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Digital Speedometer by bsinnest
Started on: 05-23-2009 06:13 PM
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Report this Post05-23-2009 06:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for bsinnestClick Here to Email bsinnestSend a Private Message to bsinnestDirect Link to This Post

So, I've been working on a project for my senior year of Electronic Engineering Technology. For this, I've decided to build a digital speedometer that will be used as a replacement in my Fiero.

With conversations back and forth with Oliver Scholz (sp?), and Jeff Hiner (non PFF member) I have just about got the unit complete. Since I have not got a lot of time to make all other gauges at this time, I stuck with the speedometer. It is going to stay in the same cluster, just replace the analog gauge.

I'm hoping to have it complete by the end of the week, Just posting here to let you guys know there will be pictures very soon.
And, that I'm excited to have it completed --> (Graduate college, with an accurate reading!)

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Report this Post05-23-2009 10:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post

Fascinating... I would be interested to see what you came up with.

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Report this Post05-23-2009 10:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ltlfrariClick Here to visit ltlfrari's HomePageClick Here to Email ltlfrariSend a Private Message to ltlfrariDirect Link to This Post

Cool. I tried to do one some time ago. The main problem I had was noise on the input signal throwing the speed calculations off. I thought of numerous ways to address it including using a freq to voltage circuit then simple reading the voltage but I've get to get back to. Yet another of those 'to do' projects!

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Report this Post05-26-2009 10:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for bsinnestClick Here to Email bsinnestSend a Private Message to bsinnestDirect Link to This Post

So, I've just about got it perfect. Its about accurate, but increments by 2 instead of single digit counting.

I've only got a couple pictures of it resting at 0, and they are at night..








(^ picture.. the hundreds digit is not lit at the very top.. this is because there is a defect in that particular 7-segment display.)

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Report this Post05-27-2009 02:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FieromaniacClick Here to visit Fieromaniac's HomePageSend a Private Message to FieromaniacDirect Link to This Post

hi ,
i did this a while ago:





http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum3/HTML/000037.html

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Report this Post06-15-2009 07:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bsinnestClick Here to Email bsinnestSend a Private Message to bsinnestDirect Link to This Post

So, at the beginning of the thread, the pictures everybody sees are just of the building of the speedometer. The other day, the rest of the parts had come in, and its done. Well, maybe just a touch-up is in order. but not at this instant. So, without further delay:





The result is great. With the tint there, you see nothing at all (not any of that mess that was present in the first few pics.), and accuracy is unbelievable. It is right on par with a GPS system.

Future plans is to make my own RPM gauge, with smaller 7-segments though.
Maybe a gauge that tells the driver how much fuel is remaining in the tank.
A bar-graph for temperature, and battery.
Note: These will not be done this summer by any means, just when I have got the time to tinker.

Hope you like, and please leave comments (good, or bad)
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Report this Post06-15-2009 12:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ltlfrariClick Here to visit ltlfrari's HomePageClick Here to Email ltlfrariSend a Private Message to ltlfrariDirect Link to This Post

Looks very nice. What did you use for the tinted cover?

Care to share the circuit?

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Report this Post06-15-2009 12:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for bsinnestClick Here to Email bsinnestSend a Private Message to bsinnestDirect Link to This Post

The tinted cover is actually the plastic piece under the bezel, with tint.

The circuit was not created by myself, and is released under the GPL. You can find this at www.randomwisdom.com
The creator's name is Jeff Hiner, all credit should be given to him for the work.
The circuit uses a PIC16F648A, (code available there as well). Mutliplexing the 7-segment displays.
Read comments, discussions resolve issues I had come across.

Note: I am not trying to cut anyones throat who is selling speedometers, I was asked about the circuit, and don't find it incorrect to release details as it is easily found doing a google search.

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Report this Post06-15-2009 03:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ltlfrariClick Here to visit ltlfrari's HomePageClick Here to Email ltlfrariSend a Private Message to ltlfrariDirect Link to This Post

I appreciate the link. How are you obtaining the trigger signal to the microprocessor. From the circuit and comments it looks like it uses a reed switch and magnet on the axle. I was hoping for something a little more sophisticated.
I was trying to use the VSS signal and an op amp or two to 'square' it up but was having a lot of trouble with false triggers due to noise in the vss signal itself.
The rest looks to be pretty standard. In fact my design used latch/drivers to hold the current 7 seg output so that the PIC did not have to spend it's life refreshing the 7 seg displays, just set and forget.

You can see what I did on my web site.

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I read your comments on his web site. It looks like you are a tapping into the output from the on board chip in the original speedo (the one that goes to the ECM). Is that correct?
I was trying to avoid that.

Nice effort though (plus you're ahead of me!). + to you.

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Report this Post06-15-2009 03:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for bsinnestClick Here to Email bsinnestSend a Private Message to bsinnestDirect Link to This Post

Yes, the signal that i am tapping into is the output to the ECM, using a filter capacitor to block out the noise going to the PIC.
I will def. check out your site!
Any questions on this build, I'll be glad to help with.

Using the PIC allows for less components, and makes it easy to build a housing unit to put in place of the analog gauge.

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Report this Post06-15-2009 09:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ltlfrariClick Here to visit ltlfrari's HomePageClick Here to Email ltlfrariSend a Private Message to ltlfrariDirect Link to This Post

I noticed it looks like you cannot see the trip meter anymore. Is that true or is it just the way is shows in the photos.

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Report this Post06-16-2009 07:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroboy_gtClick Here to Email fieroboy_gtSend a Private Message to fieroboy_gtDirect Link to This Post

that is hot in blue you need to sell me it. Looks really sharp an big. you should produce them an sellem.

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Report this Post06-16-2009 10:50 AM Click Here to See the Profile for bsinnestClick Here to Email bsinnestSend a Private Message to bsinnestDirect Link to This Post

Hey, its true that you can't see the tripometer, but that is something i am going to fix up after. Will probably do this by placing white or blue leds facing them to turn on when the speedometer turns on.

As for producing and selling, it was thought about. I wouldn't mind doing it if it were my own work, but where I had got the code and stuff from someone else, I find it unethical to do such. So as of right now, the only thing I am willing to do, is offer advice if anyone decides he/she wants to build their own speedometer using Jeff Hiner's design.

Thanks for the comments, and will post pictures again when I get the trip showing again.
Also, I am soon going to begin working on a digital RPM gauge, this will take more time, but will hopefully be all my own work so re-sale would be possible.

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