the same! I remember saving private ryan was supposed to be scary. I feel asleep in that movie I'm probebly one of the most decencitized people in the world I have seen a motorcyle going 65 on a freeway get side swiped and the rider hit the center divider at 65mph. I have also seen a car with a man and women in it get hit by a train. both Dead on arivial and my mom was a nurse/EMT/firefighter so everytime there has been a accedint on the side of the road i'm the person holding the guy's head still while he screams. But none of that affected me at all. but that video disturbed the @#$% outa me like nothing ive seen before!! isn't there someway to get whoever did that arressted ?
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84fierotrevor Member
Posts: 4998 From: puyallup washington Registered: Oct 2001
Originally posted by ejayerik: Yes it was real. And if you saw it, I know what you were looking for on Morphius. Tisk tisk. Videos like the ones you were looking for will get you in trouble my friend. People post videos with titles like that so that it will shock you when you open them and expect to see something completly different and end up with something like that. Give it some thought. You are not in trouble. But there are people who track subjects such as those.
what do you mean searching for those ? I wasn't searching for people having there throat slit! I was looking for car crash video's there fun to watch. not like ones with people dying. i'm talking like what they show on worlds worst driver's and stuff. I acctuly specifficly was looking for the one with the corvette that crashes into the back of the big rig while running from cop's and he is throw from the car and keep's running lol. he didn't even have a briuse on him ! it was on tv today but I wanted it saved so I could show my mom cuss she loves cop chases. everytime there is a live one on tv (about once a week around here) we bust out the popcorn! but anyway's I got side tracked from that and kept watching all the other crashes I downloaded. and ended up with that one. have you seen the video before ? did it bother u as much me ?
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ejayerik Member
Posts: 645 From: Camarillo, Ca. USA Registered: Dec 2001
Yes they bother me. And you saw it. There is no way that could have been fake. It is a very close up shot. And I was refering to something else when I mentioned what you were searching for. You seem to be innocent enough. When people like the ASPCA get ahold of Morphius, they leave titles of film that have nothing to do with the acual content. The County of Ventura has done several raids on certain "individuals" and have seized their property in the process. On the hard drive of one of these people, there was alot of movies downloaded from Morphius with the titles CP and Snuff. Well, needless to say, quite a few of them contained movies simular to the one you described. Upon research of their own they concluded that the searchie was looking for one thing and getting another. In my opinion, that person should have been shot. But, I am not the judge nor am I the jury. Movies such as the one you saw are very shocking. Though I hate to admit I have seen my share of traffic fatalities. Such as the ones you see on Rotten.com. Though the ones I have seen have been in person. Many people can say the same. Weather you are in Law enforcement such as myself, or you are a war veteran, you never forget the fact that death is part of life. I'll stop getting wierd on you guys and leave you with this: Anyone who is not shocked, has become numb and has reached the inalieable truth within themselves and never forgets.
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84fierotrevor Member
Posts: 4998 From: puyallup washington Registered: Oct 2001
what is cp ? and what is snuff ? isn't snuff those rape and then kill them video's ? I saw a movie I think called 8mm with nick cage that tried to ketch a guy that was doing that. they acctuly have that stuff on mourphes ? how can morphes let them do that ? they need to like ban people or somthing! or have like investigator's search for it and then find the people that put it on there and do a investigation and have them convivted off the crime. that can't be to hard. I can't belive that morpheuos is letting people have stuff like that on there. I know that u can download stuff like photoshop and other software programs ur supposed to pay for, And get them free. I admit I downloaded photoshop from there. that's illigal and should be stoped also but. to have video's of people being killed or raped they need to shut it down or filter what is uploaded or shared on there. or ketch these people and put them in jail ! and if they hide the files under a false name so you think ur downloading some music video and see ur bestfried that dissaperd 4 years ago and was never found! GOD save the world. I had no idea that stuff like this even really happend in real life! I know people die and stuff from old age or car crashes or gang shootout's. but people being murderd or raped and killed on tape then distributed over the net! I think i'm more shockedthen I have ever been in my life that this can happend I thought the government didn't let this stuff happend. I mean u can't even see fake viliant movies on T.V. with out them editing stuff. yet you can sit at you'r computer and download a real live person being brutely exacuted. Can I report this to someone or somthing so it can be stoped ?
morpheous users, there was a member a week ago that lost his whole HD from a virus while DL'ing from that site. I think it was 72vinman. Do a search on 'virus'-0T-subject only. What gets me, is the titles people put on stuff. I was doing a google search on Tuna the other day, for the Abacore thread, click on a tuna website, & it is a pornsite, that actually uses tuna in a header. The SOB started a half doz popups before I could get Zonealarm to shut it down.
