Hey Cliff,

Noticed over the last couple days, everything loads real slow or not at all. Problem on my end or are you going to have it fixed soon.
Tom

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CK, I have noticed the same thing here at work on a 128 DSL line, at home (again 128 DSL) and even when I was in Florida (Super sonic speed internet connection, don't know the number, but thought it was due to the tragedy in NY that was hogging the internet communication rates).

I often have to hit the REFRESH button here at PFF because it says "Done" at the bottom, yet hasn't gone anywhere after saying it was loading previously. Sometimes, it will flip screens, but only the header above shows up. Once I hit the REFRESH button on the page I want to be on, takes forever to reload but then I eventually get it.

POSTING takes fooooorrrrreeeeeeeeevvvvvvveeeeerrrrrrr as well.

I originally thought it was my ISP. However, I can get anyplace else in the snap of ones fingers.

I noticed it particualarily more so after the last maintenance that was recently performed where it was down a couple of hours.

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I noticed the same thing. Sometimes it wont even load.

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James Essar
AOL IM Name: FieroMaster88
Not your ordinary 88 coupe!

I thought it was my system now I see that it is occurring everywhere.

Nope. No problems here. Be aware though that at this moment, a lot of internet connections are extremely slow due to a number of reasons. First of all, there is of course what happened on 9/11. A few very important routers that take care of translatlantic connection were taken down also. The other thing is the Nimda virus that is slowing down a lot of ISPs at the moment. If your ISP is using Windows NT servers, chances are high they are suffering one way or the other from the Nimda virus.

Next time when the connection is slow, do a traceroute by opening a DOS-box (if you are running WinMe, just choose Start -> Run and type "Command"), and type: tracert www.fiero.nl. It'll give you an overview of the time it takes for a packet of data to travel to and from my server as well as all routers in between. It'll tell you where the problem is exactly.

Other than that, the forum can be slow because I've noticed that some people start like 6 searches all at once, which will slow down the forum a bit. But this happens only rarely and will not last longer than a few minutes.

[This message has been edited by Cliff Pennock (edited 10-03-2001).]

Tracing route to fiero.nl [62.58.51.78]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.0.1 ME
2 11 ms 12 ms 12 ms 10.96.224.1 My router
3 19 ms 15 ms 12 ms 653210hfc158.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.10.158]
4 17 ms 32 ms 12 ms gsrc-srp00.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.8.227]
5 25 ms 30 ms 30 ms acr1-sonet2-1-0-0.Atlantaald.cw.net [208.172.67.129]
6 48 ms 48 ms 60 ms acr2-loopback.NewYorknyr.cw.net [206.24.194.62]
7 129 ms 130 ms 128 ms bcr2-so-0-2-0.Thamesside.cw.net [166.63.209.145]
8 120 ms 124 ms 129 ms bcr1.Thamesside.cw.net [166.63.210.61]
9 120 ms 136 ms 131 ms cable-and-wireless-internal-isp.Thamesside.cw.net [166.63.211.198]
10 * * * Request timed out.
11 123 ms 123 ms 122 ms linx-gw1-lonth.uk.conxion.net [195.66.224.96]
12 121 ms 121 ms 120 ms pos0-0-3-brj1-lonsw.uk.conxion.net [213.35.124.29]
13 126 ms 125 ms 130 ms pos0-0-3-brj1-amsvt.nl.conxion.net [213.35.124.1]
14 131 ms 130 ms 128 ms pos0-0-2-brj1-amssl.nl.conxion.net [213.35.124.65]
15 131 ms 130 ms 128 ms versatel-gw1-amssl.nl.speedport.net [213.35.4.30]
16 131 ms 136 ms 135 ms vlan111.as01asd2.versatel.net [62.58.62.4]
17 134 ms 135 ms 132 ms 62.58.58.42
18 131 ms 131 ms 134 ms fiero.nl [62.58.51.78]
Trace complete.

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: 131 ms 131 ms 134 ms fiero.nl [62.58.51.78] Trace complete.

That's a very good ping time, considering you are going all the way over the atlantic!

Its all the hops in between.

Thanks for the reply Cliff. Think you may have hit the nail on the head about members doing multiple searches all at once. Probably cause the response time is a little slow sometimes they get frustrated and hit another button, which just makes everything even slower.

Hey......we'll just have to weather it out!!

cliff if you wouldnt mind, could you explain what this is?

