Question, questions, and more questions. Would a 350Z rear window look "good" on a Stock (bubble top) Fiero? We know how it looks on the Finale but, what about using a smaller size rear window such as "The 350Z's" rear window. What are some of the benifits by using a "Z" window? No obstruction, turbo or supercharging, chrome "kingdom" for visuals under the glass.

Example of a nice Finale using a rear glass (I forgot which one is used)




Maybe a few good photoshop people can lend a hand? This just a "pipe dream" at best, so let's not go out on the deep end.

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Im working on PS, but It would be nice to know the measurement for acuracy sake. It lloks liek a 300zx window is the right xhape to fit right in the buttressess

EDIT 300zx not 200zx, typo

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quote Originally posted by FieroWannaBe: Im working on PS, but It would be nice to know the measurement for acuracy sake. It lloks liek a 200zx window is the right xhape to fit right in the buttressess

Hmm. i think they're H44"x W36"?

A better rear end to work with.

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quote Originally posted by FieroWannaBe: Just a start hopefully some better ones later this was a 300zx window.

Ahh. The 350Z window. Sorry.

One of the reasons I wanted a fiero is because of the shape of the back. I think its one of the nicest features on the fiero, and its what sets it apart from most cars on the road. Covering it with a window takes that all away.

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quote Originally posted by trots: One of the reasons I wanted a fiero is because of the shape of the back. I think its one of the nicest features on the fiero, and its what sets it apart from most cars on the road. Covering it with a window takes that all away.

agreed... if you add that rear window you start to look like a Dodge Daytona or Laser from the late 80's early 90's... it just doesn't look unique anymore....

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You know, it might be interesting to post up some dimensions of different back windows that might work in Fieros.

I'm sure many Fiero owners have other cars that have back windows, it would be interesting if they would post dimensions of them.

Here are the dimensions of the 350Z rear window.



Archie

quote Originally posted by trots: One of the reasons I wanted a fiero is because of the shape of the back. I think its one of the nicest features on the fiero, and its what sets it apart from most cars on the road. Covering it with a window takes that all away.

agree'd the only way my rear will change is the choptop. The things I don'y like about the gt raer the front bumper, lack of scoop on the left side and the dash, other than that the only things that will change on mine is the engine and sides if I decide to make a wider body.

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Today,I was at the beach and a brand new Lexus sport coupe was parked next to me. I reviewed the rear window possible pipe dream II. The window look pretty wide and maybe too big? Does anyone know the specs of a 2006 Lexus 430(?) coupe?

quote Originally posted by madcurl: Today,I was at the beach and a brand new Lexus sport coupe was parked next to me. I reviewed the rear window possible pipe dream II. The window look pretty wide and maybe too big? Does anyone know the specs of a 2006 Lexus 430(?) coupe?

isnt the SC430 a convertible? thats the only lexus coupe i know of to exist

quote Originally posted by Jermz238: isnt the SC430 a convertible? thats the only lexus coupe i know of to exist

hardtop convert

quote Originally posted by FieroWannaBe:

Lovely. Got anymore pics of that?

Too bad I have a notchy because a back window would be ubersweet.

I went "shopn' for glass" today. I came upon a Scion hatchback but the glass was too wide. Nice curve but it was 47" across and 18" height (ruffly---38" is the max width for glass hatchback Fiero). The next stop....Madza




Maybe something that's 38" wide and 24" height?

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I did some measuring of a Prism rear window mod I've been eye balling. The window measures 44" across and 24" height.

a little info on window sizes, thewidth between buttresses is about 44" to 52" it increases to the rear, but those are very rough measures.
I had discussed using louvers from 80's hatchback cars a while ago
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/A...060811-1-057561.html

LOL I'm actually picturing Curly sneaking up to random cars in parking lots, and pulling out his paper measuring tape to measure all these cars back windows.

I wish I could record some of these visions to show everybody.

Brad

quote Originally posted by twofatguys: LOL I'm actually picturing Curly sneaking up to random cars in parking lots, and pulling out his paper measuring tape to measure all these cars back windows. I wish I could record some of these visions to show everybody. Brad

I keep one of those metal roll-out spools in the car. Just in case I get a chance to measure a car's rear window. The Prism was a co-workers car so it was okay. Ohterwise, I usually head to the local dealerships' lot.

quote Originally posted by FieroWannaBe: a little info on window sizes, thewidth between buttresses is about 44" to 52" it increases to the rear, but those are very rough measures. I had discussed using louvers from 80's hatchback cars a while ago ]

The key is to use the 350Z rear 38.5" window as a reference point. Archie move in the pillers on #020, therefor 38.5 to 40" should be the size to look for.

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quote Originally posted by madcurl: Question, questions, and more questions. Would a 350Z rear window look "good" on a Stock (bubble top) Fiero?

Not going into any indepth stuff but that term really makes me grit my teeth. Pretty derogatory IMO. just had to get that off my chest. I only see the Chop Top Guys using it so I'm guessing it's a way of one uping those "Stock" folks that don't say good things about Chop Tops. No intention of starting a flame war, but if I'm wincing everytime I read it, I'm sure others are also.

