Is it just me...or does the plight of the usage of the word " rims " to describe WHEELS nag at you? It sounds like we're driving hondas with leaf blower turbos ( yes they really exist... ) for frick sakes! Now if you are saying to yourself..." well Hockaday you're just an older guy and not hip to the lingo " or " wheels rims...same diff... " well I'm 21 and NO not the same diff!

This is wheel:

Now yes " rims " do exist...they are very real...and quite out dated as I understand. They were used on trucks.

Here is a diagram.

Components of the multi-piece rim wheel: 1. rim base, 2. valve assembly, 3. tire, 4. side ring, 5. O ring, and 6. lock ring (figure courtesy of OSHA).

Ok...my rant is over. =). G'night and good luck.

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In recent times, the custom aftermarket car/automobile roadwheel has become a status symbol. These wheels are often incorrectly referred to as "rims". The term "rim" is incorrect because the rim is only the outer portion of a wheel (where the tire is mounted )

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A rim is the metal center then you have the tire which is your rubber part. Tire plus rim equals a wheel

A rim or lip is yes part of a wheel but it is actually to describe a deep dish wheel. Now what do you consider a Mag wheel?

I just got a set of scion Rims for my Fiero.
Pretty cheap too. I think I only paid $100 for all 4 Rims with tires.

Good Call!!! Check it out....

Rim (wheel)
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An aluminum alloy wheelThe rim of a wheel is the outer circular design of the metal on which the inside edge of the tire is mounted on vehicles such as automobiles.[1] For example, on a bicycle wheel the rim is a large hoop attached to the outer ends of the spokes of the wheel that holds the tire and tube.

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Decorative wheels are often incorrectly referred to as "rims".[6] This use of the term "rim" is incorrect because it refers to only the outer portion of a wheel (where the tire is mounted), just as the rim of a coffee cup or a meteor crater does not refer to the entire object.

quote Originally posted by temulance: Good Call!!! Check it out.... Rim (wheel) From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search An aluminum alloy wheelThe rim of a wheel is the outer circular design of the metal on which the inside edge of the tire is mounted on vehicles such as automobiles.[1] For example, on a bicycle wheel the rim is a large hoop attached to the outer ends of the spokes of the wheel that holds the tire and tube. Meaning Decorative wheels are often incorrectly referred to as "rims".[6] This use of the term "rim" is incorrect because it refers to only the outer portion of a wheel (where the tire is mounted), just as the rim of a coffee cup or a meteor crater does not refer to the entire object.

This is the "correct" definition.

Having said that... At age 53, I have heard the terms "rims" and "wheels" used interchangeably for most of my life.
I used to have a Fairlane with "chrome reverse rims".

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And I've heard tires called "casings"! But then, I'm old, too.

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quote Originally posted by deezil: I just got a set of scion Rims for my Fiero. Pretty cheap too. I think I only paid $100 for all 4 Rims with tires.

Find me a deal like that! :P

Rims? Wheels? Ohh you must mean "Dub Rollies". Thats what the cool cats are calling them now.

My definition is a rim and wheel are interchangable....its the metal ( or plastic) part that bolts on the studs. The rubber part is a tire. I do usually call it a wheel rim without tires. I dont really have a name for a wheel with a tire mounted except a 'set'. ie/ in the winter or summer I switch to my other 'set' of wheels. There complete and ready to drive, no tire mounting.

quote Originally posted by GADJet: Find me a deal like that! :P

http://norfolk.craigslist.org/pts/2018425656.html

roj

Yes, there is a difference between the specific definition of the words "Rim" and "Wheel." Most of the time, when people say "Rim," they are actually referring to wheels. That being said, the words have been used interchangeably for years. When someone says, "I just put new rims on my Fiero," I will understand that they actually put new "wheels" on their car.

This is a silly thing to be angry about.

