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2010 Fiero GT, what it could have been... 3D modelling project by gh0st
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Report this Post07-04-2010 10:21 PM Click Here to See the Profile for gh0stClick Here to Email gh0stSend a Private Message to gh0stDirect Link to This Post
I got this idea when I read an article about a company who takes 2010 Camaros and modifies them to look like what a 2010 Trans Am would look like (seen below).



I starting thinking about how modern styling would look on our Fieros, so I made this sketch to get my ideas flowing.


(alot of the middle lines aren't dark enough to see, you might have to look at your screen from a different angle, I may have to go over all the lines in photoshop)

Now, this drawing is no master piece, there were alot of angles and styling ques I wasn't skilled enough to draw (hence the 3D model ). While I was drawing I looked and some Pontiacs from 2009, mainly the G8 GXP, and tried to include some lines and angles from those cars. Before I go to make my reference images for creating the model, what ideas do you guys have? What do you like or dislike or want to change or add?
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Report this Post07-04-2010 10:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IMSA GTClick Here to Email IMSA GTSend a Private Message to IMSA GTDirect Link to This Post
Still love the prototype from 89:

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Report this Post07-04-2010 10:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for gh0stClick Here to Email gh0stSend a Private Message to gh0stDirect Link to This Post
Eh, I just "okay". I think they kinda ditched some of the styling I favored most. It's almost like they tried to make it look too futuristic. The more I look at it the more I like it though, I will give it that.

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Report this Post07-04-2010 10:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for IMSA GTClick Here to Email IMSA GTSend a Private Message to IMSA GTDirect Link to This Post
Looks too much like a Camaro from the side....but they had the right idea with the 3.4 motor they installed
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Originally posted by IMSA GT:

Looks too much like a Camaro from the side....but they had the right idea with the 3.4 motor they installed


Had they made it for 1989, everyone would have said that the 93 Camaro looks too much like a Fiero from the side instead
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Report this Post07-05-2010 12:13 AM Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyBernieSend a Private Message to CrazyBernieDirect Link to This Post
 
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Before I go to make my reference images for creating the model, what ideas do you guys have? What do you like or dislike or want to change or add?


I would probably ditch the tip-up headlights... they're not really "2010"-ish. Maybe something similar to the Saturn Sky?

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Report this Post07-05-2010 11:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for aeffertzClick Here to Email aeffertzSend a Private Message to aeffertzDirect Link to This Post
Nice sketch, but looks just like a regular Fiero with a new front fascia and fender flares.

I'd say something like this if it ever happened...
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Report this Post07-05-2010 11:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for gh0stClick Here to Email gh0stSend a Private Message to gh0stDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by aeffertz:

Nice sketch, but looks just like a regular Fiero with a new front fascia and fender flares.

I'd say something like this if it ever happened...


I really like those Corvette style scoops, I'll add something like those but backwards.

I "tried" to include the body lines from the G8, but it just isn't a good enough drawing.



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Report this Post07-05-2010 02:44 PM Click Here to See the Profile for gh0stClick Here to Email gh0stSend a Private Message to gh0stDirect Link to This Post
Got the first side reference image done, well not done, still might change some stuff. You know what I mean.

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Report this Post07-05-2010 06:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for randyeClick Here to visit randye's HomePageClick Here to Email randyeSend a Private Message to randyeDirect Link to This Post
THIS:


is what keeps running through my addled brain regarding a "modern" approach to the Fiero.
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Originally posted by randye:

THIS:


is what keeps running through my addled brain regarding a "modern" approach to the Fiero.


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Report this Post07-05-2010 06:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jim94Click Here to Email jim94Send a Private Message to jim94Direct Link to This Post
if you build it the buyers will come . nice job, the best one i have seen yet. i love it
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Report this Post07-13-2010 06:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for gh0stClick Here to Email gh0stSend a Private Message to gh0stDirect Link to This Post
I got the front bumper and part of the fender done. What do you guys think? It still needs grills, lights, paint, the fiero emblem, ect. but all the detailing will be done after the car is complete and all the shapes are final. The shadowing is odd on some parts, I'll have to figure out how to fix that.





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Report this Post07-13-2010 06:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fourpoint9Click Here to Email fourpoint9Send a Private Message to fourpoint9Direct Link to This Post
What program are you using? Blender?
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Report this Post07-13-2010 06:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for gh0stClick Here to Email gh0stSend a Private Message to gh0stDirect Link to This Post
Yep, Blender 3D. This is my first time using it.
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Report this Post07-13-2010 07:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ALLTRBOSend a Private Message to ALLTRBODirect Link to This Post
Not to take away from the OP, but...





I'd own one.

Now ghOst, you have to get away from the 80's styling cues altogether to make a modern representation. I know you aren't finished with the model, but the sketches look like an existing Fiero with a couple mods. Also think about things like windshield angle and curvature, A pillar thickness, roof ditch thickness, etc.

As far as mods for existing Fieros are concerned, though, those sketches look pretty sweet!

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Report this Post07-13-2010 11:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for iluvsd619Click Here to Email iluvsd619Send a Private Message to iluvsd619Direct Link to This Post
I would buy a kit like that. That looks good.
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Originally posted by randye:

THIS:


is what keeps running through my addled brain regarding a "modern" approach to the Fiero.


