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How accurate is this crappy document? by chriswf
Started on: 07-18-2011 09:54 PM
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Last post by: weaselbeak on 07-19-2011 01:25 PM
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Report this Post07-18-2011 09:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for chriswfClick Here to Email chriswfSend a Private Message to chriswfDirect Link to This Post
http://www.nytimes.com/1990...ing-fire-hazard.html

Did any of it ever even happen?
Was it really 1 in 400 fieros?
And I thought it was the v6, not the 4 cyl.

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Report this Post07-18-2011 10:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TopNotchClick Here to visit TopNotch's HomePageSend a Private Message to TopNotchDirect Link to This Post
Actually, I think it was less than 400 total.
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The 84 Fieros had the fire issues. They recalled all the cars to remove the rubber weather strip. By doing that, now the water drips on the spark plugs on the firewayy side making it such a joy to remove plugs corroded in place today.
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my brother had a 85 gt burst into flames.
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Report this Post07-18-2011 11:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for AusFieroClick Here to visit AusFiero's HomePageClick Here to Email AusFieroSend a Private Message to AusFieroDirect Link to This Post
Not an entirely truthful article
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I have heard there was a recall for bad connecting rods as well, but nothing suggests the recalls or fires had anything to do with killing the car, other than public opinion may have diminished and contributed to lower sales.
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Report this Post07-19-2011 08:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderDirect Link to This Post
the article skips a lot of the detail and timing. It also fails to mention that it wasn't just Fiero '84 engines, it was other 2.5l engines in other GM cars that were recalled because of connecting rod issues.

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Report this Post07-19-2011 09:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageClick Here to Email fierosoundSend a Private Message to fierosoundDirect Link to This Post
The truth is that NHTSA received reports of 148 engine fires, and Pontiac had 260 complaints (which includes those same 148).

Decent article here: http://ateupwithmotor.com/s...1-pontiac-fiero.html

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Originally posted by Formula88:

I have heard there was a recall for bad connecting rods as well, but nothing suggests the recalls or fires had anything to do with killing the car, other than public opinion may have diminished and contributed to lower sales.


The fire issue was all fixed before the car was killed.....just some lingering memories that may have prevented some people from buying. Back in 1988 there were 2 big development issues with the Fiero. One was the new body and drivetrain that the Corvette people were worried about (because it was too good), and the other was AIRBAGS. They had to have airbags going forward and the development costs for a new chassis were extremely high. Other cars used a shared platform, but the Fiero, all by itself, had to support the development costs, crash tests, government compliance...etc..etc...etc. They probably were also worried about getting the mid-engine layout to pass the tests at all. This meant the steel spaceframe had to be changed and the sales volume for 1988 was under 30,000 units. The decision to stop production was probably pretty easy for the bean counters.
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Report this Post07-19-2011 12:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rambozotheclownClick Here to Email rambozotheclownSend a Private Message to rambozotheclownDirect Link to This Post
 
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...partly because the consumer advocate Ralph Nader...

I've not heard this, but I have heard that he's also responsible for the death of the Corvair. He must not like Porsches either, considering their drivetrain layout.. lol

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Originally posted by rambozotheclown:

I've not heard this, but I have heard that he's also responsible for the death of the Corvair. He must not like Porsches either, considering their drivetrain layout.. lol



Actually, the Corvair had a pretty decent run, 9 years. GM kept it around longer because of Nader. It was killed because it was expensive to make in it's class.

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