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Posts: 4998 From: puyallup washington Registered: Oct 2001
Originally posted by 84fierotrevor: Can I report this to someone or somthing so it can be stoped ?
Welcome to the internet. Authorities already know about this stuff. Just can't really do much about it. (I suspect that this may change, before too long. I won't even get into the political ramifications, though. That's a different discussion.) Sadly, it *is* out there. Sorry you had to stumble across it.
I've heard of "faces of death" videos and such. They *are* supposed to be real, from what I understand. Never cared to find out, though.
Be careful what you look for. You might find it.
Peace.
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ejayerik Member
Posts: 645 From: Camarillo, Ca. USA Registered: Dec 2001
CP is child pornography. It can & should be reported , but I don't know where you would do this. Your ISP would have info on this. I think it is one of the things the FBI uses Carnivore for.
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Posts: 1102 From: Cambridge, Ontario, Canada. Registered: Aug 2001
I saw that video on Stileproject around christmas time. Probably one of the most disturbing things i've EVER seen. I wonder how everybody gets ahold of these videos?
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Posts: 35467 From: Orlando, Florida Registered: Oct 2001
What you people have to remember is that this is the internet. There is no censure and even if it is against the law, stuff can be uploaded and viewed before it is removed or shut down. I personally try to avoud sites of ill repute or that are disturbing.
I would bet that by using Morpheus to download those videos you would be violating the terms of service you agreed to when you signed up for internet access. If you did turn them in I think they would probably take your computer as evidence. Best thing to do is stay away from it.
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GTFiero1 Member
Posts: 6508 From: Camden County NJ Registered: Sep 2001
Best advice I can give, what I try to live by, is if you don't like something and there's nothing you can realistically do to stop it, ignore it.. unless it is DIRECTLY affecting you.
I'm aware of the stuff that's on Rotten.com, also that there are probably pics somewhere of 6 year old girls being f*cked by an adult... neither one is anything I wish to see, so I don't go out of my way to find them, and if such a case were to arise where I did see it, I would ignore it, cause there's nothing I could do to stop all of it, and anything I did do would just be a waste of time, and would at best only get 1-2 people in trouble.
anyway, if you enjoy seeing people get into accidents, and go out of your way to search for videos of that stuff, you gotta expect to see sh*t like graphic death. I don't want to see stuff like that, so I don't download it..
If I was walking down the street and saw a person getting beat to death by a gang, there is realistically nothing I can do.. I'd probably still call the cops as I was running away, and it'd definitely affect me.. but since there'd be nothing I could do, my overall action would be to let someone know in a vain hope that something could be done, but mostly I'd mind my own business.. now if it was a kid or like a young girl being attacked, I'd probably try to help them myself, even though it could very well get me killed.
to me, seeing a picture of someone being killed in a violent fashion is INFINITELY more offensive than seeing, for example, a naked minor.... now whoever disagrees with me. that's fine.. but as soon as someone tells me I'm wrong for that, they can take their opinion and.. well, you get the idea.
Originally posted by maryjane: morpheous users, there was a member a week ago that lost his whole HD from a virus while DL'ing from that site. I think it was 72vinman. Do a search on 'virus'-0T-subject only. What gets me, is the titles people put on stuff. I was doing a google search on Tuna the other day, for the Abacore thread, click on a tuna website, & it is a pornsite, that actually uses tuna in a header. The SOB started a half doz popups before I could get Zonealarm to shut it down.
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Yup, that was me. Lost my whole hard rive. I am almost ashamed to tell you what I was downloading. A friend of mine asked me to get him the Milli Vanilli album as a joke for his girlfriend. How was I to know that that they renamed and executable file "girl you know it's true". How stupid do I feel when I have to tell people that I lost my hard drive because of Milli Vanilli. Oh the shame.
What you saw was sadly enough, very real. It's a Russian soldier getting his head cut off by an Afghan soldier. I haven't seen it, nor will I ever want to see it, but that's quite a notorious video.
