This isnt a request for sympathy or an excuse but more of an explination. I know ive had some repetitive and odd posts on here sometimes and have been chastised some for it but being a disabled vet of the lovely country of Viet Nam with basically no colon due to a wayward AK round and a 19 year old boy with non-hodjkins lymphoma just did a 5 week stint in Riley Childrens Hospital in Indianapolis and just had to put mom in nursing home due to dementia (sic) all the medication i take i get a little confused at times and i apologize for that. I have a nice indy and without some of your help i.e. Rick Borecky and others I'd probably have to junk it. It needs a little work and paint and being on a fixed income and pretty much on my own it gets a little tough without you guys help. I know a lot of you have it worse off than I and i totally sympathize with you and if you would rather me not post on here anymore I will honor that request. Again not an excuse just wanted you to know where im coming from and thanks for all your help so far. Dan

Dan,
Post all you want. I've got your six. At least till they take me out.

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Ron

Dan,

First of all, thank you from the bottom of my heart for your service to this great country of ours.
I am sorry to hear of your injury in Vietnam, and thankful that you are still with us.

I am sorry to hear of the health issues with your son and mother. I can't say that I know what you are going through on those fronts, but I can say that you are in my prayers.

Each and every one of us on this forum are different. It is these differences that make our small community a family.
Sometimes we don't always get along, but in many cases, just like a real family, we can learn to forgive and move on.

I have not seen any of the posts that you have made that you appear to be concerned with. But, please note that everyone has their moments.

We all share a common interest in the Fiero, and you are an active owner with your Indy. Even if it needs work, it is still your baby. Take care of it and please, don't ever hesitate to ask for help on here. We are always willing to help our "family" out.

I do not see any reason that you need to apologize. Just kick back, relax, pull up a chair and pop open a cold one.

Chris

Dude,
Stick around and god bless you for your service.... No Apology necessary, altho not sure what it is you are apparently apologizing for. No matter, welcome!! peace

Pete

Dan, from one disabled vet to another - - - keep your eyes open and be ready to DUCK!!

One day at a time with the bad comes good!!

Need help and advice we're all here for ya!

One day to another is just so darn confusing anyway . . . .

Had some trouble trying to explain spider cracks on my bumper on the tech board a week or so ago and some people seemed to take offense to it didnt do it intentionally just didnt know how to get it right. Thanks alot Dan

Dan,

Thank you for your service
Don't let em get you down man stay with us

Thanks for your service Dan and God bless you. I served during Vietnam and think often of you guys that were in-country. Don't let the nit pickers on the internet get you down. You have no call to apologize.

Larry

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"Life is short. Drink the good wine first"

Dan,
Just ignore the small number if intolerant people here. (There are a few self appointed critics. They are usually noobs, and are way more disagreeable than the people they choose to pick on.)

Dementia is a horrible thing. My wife's dad (and his whole family) went through that. I offer you my sympathy.
I wish you and your family well, and I think you for your service.

Your Indy? Heck, Fieros - all Fieros - are works in progress. You're in good company.
(Rick is a good guy. He put a friend of mine on the trail of a really nice SE.)

I'm a Vietnam era vet as well. And I've noticed that somethings haven't changed in the 40 plus years that have passed. In any group, forum, platoon or company there will always be those who will jump at the chance to put someone down. They never take the time nor do they have the patience to try to understand what someone is trying to say. If you have sincerely tried to post something and one of those narrow minded know it all's can't figure it out; it's their problem not yours. They owe you an apology not the other way around. You know as well as I do: what goes round, comes around. You'll continue to get help and good advice and those others just might be lead in other directions.

Hang in here with us Dan. There are some people that are not very tolerant of those of us that are different from them. That is their problem, however vocal they are, it is still their problem. Don't let them make it your problem.

I have seen some people on here that are a bit rude and like to point out the fault in others. It makes them feel superior, like they have no faults. But, everyone has faults! Don't engage with them.

I have not seem any examples of anyplace where you have been out of line, but I'm not on here all the time. However, with the statement you made in this post I cannot see how you could be bad enough to be asked to leave this message board.

As a fellow disabled Vietnam era vet, I ask you to hang in here with us. We need you. Just ignore the haters and pay attention to us lovers.

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Jim Martin
White '86 GT
California

I don't know any of the history of your posts, but don't ever let anyone run you off of this forum. If people are pissed because you are straightforward, don't bend yourself to conform to what they want. Be who you are. I catch **** many times with how blunt and ignorant I can be. But I'm me and I'm not changing for anyone.