I just like saying rim more than wheel. I've never in my life had someone confused when saying "nice rims yo"

plus.. when buying rims (ok WHEELS for the OP) its not like your just buying the "outer circular design of the metal on which the inside edge of the tire is mounted", per the defintion

I cant wait to throw some twinkies on the back of my fiero myself

All in fun from somewhat of an old-school hot rodder . . .
I hear wheels and rims being used interchangeably. The fun is getting around some of the 60's and early 70's old-schoolers when they refer to their wheels as
'feet' and their tires as 'shoes," as in "What size shoes are ya runnin on the strip?" Or, "Mounting up the sticky shoes for the brackets on Sunday." In the winter (which, incidentally, arrived overnight here in Northern Minnesota, meaning I have to put my sports cars away because they dumped salt on the roads), if you are going to run snow tires, the 'shoes' are referred to as 'boots.' "Yup, got new Michelin boots on my 4 x4."

I'm 54. My car/truck friends range in age from about mid-80's down to late teens. It's the older ones that talk about feet, shoes and boots.

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quote Originally posted by Tstang429: A rim is the metal center then you have the tire which is your rubber part. Tire plus rim equals a wheel

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Pretty easy way of describing things. I am about to put my winter "wheels" on (with winter tires).. while some may put on their winter rims (with some all season tires transfered from their summer rims).

quote Originally posted by Custom2M4: Rims? Wheels? Ohh you must mean "Dub Rollies". Thats what the cool cats are calling them now.

Had not heard that one. I have heard, "I got new rollers". I assumed it was wheels and tires combined. My wife threw her "rollers" out a while back.

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quote Originally posted by GMplastic: *snip* In the winter (which, incidentally, arrived overnight here in Northern Minnesota, meaning I have to put my sports cars away because they dumped salt on the roads),

Ughhh, I wasn't paying attention to the upcoming weather, now I have to drive my Fiero through all this slush back to Rochester soon. Hopefully its nicer this weekend.

Oh, and I always call a wheel a wheel. Anytime I do that it seems like someone in my age group looks at me like I'm an invalid and tells me "Those are rims, not wheels." I never really can muster up the energy to argue a point with someone that ignorant.

People call them "rims", but the correct term is "wheel".

I am with the original poster. Fieros have wheels and tires there aren't any rims made for the Fiero. Normally, the rim is referred to as the stainless steel trim ring around the outer edge of the older steel wheels.

And sorry, using wiki for a dictionary is wrong. Anyone can edit as they please and if I wanted to change the definition of a word to match my criteria then who's to question what I typed?

Anyway, as per Merriam-Webster:

Definition of RIM
1a : brink
b : the outer often curved or circular edge or border of something
2a : the outer part of a wheel joined to the hub usually by spokes
b : a removable outer metal band on an automobile wheel to which the tire is attached

The latter definition is what I am accustomed to. Not saying it is what everyone goes by but, as I see it, the correct defintion of a rim vs. wheel.

Now with that in mind, how many Fiero wheels have you purchased or seen with an "outer removable band"? Most likely....zero.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by IwannaIRM:

I am with the original poster. Fieros have wheels and tires there aren't any rims made for the Fiero.


If you want to get technical, there are plenty of two-piece racing wheels that fit a Fiero and they all have rims.

There is a diffrence between wheels and "rims" according to my asian friend. Rims are any wheel 20 inches or larger wheels are 19 inch and lower.... Theres other reffrences to 20 inch and higher but there kinda racial.

We really have NOTHING else to talk about than this?

quote Originally posted by deezil: I just got a set of scion Rims for my Fiero. Pretty cheap too. I think I only paid $100 for all 4 Rims with tires.

That is a good price on those Rims and all 4 Rims are nice to have. I would like to find a set of Mag Rims for my car. I just hope I can find a set of Rims as cheap as your Rims are.

Im over 60 and never heard the term 'feet', but have heard tires referred to as shoes.

The stainless ring that clips on the outside of the wheel/rim were always just called 'trim rings'. I never heard anyone call them rims. There usually on what manufacturers referred to as 'rally wheels'

I'm 23 and regularly refer to tires as "shoes" especially when given the opportunity to confuse my buddies (that are around my age). But then again I've been around old school hot rodders most of my life, which could explain why I also refer to TIG welding as Heli-Arc (which confuses the guys at work)...

