With only 44k on the clock, I serously doubt it was driven much in the winter! Looks to be in very nice shape. Wish it was closer - I'd really like to see it in person.
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Frizlefrak Member
Posts: 2921 From: El Paso, Texas Registered: Aug 2003
If it is non-rusty, the price is right. There are three of those beasts in my area. One sold a few months back for about $25K. It had 4K miles on it and looks like new....it was at a dealer north of Seattle. There is one at the LeMay car museum in Tacoma, WA.
The Zimmers had either wire wheels or wire wheel covers (do not remember which) with Zimmer logos.
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Dennis LaGrua Member
Posts: 15145 From: Hillsborough, NJ U.S.A. Registered: May 2000
I believe that the big car image that the Zimmer brings forth is directly contrary to what a Fiero is all about. Its like putting a Chrysler 300 body on a Porsche. At best this car is a curiosity. I like big cars and my daily driver is a Chrysler 300 but to drive a big wide 3600 lb Fiero is IMO pointless.
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matchmade Member
Posts: 435 From: Nashville,TN USA Registered: Sep 2004
I believe that the big car image that the Zimmer brings forth is directly contrary to what a Fiero is all about.
You are completely missing the point of the Zimmer Quicksilver. By the way. Zimmer is the name of the manufacturer, and the car is called the Quicksilver. Zimmer Motor cars is still in business today.
The manufacturers of the Quicksilver were not trying to make a Fiero rebody...they were making a unique car and just happened to use a Fiero space frame because there are not that many other cars out there, (if any) with a space frame.
The Quicksilver has several cool features that a stock Fiero doesn't have like:
* Power steering * large carpeted front trunk * separate motor cover so you can open rear trunk without dumping water on your exhaust manifold * glove compartment * full leather interior * not to mention chrome bumpers
I'm not saying the Zimmer Quicksilver is for everyone, but to say it's not in the spirit of the Fiero doesn't make any sense. It's not supposed to be like a Fiero. It's supposed to be what it looks like.
The Zimmer Golden Spirit is based off a Mustang... It is also very different from what a mustang is all about...
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Posts: 3914 From: El Paso, TX. Registered: Aug 2001
[quote]You are completely missing the point of the Zimmer Quicksilver.{/quote]
I guess I am!
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
[quote]You are completely missing the point of the Zimmer Quicksilver.{/quote]
I guess I am!
Zimmer doesn't make Quicksilvers anymore, but from their current website, their description of the point of a Zimmer is well explained.
Why Drive a Zimmer?
When looking at a 1920s or '30s classic Duesenberg, most people just love the design and style. Their mind is filled with visions of grace, grandeur and the Great Gatsby. They say, "What fun it would be to own and drive a motor car like that." Unfortunately, the realities of owning and driving a classic or antique motor car eliminate most people from ever bothering to purchase one.
The cost factor is not really the major deterrent. Although very rare classic motor cars can cost several millions of dollars, you can find nice classics in the $50,000 to $100,000 price range. But for most people, classic cars are still totally impractical. The lack of readily available parts and service is a major drawback. The lack of modern safety equipment is another problem. And let's face it, the old classics are not very comfortable to drive or ride in. Thus was born the neo-classic motor car (neo=new), the best of the old and the new together in one grand motor car: a match made in heaven.
The new ZIMMER® Golden Spirit is the finest neo-classic motor car ever manufactured. The exterior design is pure classic grandeur right out of the Great Gatsby era, handmade to the highest quality possible.
Underneath, it is all a brand new, modern Ford/Mustang or Lincoln Town Car base on the four-door sedan. You can drive into any Ford or Lincoln Mercury dealer and get full service, Ford parts and warranty work. It has all the latest safety and modern engineering features available. It's a joy to drive.
So, if you are ready for a motor car that is distinctive, that sets you apart from the "pack," that says, "I've arrived," that looks classic but is new and comfortable, a ZIMMER® Golden Spirit is for you. If you are a little tired of paying $75,000 to $150,000 for a car you can't find in a lot full of Fords and Chevies, then a ZIMMER® Golden Spirit is for you.
I was always fascinated by the Quicksilver. I can't say I love it but I don't hate it either.. It’s one of those special cars you appreciate for what they are. The price seems right for the car, I hope someone buys it and enjoys it, it's a nice piece of Fiero history. Too bad I'm poor because of my two Fiero's or else I would of considered it.
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VFR182 Member
Posts: 208 From: Central Kentucky Registered: Sep 2006
interesting, thought i had seen all the fiero based vehicles. cool. looks like something from a blacksploitation film from the late 60's, i half expected superfly to be stepping out of it. very throwback.
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
cool. looks like something from a blacksploitation film from the late 60's, i half expected superfly to be stepping out of it. very throwback.
I think that's what they were going for... in the late 80s they were building a retro late 60s, early 70s looking car.
Given that the Fiero itself is now retro, I like the idea of a retro 70s body kit. I wouldn't mind owning a Quicksilver one day. I saw one in Daytona that had a 4.9 installed. I bet that restored a lot of the sportiness to the car.