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 10.0.0.1
2 57 ms 55 ms 55 ms wybgpa-2620-1.alltel.net [166.102.115.232]
3 62 ms 57 ms 99 ms wybgpa-3640-1.alltel.net [166.102.115.225]
4 87 ms 71 ms 93 ms r-115.245.alltel.net [166.102.115.245]
5 85 ms 120 ms 103 ms exprpa-7500-1.alltel.net [166.102.99.237]
6 126 ms 112 ms 96 ms 500.Serial2-1-1.GW1.PIT1.ALTER.NET [157.130.218.
197]
7 156 ms 141 ms 175 ms 151.ATM3-0.XR1.DCA1.ALTER.NET [146.188.162.74]
8 123 ms 117 ms 135 ms 195.at-1-0-0.TR1.DCA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.33.206]

9 109 ms 103 ms 119 ms 0.so-6-0-0.IR1.DCA6.ALTER.NET [152.63.9.209]
10 122 ms 106 ms 149 ms so-1-0-0.IR1.DCA4.Alter.Net [146.188.13.38]
11 245 ms 200 ms 207 ms so-5-0-0.TR1.AMS2.Alter.Net [146.188.5.198]
12 173 ms 181 ms 188 ms so-6-0-0.xr1.ams6.nl.uu.net [146.188.8.81]
13 183 ms 168 ms 158 ms pos1-0.gw5.ams6.nl.uu.net [146.188.4.6]
14 203 ms 256 ms 237 ms svianed-gw.customer.nl.uu.net [192.16.190.122]
15 204 ms 206 ms 219 ms vlan111.as01asd2.versatel.net [62.58.62.4]
16 276 ms 249 ms 359 ms 62.58.58.42
17 230 ms * 170 ms fiero.nl [62.58.51.78]

Trace complete.

[This message has been edited by Formula (edited 10-03-2001).]

Site is running like it's turbo charged tonight.

???

AC-1 and Yellow land in Bellport Station in Long Island and the circuits crossconnect at various points on LI into redundant metro fiber rings to reach NYC.

The only common CO with significant damage was the Verizon building at 140 West St. Mostly dialup and electrical end circuits (DS1/DS3) were affected. 60 Hudson, 25 Broadway, Broad St, and 100 Williams were on emergency power for a few days but experienced no significant damage. 32 Old Slip had problems with airborne particles clogging the generator intakes but they were operational within 48 hours. 111 8th Ave and Weehawken NJ facilities were undamaged and did not lose grid power at any time.

There was minimal damage to equipment and transatlantic capability was marginally effected. The bigger problem was due to the huge jump in traffic both within the US and between the US and Europe from September 12-14, and the only significant effect still being felt are the number of electrical (dialup/T1/T3) circuits from COs to customer/end user locations that are still out in Manhattan, both by Verizon and Worldcom.

Any dialup user who uses a Windows machine and feels they are having network-related performance problems needs to verify that they aren't infected with the nimda virus. If your machine is infected it will be probing for other hosts to infect via its dialup interface. A significant percentage of the probes I had been seeing were originating from machines using IP addresses from within known dialup netblocks.

quote Originally posted by Cliff Pennock: Nope. No problems here. Be aware though that at this moment, a lot of internet connections are extremely slow due to a number of reasons. First of all, there is of course what happened on 9/11. A few very important routers that take care of translatlantic connection were taken down also. The other thing is the Nimda virus that is slowing down a lot of ISPs at the moment. If your ISP is using Windows NT servers, chances are high they are suffering one way or the other from the Nimda virus. Next time when the connection is slow, do a traceroute by opening a DOS-box (if you are running WinMe, just choose Start -> Run and type "Command"), and type: tracert www.fiero.nl. It'll give you an overview of the time it takes for a packet of data to travel to and from my server as well as all routers in between. It'll tell you where the problem is exactly. Other than that, the forum can be slow because I've noticed that some people start like 6 searches all at once, which [b]will slow down the forum a bit. But this happens only rarely and will not last longer than a few minutes. [This message has been edited by Cliff Pennock (edited 10-03-2001).][/B]

quote Originally posted by LarryB: ???

Well, that was what I was told.

I use the forum at work on a dsl line and at home on a dial-up and have had no problems with speed either place. I dunno why I am immune to the slow rate bug, but all is good for me!

Well with the recent rash of viruses out there that propogate via tcp/ip like the namda and code red variations are causing a crapload of traffic on the internet. I've noticed since the first outbrake of code red my comcast cable connection has not been the same and it just keeps getting worse. I must get hit with 10 http attacks a minute on my server, compaired to 1 every few weeks prior to code red.

seems good from this part of the country.. I havent noticed anything wrong with the speed lately..

quote Originally posted by 84Bill: I must get hit with 10 http attacks a minute on my server, compaired to 1 every few weeks prior to code red.

Same here.

whole internet is getting slower and slower, expecially when you do 'upgrades' (joke) my web tv barely if ever works anymore. and if you think its slow here, try yahoo.