That looks cool and everything but I really don't think a 2010 fiero would look like that.. That just looks like a lambo with a couple fiero features like the quarter windows and front bumper... I think the 2010 fiero would look more like the 2010 camaro or a end model g6 or sky. gotta remember the fiero wasn't made to be a supercar or anything, just a econo-sports car
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I would think it would be somthing that would have replaced the 4th gen trans am body wise. Exotic looking but with american power.
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Originally posted by HausFiero:


That looks cool and everything but I really don't think a 2010 fiero would look like that.. That just looks like a lambo with a couple fiero features like the quarter windows and front bumper... I think the 2010 fiero would look more like the 2010 camaro or a end model g6 or sky. gotta remember the fiero wasn't made to be a supercar or anything, just a econo-sports car


True, but in '88 they were starting to take it into the sport commuter market, and didn't the '90 concept have a SBC in it? That's awful sporty for an econo/commuter. With the models being presented, it's hard to imagine some being mid-engine. If it were me and I had any artistic ability, since it started the move to sports car performance, I would make it a sports car and design it around it being mid-engine and show it off. Just my $.02
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Report this Post07-14-2010 12:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for HausFieroSend a Private Message to HausFieroDirect Link to This Post
I hear ya

as for the '90 prototype, I thought it had the 3.4 tdc
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Originally posted by HausFiero:

I hear ya

as for the '90 prototype, I thought it had the 3.4 tdc


it was actualy a prototype of the 3.4, but in a 3.2L dohc version.
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Originally posted by randye:

THIS:


is what keeps running through my addled brain regarding a "modern" approach to the Fiero.


That is very nice... it is obviously pontaic with fiero fastback flair to it.
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Originally posted by HausFiero:
That looks cool and everything but I really don't think a 2010 fiero would look like that.. That just looks like a lambo with a couple fiero features like the quarter windows and front bumper... I think the 2010 fiero would look more like the 2010 camaro or a end model g6 or sky. gotta remember the fiero wasn't made to be a supercar or anything, just a econo-sports car


Originally it was sold as a commuter car, because GM wouldn't let the sports car roll through the line. Had the Fiero not been cancelled, who knows what it would be sold as today (or by the end of Pontiac). But GM has been consistently making bad decisions with the Pontiac brand, and hence lead to its demise. I'm pretty sure that if the Fiero had still been produced in 09, it would indeed have been an economy supercar, much like the Vette is.
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Updates...









The headlights would look good either way, set in or flip up... I might have to try both.

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dont forget all pontiacs have two openings on either side of the arrow head normally, thats the signature pontiac design
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Originally posted by Hockaday:

dont forget all pontiacs have two openings on either side of the arrow head normally, thats the signature pontiac design


I plan on making it like this:


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Report this Post10-29-2011 02:44 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AustralianClick Here to visit Australian's HomePageClick Here to Email AustralianSend a Private Message to AustralianDirect Link to This Post
It took an enthusist to make the first bodykit.
The fiero was a commuter car the Gt was adding sports styling.
If they were to continue to build a commuter car it wouldn't look like an exotic sports car.
Lamborghini was to make a concept commuter so it would look much like this

The fiero of 2011 would look like the above Suv not like the coupe it was or worse it will look like a smart car.
The other muscle cars eg Camero have also become more taller and boxy not low and wide.
If you thinking it would look like a exotic sports car in 2010 look around you every car is getting taller especially wagons and hatch backs. The 2010 fast back Mustang isn't exactly a low rider either. 2010 is not a good time for a re-release of a commuter car if they made no low power model and made only sports cars and marketed as sports cars only then may you see a low riding exotic.
Reality is cars are made taller and a commuter wouldn't ever be made as long or even to look cool in 2010.

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Wernt they going to name the solstice fiero?
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Originally posted by pontiackid86:

Wernt they going to name the solstice fiero?


god i hope not that would have been bad, a front engine remake of a mid engine car? YACK! altho i loved the solstice if i could get my hands on an SS id be in heaven but fat chance of that they prolly go for 15k with 65k miles on them
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Not drawing it. Im building my version of it with LS4 option here http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000126.html
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Originally posted by Australian:
It took an enthusist to make the first bodykit.
The fiero was a commuter car the Gt was adding sports styling.
If they were to continue to build a commuter car it wouldn't look like an exotic sports car.


The Fiero was only a commuter car, so that they could get it on the market. They always wanted it to be a sports car. And in that last 25 years before the demise of Pontiac all together, and given that they built the Kappa platform, I think it's pretty safe to assume that if they had brought back the Fiero instead of building the Kappa, it would have been a proper sports car.
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Originally posted by Niterrorz:


god i hope not that would have been bad, a front engine remake of a mid engine car? YACK! altho i loved the solstice if i could get my hands on an SS id be in heaven but fat chance of that they prolly go for 15k with 65k miles on them

Not always.. I got mine.. Its not a GXP but i got mine with 28K on it with everything but XM and onstart for $11K
The time to buy them is in the winter cuz in the summer there prices sky rocket.
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