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Posts: 2086 From: Snohomish, Wa Registered: Jun 99
Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: What you saw was sadly enough, very real. It's a Russian soldier getting his head cut off by an Afghan soldier. I haven't seen it, nor will I ever want to see it, but that's quite a notorious video.
I thought the Russian soldier was executed by Chechnyan rebels.
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Posts: 4879 From: york,pa,17403 Registered: Dec 2000
There actually are quite a bunch of underground hackers that frequently report and search for people that trade in and collect child ****. The exploitation of children is something that should not be taken lighty. On another note those real death videos are sick and should be given the same treatment.
There is nothing illegal about that russian video. You can see that same sort of thing by renting movies such as "Banned from TV" and the likes. I know a website where you can download hundreds and hundreds of videos akin to the russian one. Nothing really illegal about it here, as far as I know. It is a COMPLETELY different subject than snuff. CP is a whole different matter, but thats not what I am talking about.
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Posts: 1858 From: Lowell, MI. USA Registered: Mar 2001
Hey Trevor! Yes, sorry to say it is a real killing... It was also posted on rotten.com... The person doing the killing is an Afgan rebel killing a Russian, while another Afgan video taped it...
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Posts: 4341 From: Charleston, SC Registered: Oct 2001
Yes, I have seen that video too, I actually got it searching for simpsons episodes, I don't know how but when I saw it, it didn't bother me a whole lot, I wouldnt say im desensitized, but I knew it was real, In my mind subconsiencesly I was probably thinking it was fake (like movies) but in real life I get quesy at the site of alot of blood.
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84fierotrevor Member
Posts: 4998 From: puyallup washington Registered: Oct 2001
That's Crazy I Told my friend about it and he laughed at me saying I was a wussy So I downlaoded it again pressed play turned around and coverd my ears I could still slighty here the awful sounds he makes. My friend did a wierd sorta uncontrolable Gag! like three times. and started shouting to Never show him **** like that again ! I dunno it is a crazy video because most people think that someone dying isn't gonna bother you. and u see way worst on TV with people having there head's blown off at point blank range in movies and it's not gross. but then u watch that video and it like mentely disturds u ! I dunno it must be that u subconcisly know that it's a real person. And that man had a family and a childhood just like us! he grew up. and had likes and dislikes, Favorite foods all that stuff. and in 13 seconds his life is ended and not by god, but another humanbean. and why ? because he isn't from the same country? so they brutely cut his head off while he is alive ? they don't even make it quick and painless? they porpusly make him die a sick and slow death. I hope they burn in hell! I can't understand any humanbean being able to do that to another? That video gave me a whole new look on life and how lucky we are to even be alive. I took war for granet and never even gave a crap about wars as long as I didn't get a plane crashed into my house. But the government is paying people to go try and kill people in a Game i'm not talking about the afgain wars. But battling for land or anything like that. and these Men are having this happend to him. I wonder if the wife or girlfriend or mom or or brother or sister or best friend of that guy has seen that? there is a video game called world war 2 online where thousands can battle each other like a real battlefield. why can't we have somthing like that with each government traing people in that and they can all battle it out in a game the winner gets the land there battling over or wins the basic argument? why real people with real lives? I think I just decided I hate This world we live in.
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ejayerik Member
Posts: 645 From: Camarillo, Ca. USA Registered: Dec 2001
now you have a better understanding of why people object to violence on tv - and why we cover accident victims with a sheet or blanket so no one willhave to see them
for the last 100 years hollywood has sanitized murder and violence - look at old cowboy movies - when someone gets shot they put their hand over their chest and go "aggg" and fall down and die
in real life if you shoot someone with a 45 it blows about 5 lbs of flesh out the other side of the body - so you can imagine what happens when someone gets shot in the head.
This is also why soldiers in WW2 had nervous breakdowns in the battle field (they called it shell shock back then) and why vietnam vets got 'delayed stress syndrom'
Violence is literally an ugly thing. We know what we see on TV is fake - when we happen across the real thing it can have a devistaing effect on you.
Originally posted by 84fierotrevor: and in 13 seconds his life is ended and not by god, but another humanbean. and why ? because he isn't from the same country? so they brutely cut his head off while he is alive ? they don't even make it quick and painless? they porpusly make him die a sick and slow death. I hope they burn in hell! I can't understand any humanbean being able to do that to another?
not to make light of the video clip in question.. but what the hell is a "humanbean"???