And for the OP, yes, they're wheels. That is unless we're talking about something around 20 or bigger, in which case they're rims, but you have to throw a 'y' in there somehow when you say it...

It comes from the 1960's, when the center of the wheel was reversed and spot welded to the rim. Hence, reverse chrome "rims."
Blame my generation!!
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quote Originally posted by IwannaIRM: I am with the original poster. Fieros have wheels and tires there aren't any rims made for the Fiero. Normally, the rim is referred to as the stainless steel trim ring around the outer edge of the older steel wheels. And sorry, using wiki for a dictionary is wrong. Anyone can edit as they please and if I wanted to change the definition of a word to match my criteria then who's to question what I typed? Anyway, as per Merriam-Webster: Definition of RIM 1a : brink b : the outer often curved or circular edge or border of something 2a : the outer part of a wheel joined to the hub usually by spokes b : a removable outer metal band on an automobile wheel to which the tire is attached The latter definition is what I am accustomed to. Not saying it is what everyone goes by but, as I see it, the correct defintion of a rim vs. wheel. Now with that in mind, how many Fiero wheels have you purchased or seen with an "outer removable band"? Most likely....zero.

Holy Camoly!! I think thats exactly what I said in a different way quoted from wiki!!! Jeez Learn to read! and Personally Who Gives a Sh....at in what someone calls something! From Now On I will call them "The Round things in Which Tires are attached" That way everyone here knows at least what I am talking about and I wont offend anyone. Everyone else you call them what you want! Rims, Shoes, Feet, Boots, Wheels, Castings, Spokes, Dubs the list goes on... now get over it!

How about putting a new set of skins on your ride. Or Rim of the canyon or Rim job? I can't believe I got sucked into this conversation.............

Rim: any wheel so large you can't run 40 profile tires... My personal definition

As I see it, the 'rim' is only part of the 'wheel'. The 'rim' of the wheel is like the 'rim' of a glass. Tires are mounted on wheels. The 'bead' of the tire bears against and seals on the rim. To me, calling wheels 'rims' makes you sound like you're either (a) a ricer, or (b) from the ghetto. A wheel is a wheel. Always has been - always will be!

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wheels... rims ... whatever. In the words of the esteemed Bill Murray - Lighten up Francis.

J/K

Rich

Tomorrow's class will teach us the difference between "motor" and "engine."

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Tomorrow's class will teach us the difference between "motor" and "engine."

LOL, nice one

They have reality tv shows that argue about such nonsense...

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Tomorrow's class will teach us the difference between "motor" and "engine."

'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.' ~~ (Lewis Carroll, Through the Looking Glass, Chapter VI)

If you want me to understand you, use the most precise words available. If you just want to hear yourself talk, use any words you want but don't expect me to listen.

"Wheel" is correct for the entire thing. "Rim" is just colloquial (and for a limited time only, at that), except as it applies to the outer part of the wheel that supports the tire. An antique wagon wheel, cart wheel, automobile wheel, bicycle wheel, motorcycle wheel, etc. consist of three main parts: 1) the hub, 2) multiple spokes or a solid or semi-solid web, and 3) the outer rim.

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If words were all set in stone the Dead sea scrolls wouldn't have blown out into a hundred + religions due to interpretations of words.

Heres an easyer and more blunt and to the point about this topic... Billions of people call them rims. Rims wheels whats the diffrence. We all know what they mean, heall back in the cave man days they probabley called a wheel a grumph or somthing. We all know what it means and diffrent people have diffrnent ways of saying wheel weather it be rims dubs shoes spinners whatever. If it bothers you that much you shouldent be into the car scene.

Its just like engine and motor
water and H20
house and crib.

They all mean the same thing and you all know what someone is trying to say when they say it.

quote Originally posted by Formula88: Tomorrow's class will teach us the difference between "motor" and "engine."

That ones easy. An engine runs on a fuel, and a motor runs on electricity. Aint no other definition.

quote Originally posted by pontiackid86: heall back in the cave man days they probabley called a wheel a grumph or somthing.

Its official! We're calling them "grumphs" from now on.