My Fiero is mine not the property of some corrupt government bureaucrat who is interested in exercising more government control over our lives so that they can stuff their pockets with money. I paid for my car with my money and its my property. As long as I am a peaceful citizen I'll do what I please with it. They can kiss my ass
------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
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Daredevil05 Member
Posts: 2345 From: South Jersey 08077 Registered: Oct 2006
My Fiero is mine not the property of some corrupt government bureaucrat who is interested in exercising more government control over our lives so that they can stuff their pockets with money. I paid for my car with my money and its my property. As long as I am a peaceful citizen I'll do what I please with it. They can kiss my ass
Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua: My Fiero is mine not the property of some corrupt government bureaucrat who is interested in exercising more government control over our lives so that they can stuff their pockets with money. I paid for my car with my money and its my property. As long as I am a peaceful citizen I'll do what I please with it. They can kiss my ass
I'm sorry but you did not pay for the air that I or the other 6 billion people on this planet breathe. You don't own the roadways, the air, the trees, the mountains. Your life and that of your car are not immutable. The laws aren't perfect, but neither are you. It has nothing to do with government control over your life. I'm sure the tin foil headliner in your Fiero protects you from that very well.
My Fiero is mine not the property of some corrupt government bureaucrat who is interested in exercising more government control over our lives so that they can stuff their pockets with money. I paid for my car with my money and its my property. As long as I am a peaceful citizen I'll do what I please with it. They can kiss my ass
This is exactley what I'm saying. I think emmission's BS is exactley what i said BS PA wants to fail you because your getting 10MPG when your suposed to be getting 20 MPG personaly i think this is there way of phasing out pre OBD2 cars.
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Marvin McInnis Member
Posts: 11599 From: ~ Kansas City, USA Registered: Apr 2002
Classy, Dennis, real classy. Sigh. (I know. You don't care, etc., etc.)
When it comes to your driving freedom; if you want to get down and lick the boots of corrupt elected officials that give our tax money to their criminal friends on Wall Street and those that hire even more corrupt bureaucrats, enjoy your slavery you've earned it. ------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
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Marvin McInnis Member
Posts: 11599 From: ~ Kansas City, USA Registered: Apr 2002
You're entitled to your opinion, Dennis, whether I agree with it or not. I already made it clear that what I object to is the crude and inappropriate way you chose to express yourself.
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Posts: 15145 From: Hillsborough, NJ U.S.A. Registered: May 2000
You're entitled to your opinion, Dennis, whether I agree with it or not. I already made it clear that what I object to is the crude and inappropriate way you chose to express yourself.
What I object to is the crude and inappropriate way that our politicans give away our tax moeny to their criminal friends on Wall Street. No obsenity would do those low life people justice as their behavior is more than obsene...and they've got the nerve to tell us how to build our cars. No way!. ------------------ " THE BLACK PARALYZER" -87GT 3800SC Series III engine, 3.4" Pulley, N* TB, LS1 MAF, Flotech Exhaust Autolite 104's Custom CAI 4T65eHD w. custom axles, HP Tuners VCM Suite. "THE COLUSSUS" 87GT - ALL OUT 3.4L Turbocharged engine, Garrett Hybrid Turbo, MSD ign., modified TH125H " ON THE LOOSE WITHOUT THE JUICE "
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hyperv6 Member
Posts: 6000 From: Clinton, OH, USA Registered: Mar 2003
This is what i get for going to a ricer type website i already feel my brain starting to melt
He is basicley saying that (for example) since the 3800SC is not certied to be in a fiero by the EPA that it is an illegal swap and you can get in trouble for it.
I find it really hard to beleave that this is true considering that the 3800 is a much more efficient motor than the 2.8.
Discuss.
When it comes to engine swaps the phrase "Check Your Local Laws" Applies in all cases.
Depends on where you live as to what you can do. This applies in some states right down to the county.
didnt one of those car shows on spike do a build that was 50 state leagle. i think all it has to be is of the model year of the car its going in or newer of the same brand and all the emmisions have to work of the donor engine. but that begs the ? what about crate engines a carbed 350 is not going to give the same emmisions as my old duke. but then agin i live in upstate ny and as long as the car is 95 or older it dont matter heck evean then theres enough back woods shopes that i can go to.
personaly i think this is there way of phasing out pre OBD2 cars. 