Originally posted by DaRkLoRD: to me, seeing a picture of someone being killed in a violent fashion is INFINITELY more offensive than seeing, for example, a naked minor.... now whoever disagrees with me. that's fine.. but as soon as someone tells me I'm wrong for that, they can take their opinion and.. well, you get the idea.
I agree with you, man. Both are awful but I think distibution of videos, pics, etc. of violent deaths does a lot more damage to the society. Does anyone remember Columbine?
A local video store has Face of Death. I've never watched the videos - I've only read the description on the back. I've also talked to a friend who happened to have seen one of those videos. I do not wish to go into details of what they show but it is disgusting. I found out from someone that these movies have been banned at one point. It may be true because no other video store around here carries them. So I decided to call around to get these a$$holes in trouble. After about 50 calls to different gov't agencies, I got nowhere. There was NOT A SINGLE person who could tell me how these laws are enforced and whom to contact.
I suppose if you put kiddie pUrn on the shelf cops would be shutting you down the same day. Our society has double standards.
BTW - I don't rent from that video store anymore - I've seen a kid no more than 12 years old renting one of those movies.
you know if you rent a movie you can put scotch tape over the 'write protect' hole and record over it.
Maybe two hours of Gillians Island reruns would be better than whats on the tape?
If the store calls you up and complains tell them you never watched the tape, so you dont know what was on it when you got it (which would be true BTW)
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Posts: 1873 From: Oakville, ON Registered: Apr 2000
Originally posted by Ken Wittlief: you know if you rent a movie you can put scotch tape over the 'write protect' hole and record over it.
Maybe two hours of Gillians Island reruns would be better than whats on the tape?
If the store calls you up and complains tell them you never watched the tape, so you dont know what was on it when you got it (which would be true BTW)
Who would do such a thing like that?! Not me ! Well...
Another funny thing I did once. I rented a crapy movie from blockbuster(I forget which one, its been a while). It was a VHS so it had the description/storyline of the movie on the back of the movie case. I typed up a new description for it, put it in the same font, and glued it on. It looks *perfect* and its quite funny. Its still at blockbuster and they haven't noticed. I allways point it out to my friends when I go there.
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Posts: 8081 From: Hastings, MI Registered: Oct 2001
Hmm talk about disturbing.. yeah if your old enough and happened to catch a glimpse of this you know that its wrong..
But as mentioned above if your 12 years old its gonna do some damage to you, thats real good when the govt won't do anything about this, but they do about kiddie ****.. go figure.. makes me sick
So if you guys object to watching faces of death, I shouldn't be allowed to rent it? (Well, I could, but i'd be watching gilligan's island).. Sounds kind of like Nazi Germany, don't you think? We found a joke book on my (annoyingly PC) friends shelf, and it had some hilarious yet rude jokes. So instead of giving us the book, he threw it out. Thats not right. I have watched many movies and clips of real death, and it hasn't disturbed me at all.. Am I desensitized? Maybe.. Am I wrong and evil and sick... No..
if they are going to be in a video store they should be rated R or X
young people would be extreamly tramuatized by seeing videos of people being brutally murdered or killed in gory accidents
if adults find these videos entertaining thats their own problem.
The thing that doesnt make any sense is, how can a movie with faked violence earn itself an R rating, but one with real graphic violence and death have no rating at all - thats the issue.
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84fierotrevor Member
Posts: 4998 From: puyallup washington Registered: Oct 2001
Originally posted by JohnnyK: So if you guys object to watching faces of death, I shouldn't be allowed to rent it? (Well, I could, but i'd be watching gilligan's island).. Sounds kind of like Nazi Germany, don't you think? We found a joke book on my (annoyingly PC) friends shelf, and it had some hilarious yet rude jokes. So instead of giving us the book, he threw it out. Thats not right. I have watched many movies and clips of real death, and it hasn't disturbed me at all.. Am I desensitized? Maybe.. Am I wrong and evil and sick... No..
I think The C.I.A need's some head sniper's and you my man would be perfect for the job. one shot. one kill. and you wouldn't even flinch as it went thrue the guy's face. and all over the place.