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Never heard that one before by indyguy
Started on: 06-15-2011 07:47 PM
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Report this Post06-15-2011 07:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for indyguyClick Here to Email indyguySend a Private Message to indyguyDirect Link to This Post
The mera is the reason they killed the fiero line off huh?? Lol I hear different stories all the time about Fieros lol

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Report this Post06-15-2011 08:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IFLYR22Click Here to Email IFLYR22Send a Private Message to IFLYR22Direct Link to This Post
That's a new one. I have heard from a salvage yard owner that the fiero was actually designed by Ferrari, but not that it was the reason it is no longer produced.

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Report this Post06-16-2011 12:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 87GreenGTClick Here to Email 87GreenGTSend a Private Message to 87GreenGTDirect Link to This Post
magnum PI had a real Ferarri, lol
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Report this Post06-16-2011 12:19 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 88RedFormulaClick Here to Email 88RedFormulaSend a Private Message to 88RedFormulaDirect Link to This Post
Southwest Iowa eh? I doubt that very much.
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Report this Post06-16-2011 11:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManClick Here to Email JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
I heard the real reason(s) from Hulki himself at the 20th, and Parki as well...
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Report this Post06-16-2011 12:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by JazzMan:

I heard the real reason(s) from Hulki himself at the 20th, and Parki as well...


We'd all love it if you would share..
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Report this Post06-16-2011 12:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Arizona85GTClick Here to Email Arizona85GTSend a Private Message to Arizona85GTDirect Link to This Post
The Fiero was gonna tarnish the Corvette's reputation. GM couldn't allow that, pulled the plug.
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Report this Post06-16-2011 12:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for etofunClick Here to Email etofunSend a Private Message to etofunDirect Link to This Post
i heard from a guy who heard from a guy who was on the corvette team that the fiero was a test towards making a mid engine corvette
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Originally posted by Arizona85GT:

The Fiero was gonna tarnish the Corvette's reputation. GM couldn't allow that, pulled the plug.


Let's all agree to use this regardless of accuracy.

edit for disclaimer: I am not arguing for or against this comment. I just like it.

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Report this Post06-16-2011 02:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroG97JClick Here to Email FieroG97JSend a Private Message to FieroG97JDirect Link to This Post
That must have been Hulkli Johnson talking
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Report this Post06-17-2011 12:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BlackGT CoddeClick Here to Email BlackGT CoddeSend a Private Message to BlackGT CoddeDirect Link to This Post
"i reject your reality and substitute my own!"
"The Fiero was gonna tarnish the Corvette's reputation. GM couldn't allow that, pulled the plug."

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Report this Post06-17-2011 12:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroBoboClick Here to Email FieroBoboSend a Private Message to FieroBoboDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by JazzMan:

I heard the real reason(s) from Hulki himself at the 20th, and Parki as well...

I have to agree with 2.5 (above).
I too would love to hear this story as well.
Please share. Pretty Please??

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Originally posted by etofun:

i heard from a guy who heard from a guy who was on the corvette team that the fiero was a test towards making a mid engine corvette


I like this reason the best
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Originally posted by BlackGT Codde:

"i reject your reality and substitute my own!"
"The Fiero was gonna tarnish the Corvette's reputation. GM couldn't allow that, pulled the plug."



According to Alexander Pope: "tis with our judgments as our watches, none go just alike yet each believes his own"
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Report this Post06-17-2011 03:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Old LarSend a Private Message to Old LarDirect Link to This Post
It was stopped because the car did not meet sales goals. The bad reputation of fires (and manufacturing defects with the duke) with the 84s tarnished the cars reputation. Pontiac (GM) pulled the advertising budget for the 88s and the under utilization of the manufacturing equipment at the plant. There was no other car in the line that could use the equipment that built the Fiero. Although some of that mill & drill equipment went to Saturn whose demise was last year. The execs at GM (bean counters) determined that the Diawoo Lemans was to be the next commuter car and there was limited demand for a two seater car (except for Corvette) then the Miata demonstrated the GM execs were wrong again.
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Report this Post06-17-2011 04:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for katatakSend a Private Message to katatakDirect Link to This Post
I read this add the other night - I am/was (sitting in the airport heading home at the moment) in Omaha for business. I sent the guy an email - asking a few questions - he does not know what he has and I question as to whether it is really a Mera or one of the other kits. I asked for pics - and got none.
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It always amazes me that senior management at large companies think they can cut back on development resources and then when whatever it is comes out the door and flops because of the shortcuts taken by the engineers because of those enforced cutbacks, they blame everyone except themselves (probably still get the big bonus!). Not just the car industry, many are like that I think, even today.
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Originally posted by Old Lar:

It was stopped because the car did not meet sales goals. The bad reputation of fires (and manufacturing defects with the duke) with the 84s tarnished the cars reputation. Pontiac (GM) pulled the advertising budget for the 88s and the under utilization of the manufacturing equipment at the plant. There was no other car in the line that could use the equipment that built the Fiero. Although some of that mill & drill equipment went to Saturn whose demise was last year. The execs at GM (bean counters) determined that the Diawoo Lemans was to be the next commuter car and there was limited demand for a two seater car (except for Corvette) then the Miata demonstrated the GM execs were wrong again.


At the same time the lying mother(bleepers) at GM hq were saying that the market could not support 2-seaters, they were rolling out the Reatta and the Cad Allante. If you can get a copy of Witzenburgs book on the Fiero, it is a must read. In the case of the Miata, GM said you couldn't build a convert that would sell. Is it any wonder that the idiots all went under.?
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Originally posted by 87GreenGT:

magnum PI had a real Ferarri, lol

and a fiero for a dirt road episode.
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Report this Post06-19-2011 02:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ron768Click Here to Email ron768Send a Private Message to ron768Direct Link to This Post
I have read somewhere that the Fiero was killed because of 1. cost of insurance. 2. Competition with the vette. 3. shrinking market share. 4. gm had signed a engineering agreement with Toyota that required the Fiero to go away. Take your choice as we will never hear the truth from those who made that decision.
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Originally posted by 2.5:


We'd all love it if you would share..


Buy the DVD of the 25'th and hear from them directly in the extra video of the talks! I still have tons of them left... $25.00 shipped. PM me if interested.
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Originally posted by Old Lar:

There was no other car in the line that could use the equipment that built the Fiero. Although some of that mill & drill equipment went to Saturn whose demise was last year.


Actually they only sent one mill and drill to Saturn for the SL series. The other two were used by GM to make the minivans. The Trans Sport, Stilletto, and Lumina APV used the same mill & drill set-ups as the Fiero. They all had plastic panels until 1998. Then the mill/drill's for the vans were sent to saturn to use in the LS series and the first Vue SUV's. When it became too costly to maintain the 20 year old machines Saturn started to convert back to metal panels like all the other GM cars.
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Report this Post06-20-2011 10:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for jaskispyderSend a Private Message to jaskispyderDirect Link to This Post
Funny.... even at 20,000 cars/year, I would think that in '88, the Fiero was doing well. It just needed an update to continue to sell. The APV vans could have been added to the line, as could have other cars, but someone really didn't want the Fiero to continue...
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Report this Post06-21-2011 10:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroG97JClick Here to Email FieroG97JSend a Private Message to FieroG97JDirect Link to This Post
If you guys would read the book by Gary W. you would get your answers. PMD spent something like $60 million to retool the 88 suspension. Did anyone get canned for doing something that stupid for a dead car? I doubt it.
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