just a bump for other people, sent you a PM back F-I-E-R-O
not sure who has recieved a pm from him, but he's got a few issues quality wise with the badges. From what I see looks fine.. hopefully you don't mind me posting a pic or more info about these. Just trying to put people at ease with this think were all a wee bit anxious.
some more then others *whistling*
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Falcon4 Member
Posts: 1189 From: Fresno, CA, USA Registered: Oct 2006
I've been playing with the badges. Having them come in as a solid doesn't give them enough contrast to be able to see the design very well. I'm working on different techniques that will make me happy with the final product so please bear with me. The badges shown above are three samples of what I have come up with so far. I'm doing some more research on options available to make these as perfect as I can get them. I want to make sure that what goes out is the best that they can be. There are alot of great ideas out there for filling in the depressed areas to offset the design. So far, the all black and red/black look promising. The silver was done rather quickly and would not represent the best that can be accomplished but I wanted to get something out for you to see. Coloring the background makes a huge difference and looks pretty good in person. Any suggestions are welcome.
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datacop Member
Posts: 1426 From: Indianapolis, IN, USA Registered: Jan 2004
Pardon my opinion, but that looks more like chrome or nickel plating than silver to me. How much is the colorizing, and is that red actually translucent?
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so are you not going to ship them "normal"? Are you going to put painting as an option? I LOVE the red and black, it matches my car amazingly. Keep us in touch!
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Jan 21st, 2007
F-I-E-R-O Member
Posts: 8410 From: Endwell, NY Registered: Jan 2005
Originally posted by FieroGT42: Pardon my opinion, but that looks more like chrome or nickel plating than silver to me. How much is the colorizing, and is that red actually translucent?
I love opinions! I am nothing without the input of others. Good, bad, or other. Regarding the finish, it is much brighter than I imagined. With its mirror-like finish, it is difficult to discern the design without struggling. This image:
is the best you can get to seeing the design. From a distance, it looks only like a badge shaped mirror. The red is actually translucent, like tinted chrome. There will be absolutely no charge for coloring the badges. To send one out the way it is now and expect that anyone got what they paid for is not acceptable to me.
I have been beating myself up over the past few days for this. But just now I realized something. If I could post this idea and have as many views of the plan without anyone making any remarks about this being a possible issue, then I guess I can't be too hard on myself. Lesson learned.
Solutions: I have spent a lot of time looking for ways to fix this. I have ordered several products that I'll have probably Monday or Tuesday and start playing around with adjusting the background to give the badges the finishing touch they need to be complete. I am also planning on checking into screen printing, powder coating, and anything else that would fix this. The different options being explored may not be viable solutions, but the more I examine and eliminate, the better I'll feel about the end product and the more I will have learned about what not to do.
I am more than happy to send anyone who paid for a badge what I have now and a free replacement when the process has been finalized. I'm working as fast as I can to get these to where I intended them to be. When it comes to these, I am extremely committed to ensuring that the finished product is something that I can be proud of. Send me a PM if you would like for me to send out what I have now. The final product will be sent as soon as I can. Since I at least had the foresight to order 100 of each, I have more than enough to practice on to get this right.
Looking good so far. I like the red & black, although a solid red might be better than a translucent. Could you give us choices of what color is put in? Maybe for extra? I doubt powder coating will work , you would have to tape off evrything you didn't want coated with special tape and although I've never done it, I suspect it wouldn't work well enough for the level of detail you require. I think what your doing now is working well. Another possibilty would be infill with paint and wipe off the surface, but again, I suspect that might be plenty difficult to get right as well. Sorry I don't have any better ideas for you, but I admire that you want to get them right, keep up the good work.
Originally posted by F-I-E-R-O: I have been beating myself up over the past few days for this. But just now I realized something. If I could post this idea and have as many views of the plan without anyone making any remarks about this being a possible issue, then I guess I can't be too hard on myself. Lesson learned.
Exactly! Anyone who's completely pissed about it, how can you blame F-I-E-R-O when you didn't foresee this and come forward about it? I can totally understand this happening given that this is sort of a new and untested thing, and I hope everyone else can too. Is it a complete tragedy that the badges might be hard to read from a moving car? I don't think so. I think a lot of people would still be happy with them.
I'd hate to cover up all of that nice silver with paint, but I want it to be visible at least from say... another car at a stoplight. Think you could do something like take a short video in daylight, moving around the badge from a few feet away so we can see something closer to real-world visibility?
I'm not sure how you would go about doing it, but maybe adding some texture to the lower areas might distinguish them at a distance from the polished higher parts?
I agree, the black & red is really nice. The only thing I would consider is red + red, but that might not look so good. I'm not sure about opaque red being better. I think the translucency might add more depth, making it more interesting and less like someone just dumped cheap paint on them, but I'd have to see both in person to be sure. I hope the paint (or whatever it is) adheres well over time.
Stolen image link:
My own photoshop, not F-I-E-R-O's actual badges:
Edit: Shooped up a reverse of Red & Black as well:
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02:43 AM
Bruno Mid Engine Member
Posts: 250 From: Central Washington Registered: Nov 2006
Where's The Beef!! Man, those look great!! I'm ready to receive mine, ordered 2 GTs, one SILVER and one GOLD. No color please.