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Tom Slick Member
Posts: 4342 From: Alvarado, TX Registered: May 2003
does anybody know the breakdown of how many were sold for each year availble?
is there a Zimmer Quicksilver registry?
i would buy that ZQ in a hearbeat but i'm scared of it because of possible rust issues being a michgan car and not being able to check it out in person. someone want to buy my '88 T-Top Formula so i can get the ZQ.
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jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
I can't find a breakdown by year, but most estimates are that only 170 Quicksilvers were built. That makes them fairly rare, even more than the Mera.
The current Zimmer club is reported to have 30 Quicksilver members. Interestingly they sold for $55K which is a lot now, but according to the inflation calculator, that is $98,465.30 in 2009 dollars. That's in Corvette ZR-1 territory.
Zimmer has since taken down their page on the Quicksilver, but here's a snapshot of it from a Fiero club
I hate to admit I've always liked the Quicksilver.
I had an opportunity to drive one about 3 years ago and was impressed with what they did to "tame" the wild Fiero. The power steering is what I remember most about it. In fact, the owner went the complete "Cadillac" route with it, removing all of the Zimmer badges (replacing them, the trunk lock & the hood ornament with Caddy stuff), swapping out the steering wheel (the air bag was inop) and seats with power ones from a Catera (that's where I got the idea for my car) and adding 17" chrome wheels from a STS (he said he had adapters made.) Looked real nice, like GM sold it as a Cadillac..... I wouldn't trade my GT for it, though.
The fact is the Quicksilver was not intended to drive or look like a stock Fiero. If I had one, I think it would take me a week before I was thinking about a 3800SC or N* swap.
Nice of that dealer in St.Louis to throw a cheep set of mags on it and then list the original wheels for sale separately for $750.00. No wonder used car dealers get a bad rap, some deserve it!
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Tom Slick Member
Posts: 4342 From: Alvarado, TX Registered: May 2003
Saw a Zimmer Quicksilver in the Villas NJ (near Cape May) WaWa parking lot last week. It looked pretty beat up but it was still running. A girl was driving it but I did not get a chance to speak with her. If anything that car is certainly a curosity piece. Its larger than a modern day Cadillac.
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Rick 88 Member
Posts: 3914 From: El Paso, TX. Registered: Aug 2001
I can't find a breakdown by year, but most estimates are that only 170 Quicksilvers were built. That makes them fairly rare, even more than the Mera.
The current Zimmer club is reported to have 30 Quicksilver members. Interestingly they sold for $55K which is a lot now, but according to the inflation calculator, that is $98,465.30 in 2009 dollars. That's in Corvette ZR-1 territory.
Zimmer has since taken down their page on the Quicksilver, but here's a snapshot of it from a Fiero club
This car looks much better with the stock wire wheels. I really like the bumper treatment. The interior was pretty "fly" too. All I need is my "Huggy Bear" outfit!!
I just saw $55k new! Is that correct? Shoot, Meras were cheap at under $30k new.
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Jul 28th, 2010
jscott1 Member
Posts: 21676 From: Houston, TX , USA Registered: Dec 2001
I just saw $55k new! Is that correct? Shoot, Meras were cheap at under $30k new.
Yes, in 1986-ish $55K was a lot of cash. Zimmer was going for the exclusive hand built car crowd. Not the kit car or rebody route. That could also explain why only 170 were sold.
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Aug 11th, 2010
fourpoint9 Member
Posts: 1058 From: Long Beach, WA, USA Registered: Feb 2004
i had one out for a test drive in Palm Springs. No one mentioned it, but it has a chassis stretch. To me, it felt like it had a nice, smooth ride and also felt like a much bigger car. Does the dash look like it came from a ford or mercury car (like a 70s mustang II or a capri) ?
Jon, in case you haven't seen it, the link to the LA Zimmer posted above includes pics of the power steering in the engine compartment.
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Gokart Mozart Member
Posts: 12143 From: Metro Detroit Registered: Mar 2003
I emailed the Golden Spirit Club and got this reply:
Hi Dan,
Thanks for your interest! We are not the original builders of Zimmers in the 1980s, and we only purchased the Golden Spirit, so we have little information on the Quicksilver. I do know that about 250 were built, I believe from 1984-1987, but that is about all I know of them. Also, unfortunately, the individuals we had contact with from the original Zimmer company are deceased, so there isn't anyone for me to refer me to.
I'm sorry I can't be of more assistance.
Sincerely, Ruth Zimmer Hendrick
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Terry_w Member
Posts: 930 From: Fort Worth,TX Registered: Sep 2008
Just another example of different taste. If the guy would deliver it to my house and give it to me for free (and I couldn't sell it ) I would say "no thanks!"
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Aug 13th, 2010
Australian Member
Posts: 4701 From: Sydney Australia Registered: Sep 2004
Just another example of different taste. If the guy would deliver it to my house and give it to me for free (and I couldn't sell it ) I would say "no thanks!"
Well It is deleted did anyone save a pic of the Boss Hogg fiero i didnt see it.
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fourpoint9 Member
Posts: 1058 From: Long Beach, WA, USA Registered: Feb 2004