Then again, it could be just me.
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quote Originally posted by madcurl: Example of a nice Finale using a rear glass (I forgot which one is used)

That has got to be the cooooolest Finale back end Ihave seen so far. Is there a build thread, can those tail lights be purchased as part of the kit?????
JOhn ><>

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Those are Bonneville lights, they had to custom fit the lights, I can't not remember where the thread is though.

I think putting rear glass on an otherwise stock fiero would be too 3rd gen f-body for my liking. Rear glass only looks cool on a heavily modded fiero, IMHO

Wow! Nearly two years later a stock top fastback will have a 350Z rear window in a few weeks. Funny how pipe dreams do come true.

kinda kills the ability to do extra fun activity's on warm summer nights with your significant other if you put a window there.

looks good though

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Occassionally. Happy now?

quote Originally posted by madcurl: Wow! Nearly two years later a stock top fastback will have a 350Z rear window in a few weeks. Funny how pipe dreams do come true.

I have a feeling I know whos car your talking about.

Those bonny tail lights kick ass.

I think there is another guy doing a rear window type set-up, I remember seeing pictures somewhere but can't remeber where. Anybody know?

Guy here in Florida has been working on a bolt on kit for stock fast backs.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/072666.html

quote WE HAVE A HATCH BACK! $750.00 + Shipping & Handling (Does not come with glass) Shipping price coming soon along with paypal addy. **In stock ready to ship**

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: Guy here in Florida has been working on a bolt on kit for stock fast backs. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/072666.html [QUOTE] WE HAVE A HATCH BACK! $750.00 + Shipping & Handling (Does not come with glass) Shipping price coming soon along with paypal addy. **In stock ready to ship**

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I like this piece. It sure would be a lot cheaper than designing & making my own. However, I'd like to see a lot more detail.

What rear window is needed?

Do the hinges come with it? If not, what hinges does it use & how are they attached to the chassis?

What does it look like underneath & thru the rear window?

Is there steel reinforcement inside the fiberglass for the hinges to bolt to?

I'm not crazy about the recesses for the wing mounting & what I can see of the louvers on either side but it would be easier to modify this one than to make my own from scratch.

Need more details & more pictures.

Archie

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IMO the hatch glass 300Z in FL is a "start," but it lacks the items needed to make it work. Starting with the 300Z glass.


1. IMO regardless of the side vents the 300Z glass is flat and will appear as a "add-on."
2. Due to the glass being flat, it follow the shape of the roof.
3. Lacks a contured shape thus a broad view from the rear (picture a women w/o hips).


The plus side is;

1. You got something to work with.
2. Time saved in tweaking it.
2. If you're content with "as-is" then roll with it.

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Before I got my second money pit I was going to get one. I just wanted the vents inverted so they didn't stick up past the body lines.
The wing stand indentations don't look good with out the wing installed, they probably look OK with a wing installed.

I haven't seen one in person yet.

Anyone ever thought of using a fiero sunroof glass? You know the curve and width would be correct. Lenght is probably a bit short though. Might be worth a look since you probably have one lying around.

EDIT: Other ideas...
http://robson.m3rlin.org/cars/porsche-targa/
http://www.bimmerfest.com/f...wthread.php?t=324302
http://www.bidernet.com/198...n_id,auction_details

This last one in particular. 91 CRX hatch
http://yhst-1408381693991.s...t/usjdmcrx88913.html

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quote Originally posted by Fieroseverywhere: Anyone ever thought of using a fiero sunroof glass? You know the curve and width would be correct. Lenght is probably a bit short though. Might be worth a look since you probably have one lying around.

Actualy I have thought of it, just havent had a chance to hold one up to the back of the car.

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: Actualy I have thought of it, just havent had a chance to hold one up to the back of the car.

quote Originally posted by exoticse: No comments ? Hmmm well how's about a few pics of a mock up for this car's next mod ? Note, the car pictured is not Madcurl's choptop #20 but rather his choptop #15. This mod will be going on choptop #20.

As demonstrated, a sun roof glass is about the right size for such a modification, but seriously you'd need a custom glass (same size) w/o the unwanted holes, tint, and most importantly a choptop. Using that size leaves a lot of space left over on a bubble top.

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quote Originally posted by madcurl: As demonstrated, a sun roof glass is about the right size for such a modification, but seriously you'd need a custom glass (same size) w/o the unwanted holes, tint, and most importantly a choptop. Using that size leaves a lot of space left over on a bubble top.

If you really had to do it on a budget the tint could be removed and the holes filled. At the same time since you have a piece to base it off of having a new piece made wouldn't be that much. Hmm. I've got several of these lying around.

quote Originally posted by Fieroseverywhere: If you really had to do it on a budget the tint could be removed and the holes filled. At the same time since you have a piece to base it off of having a new piece made wouldn't be that much. Hmm. I've got several of these lying around.

Actually, the Toyota Prism rear hatch was my next option verses the stock glass sun roof. I'm not 100% sure, but the Prism glass has is greater curvature thus eliminating the flat appearance. You could then use the glass a template.

I've also wondered if something with a rear defogger would be the way to go. Not enough hatch fieros out there to know if fogging up is a real problem or not. It rains alot here (near 275 days a year). This makes the windows fog up all the time and usually have to run the heater to keep it clear. I would hate to lose the view out the back. The heat inside the car would be isolated from the hatch so thats no help. Does the engine heat tend to keep that in check?

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