Also, the plain badges would go well with my ghost stripes....
I sent F-I-E-R-O a pm...I'll take them plain or colored no problems either way.
Don't beat yourself up so much. You have no control over the depth they strike the badges - plus If I paint them - then I use all the colors I want. Heck if I make a mistake - I just take the paint off before it sets - and go at it again! I'm buying exactly what you said was for sale....
You might consider this as an alternative to painting them all yourself. Send them out to those who say they want them as they are and if any have a real problem with them could then just ship them back to you, with some extra money so you're not out on cash when you paint them whatever and ship them back, again, finished. I'm pretty sure most who say they want them plain will be more than happy to take them plain and do whatever we want with them after that.
Originally posted by DrCPU: I'm buying exactly what you said was for sale.... Dave
I'm with this guy! I think you could leave it up to all of us to decide to do something about the way they look. I understand how stressful this could be for you so don't lose any hair over it! I'll take mine plain, and if I don't like it, maybe I'll pay you to paint it, or paint it myself!
Thanks for all of your hard work!
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LoW_KeY Member
Posts: 8081 From: Hastings, MI Registered: Oct 2001
I don't know, but if Andrew says they look like mirrors from a few feet away I'd take his word for it, choose black or black & red and call it a day. If you are willing to deal with it yourself I don't see why you couldn't, but I agree with the guy who said you would have to pony up for shipping both ways if you change your mind. He shouldn't get nickel and dimed to death on shipping simply because somone didn't beleive him. Especially since he's already offered to color them free of charge which I am sure is time-consuming! Plus then he'd be loking at even more time wasted because last time I checked, it takes time and money buy a padded envelope, insert item, possbily protected with additional cardboard, then go throught the hassle again of going to the post office, or however he ships. Maybe if you elect to send them back, you should have to include your own pre-paid, self adressed container so all he has to do is color it, place it in your container and drop it off. We are talking about many, many emblems here. That is all, end of lecture... ;-)
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F-I-E-R-O Member
Posts: 8410 From: Endwell, NY Registered: Jan 2005
Where's The Beef!! Man, those look great!! I'm ready to receive mine, ordered 2 GTs, one SILVER and one GOLD. No color please.
I'll get these out on Monday. Please remember that I will send you the same badges with improved apearance so don't worry if you're not happy with them.
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topcat Member
Posts: 5486 From: Charleston SC Registered: Dec 2001
OK, so whats the deal on these? Are we supposed to tell you what color we want now? What colors will be available? Kinda anxious to get mine, ya know?
------------------ 1988 Purple Fiero GTw/SC3800 conversion Best ET with 3.0 pulley,XPHOT cam, SS I/C and 105lb Valve springs: 12.38@110mph Best 60 Foot ever: 1.699
I have not read too much of this, but I do know that the badges appear to be flat and have no mounting post. they look quite thin too. I don't know if youf have tried to mount them or not but the fiero nose is not flat where the badge is. It has a bend so to speak in it. therefore if you try to mount it how it is it will **** to one side or another (I know because I have a "home made" badge on my car now). I just thought I would mention this if you haven't thought of it or addressed it already.
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F-I-E-R-O Member
Posts: 8410 From: Endwell, NY Registered: Jan 2005
With some very healthy persuasion these badges are bendable to match most any surface curvature they're going to be affixed to. The commercial auto adheasive will ensure that they are not going to go anywhere once they're in place. After a great deal of thought, I can't see any advantage to having the post on the back of the badges. Some might think that having one would be a good way to keep people from taking one. If they get to the point wher they're going to take it- they're going to take it. The real question is how much damage will be involved during its removal. Regarding the durability of the badge itself, I would put these up against any other auto badge out there. These are solid and heavy duty. They are not made of the cheap metal process which results in a brittle product, and they are substantially thick enough that the surface of whatever it is attached to will destroyed loooooooong before these will.
The badges will start going out Monday for those that want what I have right now. Regarding the coloring, just let me know what you would like and I'l put it together and send it out. Again, I can't stress enough that your satisfaction is guaranteed to the best of my ability.
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Jan 23rd, 2007
SOULCRUSHER Member
Posts: 1012 From: Waldorf, MD Registered: May 2004
Do you have GT badges in yet? I'd like some pictures to photoshop some paint on them and decide what I want. Feel free to email me massive pics instead of posting Thanks
Originally posted by FieroGT42: Do you have GT badges in yet? I'd like some pictures to photoshop some paint on them and decide what I want. Feel free to email me massive pics instead of posting Thanks
Jason
Jason,
I emailed you a PS version in black and white for you to play with.
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Originally posted by LoW_KeY:
before I run to the box today you get any chance to send some of them out?
yeah some would say just check, but it's a drive I'm out in BFE box is in the city
I've sent out the badges to everyone that I have an address for from Paypal. I just found the paperwork/address for Bruno and will send the two GT's out on Monday.
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Originally posted by Sharkman:
Will there be any choptop badges?
Yes, and I'm looking for your input as to what the background should be on these.
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Originally posted by Fiero5:
Wow, those look sweet! Anyway of getting one that says Bengals and with a black and orange paint scheme?
think were all a wee bit anxious.
I like the black!
those look so nice to me!
