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Solstace get the green light! by Formula88
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Pontiac Solstice gets green light
from: http://www.autofieldguide.com

Inside Scoop: Green Light for Solstice Bob Lutz has rarely been accused of being indecisive, so it came as little surprise when we learned from several sources at GM that the General's ur-design chief returned to his office right after the auto show press days in Detroit, and gave the Pontiac Solstice coupe and convertible the green light.

Solstice will be built on the front-drive Delta platform,
modified to accommodate a driveline tunnel down the center. Power will come from supercharged and non-supercharged versions of GM's Lotus-designed L850 four-cylinder motor mated to a six-speed manual, or five-speed automatic gearbox. Production reportedly starts in 2004.

Well, here comes the next Fiero. Complete with a "Lotus" connection.

I really hope they make the car less butt-ugly before they release it! But it'll be interesting to see what the final product look like.


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Report this Post01-17-2002 04:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BN BoomerClick Here to Email BN BoomerSend a Private Message to BN BoomerDirect Link to This Post
I hope they redesign the front end. That things like a Reminton electric shaver!
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Report this Post01-17-2002 04:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 84BillClick Here to visit 84Bill's HomePageSend a Private Message to 84BillDirect Link to This Post
it's FWD?
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Report this Post01-17-2002 04:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Direct Link to This Post
Not sure. The quote says it's built on a front wheel drive platform, but modified to accomodate a driveline tunnel. I'm taking that to mean, front engine, RWD. Not very Fiero-esque, but still a 2 seater.

I just hope the car looks better than the current Miata/Jellybean hybrid I've seen.

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Report this Post01-17-2002 04:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jaygee79Click Here to Email Jaygee79Send a Private Message to Jaygee79Direct Link to This Post
anyone have any pics of it? i must've missed it...
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Report this Post01-17-2002 05:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BN BoomerClick Here to Email BN BoomerSend a Private Message to BN BoomerDirect Link to This Post
Maybe it will be an AWD. That would be pretty cool.
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Report this Post01-17-2002 06:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageClick Here to Email OreifSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
A local paper, The Chicago Tribune, Had a story about GM and it's concept cars. Yes the Solstace has a green light. The disturbing news according to the article is Lutz doesn't like the traditional Pontiac front ends. He says they all look like they want to attack something. (and this is a bad thing how?) Anyways, he stated "I had a colleague tell me that Pontiac designs look like the cars are about to attack you. We are going to make them new, fresh, youthful and exciting with clean lines," he said, meaning no more ribbed sides. "All of the new Pontiac designs come out in the next 18 to 24 months [new Grand Prix '03, Grand Am '04, Bonneville replacement '05] and will reflect the new design philosophy of keeping it clean and simple," he said


You can read the entire article here:
http://www.chicagotribune.com/classified/automotive/columnists/chi-0201170001jan17.column?coll=chi%2Dhomepagebiz%2Dutl


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Report this Post01-17-2002 08:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonClick Here to Email rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
maybe mid engine w/ front wheel drive ! That would be different. I dont see how they can get an engine in the front, its so small. But I didnt see the auto show yet.
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Report this Post01-17-2002 08:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for The FieromasterClick Here to Email The FieromasterSend a Private Message to The FieromasterDirect Link to This Post
Can someone link me to pics?? I wanna see what it looks like!

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Report this Post01-18-2002 07:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FierobsessedClick Here to Email FierobsessedSend a Private Message to FierobsessedDirect Link to This Post
The soul of any worthy roadster is the powertrain. The Solstice is powered by a rear-wheel-drive 2.2-liter DOHC supercharged EcoTec four-cylinder engine generating up to 240 horsepower with premium fuel. The supercharger is an off-the-shelf unit supplied right out of the GM Service Parts performance catalog. The engine is mated to a Borg-Warner performance six-speed manual transmission, the same one used in the Corvette.- clipped from the gm site.

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Originally posted by Oreif:
A local paper, The Chicago Tribune, Had a story about GM and it's concept cars. Yes the Solstace has a green light. The disturbing news according to the article is Lutz doesn't like the traditional Pontiac front ends. He says they all look like they want to attack something. (and this is a bad thing how?) Anyways, he stated "I had a colleague tell me that Pontiac designs look like the cars are about to attack you. We are going to make them new, fresh, youthful and exciting with clean lines," he said, meaning no more ribbed sides. "All of the new Pontiac designs come out in the next 18 to 24 months [new Grand Prix '03, Grand Am '04, Bonneville replacement '05] and will reflect the new design philosophy of keeping it clean and simple," he said

Wow, how to screw over all cars. There weren't many great car designs out there. But I always loved the Pontiac front-end. And now they're going to make it like any other car. That Lutz guy has absolutely no balls whatsoever, does he? Somebody posted something else he said a while ago, and that was just as much crap. In a couple of years every car will look exactly the same if this goes on and no people with visions of their own stand up. This just makes me

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Report this Post01-18-2002 12:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fformula88Send a Private Message to Fformula88Direct Link to This Post
Sorry, double post. See below.

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I am VERY happy they are giving this car the green light. Without the Firebird, this division is sorely lacking in anything sporty, and thats not good for the "Excitement" division. I am also glad to hear the S/C engine will make it to production! Give it some guts to start out with. Hopefully they stick with this car and keep improving it over time! Thumbs up GM! (For a change!)


I wouldn't jump to too big of a conclusion witht the Pontiac front end styling yet. Give them a chance to show what they are really thinking about. They are mroe distinctive than other cars on the road, but they can be distinctive without tacking a lot of garbage onto them also. In my opinion, cars like BMW's and Audi's are distinctive, and they don't have plastic ribs for nobody's pleasure. (The Fiero is devoid of Pontiac ribbing too for that matter, but on the other hand its all plastic! )

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Report this Post01-18-2002 01:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BN BoomerClick Here to Email BN BoomerSend a Private Message to BN BoomerDirect Link to This Post
I was never really a fan of the excessive plastic body cladding myself. Kind of a stupid way to dress up a vehicle. I like a "clean" distinctive look.

I'm probably in the minority here, but I know that I'm not alone in liking the look of the new Impalas. It has a clean, aggressive, and definitely distinctive look to it, free of much plastic except for the rockers and the spoiler. Our black LS gets quite a few looks and compliments.

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I found two pics by searching...


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Report this Post01-18-2002 04:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for sqoachClick Here to Email sqoachSend a Private Message to sqoachDirect Link to This Post
OH NO!
I hope it looks better when it's public.

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Report this Post01-18-2002 05:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for The FieromasterClick Here to Email The FieromasterSend a Private Message to The FieromasterDirect Link to This Post
Nucking Fugly Car!!!

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"Power will come from supercharged and non-supercharged versions of GM's Lotus-designed L850 four-cylinder motor"

Here we go with lotus design again....
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those wheels would look sweet on my fiero though
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hmmm, if its a FWD platform, maybe I could buy an escort, put on some insurance, wrap it around the sol-what-ever-the-ugly-thing-is, and then get the engine from my friend, who will more than likely two it away. Next step, trying to shove it in a Fiero.

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Originally posted by Return of Fiero:
hmmm, if its a FWD platform, maybe I could buy an escort, put on some insurance, wrap it around the sol-what-ever-the-ugly-thing-is, and then get the engine from my friend, who will more than likely two it away. Next step, trying to shove it in a Fiero.

Myke

Why don't you just save about 10 steps and buy a Saturn 2.2 then put a supercharger on it?


An front mounted aluminum 4 cyl with a rear mounted transaxle. Nice to see Pontiac's trying something new. (If anyone knows what I'm talking about here, please feel free to reply.)

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