I'm trying to figure out where this turned into a complete disaster. Here is what happened since I was involved in it:

There were 3 threads consecutively posted in tech about "spider cracks" in the front bumper. Then a 4th one appeared within a short period of time asking the same question. One of the other members made a comment of "THREE threads asking the SAME question" and I replied "No, this is the 4th thread in 9 days". I then asked "Not to be rude but Dan are you ok?" That was that last post in the thread.


Thats it. No insults no remarks. I appologized to Dan via PM earlier today. Now unless some other guys really PM'd crap to him and REALLY gave him a hard time, I'm stumped that this escalated to this level.

quote Originally posted by IMSA GT: I'm trying to figure out where this turned into a complete disaster. Here is what happened since I was involved in it: There were 3 threads consecutively posted in tech about "spider cracks" in the front bumper. Then a 4th one appeared within a short period of time asking the same question. One of the other members made a comment of "THREE threads asking the SAME question" and I replied "No, this is the 4th thread in 9 days". I then asked "Not to be rude but Dan are you ok?" That was that last post in the thread. Thats it. No insults no remarks. I appologized to Dan via PM earlier today. Now unless some other guys really PM'd crap to him and REALLY gave him a hard time, I'm stumped that this escalated to this level.

I don't have a clue where it came from but, I do know that many times posts are mis-intrepreted. This could be the case or not. Regardless, I've seen too many folks run off this forum because they didn't understand how things work. If I could suggest anything, it would be that Cliff change the rating system so that it shows when you get rated by someone and not hold off until the are fifty votes. I'm not saying this is a factor in this case but, obviously some posts get intrepreted as an attack when they aren't intended that way.


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Hey Dan - there's strength in numbers - "we need you as much as you need us"! Stick around, show us some pics of your car and post away!

Thanks so much for your service and sacrifice!

Pat

Sorry to hear about your hardships. The last couple years seems to be full of them. There are a few rules to live by on a forum. #1 Don't post anything you don't want your entire family to read. #2 When someone insults you in anyway... it's their own insecurity. If you feel insulted.. It's your own. #3 Enjoy, don't let a few ruin a passion.

quote Originally posted by IMSA GT: There were 3 threads consecutively posted in tech about "spider cracks" in the front bumper. Then a 4th one appeared within a short period of time asking the same question.

Can I be the fifth? Got spider cracks in the front fascia, hood and decklid. Can you help?

Stu

Spidercracks--that's nothin.

An animal ate my headlight doors----while they were on the car.

Stick around Dan. But watch out for blackrams. Yeah,, he's got your six-- He'll take your can of peaches and slip in a can of ham and MFs.

Where were ya Dan--and when? There's a few of us here--from the old days. Me, Wolfhound, Old Lars, Starlightcoupe, Uhlanstan--a couple more I can't remember right off. Ya wanna talk, PM me, or we can open a RVN thread in OT.

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Thanks everyone maybe I overreacted but I sometimes do. Have a couple of questions if you dont mind. Had to let car sit in dads barn for 12 years due to lack of funds. Got it out last year and had the usual mouse pee smell is there any harm in taking to car wash and doing the front trunk a going over will it hurt any electronics ie head light motors and can i spray something in vents to help. Also because of my HUGE government monthly check cant afford new decals is there a way to cover them and paint over them. Again didnt mean to affend anyone just wanted to let you know if i leave a rather off the wall post its not intentional and i know i need to learn to spell better. Thanks for your time, Dan

You could probably get something from a pet store that cleans and deodorizes

I just pressure washed both my 86 Sport and my 86 GT's front trunk area and had absolutely no problems. I had to wash both of them due to the pollen in Georgia that seems into the front and rear trunk area.

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86 Fiero 2M4 Silver, and 86 GT

If it's been that long in the barn and you have mice pee, pull out the heater fan motor and the resistor that is nearby and clean them.
I bet you have a mouse nest in there too.

there are a few of us disabled on the forum i have end stage liver disease and one of the symptomsis the liver doesent filter the poisons and they go to the brain making me forgetful,angry and disoriented so some times i repeat things,the people on this forum are great and helpful dont take all the remarks to heart thank you for serving from a navy vet just after vietnam war . keep your head up high and get your fiero back on the road

quote Originally posted by dan6752: Got it out last year and had the usual mouse pee smell is there any harm in taking to car wash and doing the front trunk a going over will it hurt any electronics ie head light motors and can i spray something in vents to help.

First of all thank you for your service and sacrifice. Welcome home brother.

You're going to have to pull the heater motor/squirrel cage out and get into the ducts and clean it all. Also toward the passenger side there is a 3 wire connector going into the duct. Take the screws out of the little panel where the connector is and clean out the nesting debris there. These are the heater motor resisitors and they get very hot. If there is combustable matterial against the resistors it will catch fire. Go to a pet supply place and get some stuff to control the odor. If the mice used the squirrel cage for their potty room you may have to replace it. That stuff gets into the metal and is hard to clean. If the mice travel all through the heater system you may eventually have to pull out the heater core to clean the rest of the duct work.

If you have AC all this is a little more difficult. If you have a sunroof you'll have to take the plastic tray above the heater/AC equipment off (just 3 screws).

When you wash the front trunk try not to spray water directly on the heater motor or where the heater hoses go through the firewall. If you lift your spare tire out there should be a little drain hole at the bottom of the tub. Make sure it's not plugged with debris or mud dobber nest. I wouldn't use high pressure around the brake master cylinder cover or where the brake / clutch rods go through the floor.

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quote Originally posted by dan6752: Got it out last year and had the usual mouse pee smell is there any harm in taking to car wash and doing the front trunk a going over will it hurt any electronics ie head light motors and can i spray something in vents to help.

I would recommend trying some of the many pet enzyme urine removal products that are sold at most pet stores, drug stores, and department stores.

I might help to use a black light (ultraviolet light) to find exactly where the urine is so you can hit it directly with the enzymes. Most pet stores sell a black light for that purpose.

I've had 4 Fiero's. Every one of them has had a mouse nest under the center console & where the shifter is.
I also suggest getting a bottle of the enzyme that kills pet odors. Works well.

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86 GT
87 coupe restoration project.

quote Originally posted by maryjane: Stick around Dan. But watch out for blackrams. Yeah,, he's got your six-- He'll take your can of peaches and slip in a can of ham and MFs.

Now really, was that necessary. Borrow one can of peaches and get dogged for life.

Besides, it wasn't ham and MFs, is was S.O.S.

As I said previously Dan, stick around. MJ is one of the good guys, I don't care what he eats.

Dan, just where in Indy are you located? I get up that way now and then and would love to break bread or just have a Coke with ya.
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Dan, I understand at least a bit of what you're going through...my son battled Hodgkin's Lymphoma twice within two years, and I know the toll it takes on a parent. I also watched my grandmother slip away due to Alzheimer's...but I didn't have to deal with both at the same time like you have. I salute you for holding it all together as you have...

Stick around...by far and large, most of the people here are ready and willing to help out a fellow Fiero owner. I think that you'll find that just about everyone, when they know your backstory, will be patient and help you get things straightened out with your Indy and get you back on the road again. As for me....I'll just say "Welcome, Dan, I'm glad you're here".

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"Sucks to be me..."

quote Originally posted by dan6752: Thanks everyone maybe I overreacted but I sometimes do. Have a couple of questions if you dont mind. Had to let car sit in dads barn for 12 years due to lack of funds. Got it out last year and had the usual mouse pee smell is there any harm in taking to car wash and doing the front trunk a going over will it hurt any electronics ie head light motors and can i spray something in vents to help. Also because of my HUGE government monthly check cant afford new decals is there a way to cover them and paint over them. Again didnt mean to affend anyone just wanted to let you know if i leave a rather off the wall post its not intentional and i know i need to learn to spell better. Thanks for your time, Dan

Don't paint over the decals--I think I know where a set can be found. I'll have to look for em tho.
Headlight motors are pretty much sealed as long as you don't just go overboard spraying around them.

Any chance you can get some pics up of the Indy?
And, if you haven't already, send the vin# to the Fiero pacecar guy--I forget who is keeping the known vin# list now.

quote Originally posted by dan6752: Thanks everyone maybe I overreacted but I sometimes do. Have a couple of questions if you dont mind. Had to let car sit in dads barn for 12 years due to lack of funds. Got it out last year and had the usual mouse pee smell is there any harm in taking to car wash and doing the front trunk a going over will it hurt any electronics ie head light motors and can i spray something in vents to help. Also because of my HUGE government monthly check cant afford new decals is there a way to cover them and paint over them. Again didnt mean to affend anyone just wanted to let you know if i leave a rather off the wall post its not intentional and i know i need to learn to spell better. Thanks for your time, Dan

Thank you for your service. Stick around. This place is as addicting as the cars it was created to discuss.

quote Originally posted by dan6752: Had some trouble trying to explain spider cracks on my bumper on the tech board a week or so ago and some people seemed to take offense to it didnt do it intentionally just didnt know how to get it right. Thanks alot Dan

Dan,
There is a real possibility I'll be in the Indy area in the next month or so. I'd like to see that Fiero, I think I know where you can get some parts, that assumes you need the parts I know of being available. We could meet up with a few other Fiero enthusist in the area for a cold one. Mine will be non-alcoholic but suit yourself.

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Ron