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removing tree sap? by fierosound
Started on: 09-11-2007 09:05 AM
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Report this Post09-11-2007 09:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageClick Here to Email fierosoundSend a Private Message to fierosoundDirect Link to This Post

This sap appears to have been on the car for several years. I don't know what kind it is, but it has hardened and become part of the paint. The car looks fine from 20 feet away and in pictures, but looks really bad when close up.

I tried all of these to get it off the windshield:

Hot water/car wash solution
Bug & Tar remover
Orange cleaner
Rubbing Alcohol
WD40
Acetone
Mineral Spirits
Gasoline
and more...

It just smeared all over the place.

Finally managed to get it off the windshield with a power buffer, heavy duty rubbing compound and lots of work. I now have to do the entire body! I tried all the above products as well as the buffer and compound on the hood - no go!

There must be an easier way to get it off - short of SANDING it off along with the paint. Any suggestions??

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Report this Post09-11-2007 09:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageClick Here to Email OreifSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post

Have you tried a clay bar? It worked well on one of my older cars that had a lot of pine sap.
Anyhow, I would try this:

http://www.meguiars.com/est...Clay§ionID=11201

It does works well on tar, paint overspray, and other contaminants.

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Report this Post09-11-2007 10:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for WisconsinGTClick Here to Email WisconsinGTSend a Private Message to WisconsinGTDirect Link to This Post

Use goo gone and then polish and wax the area again.

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Report this Post09-11-2007 10:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MinnGreenGTClick Here to visit MinnGreenGT's HomePageClick Here to Email MinnGreenGTSend a Private Message to MinnGreenGTDirect Link to This Post

 
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Originally posted by Oreif:

Have you tried a clay bar? It worked well on one of my older cars that had a lot of pine sap.
Anyhow, I would try this:

http://www.meguiars.com/est...Clay§ionID=11201

It does works well on tar, paint overspray, and other contaminants.


That's what Tom P "The Prezz" told me he used on one of his cars a number of years back... and the whole thing had been parked under a tree!

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Report this Post09-11-2007 10:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mickey_MooseClick Here to visit Mickey_Moose's HomePageClick Here to Email Mickey_MooseSend a Private Message to Mickey_MooseDirect Link to This Post

goof-off worked for me...also as a side note, you can also get plastic 'razor' blades from Lee Valley to help with the removal.

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Report this Post09-11-2007 11:08 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageClick Here to Email fierosoundSend a Private Message to fierosoundDirect Link to This Post

 
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Originally posted by WisconsinGT:

Use goo gone and then polish and wax the area again.


 
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goof-off worked for me...



I hope these things come in gallon cans...

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Report this Post09-11-2007 02:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mtownfieroClick Here to Email mtownfieroSend a Private Message to mtownfieroDirect Link to This Post

we have a lot of pine trees in our yard and we use the stuff the painters use to prep cars thats used for removing all the grease and stuff of off the paint before it would get painted. I guess your supposed to wax the car right after you do this if you use it to get sap off.

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Report this Post09-11-2007 02:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for slingerSend a Private Message to slingerDirect Link to This Post

prep sol?

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Report this Post09-11-2007 07:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KalebClick Here to Email KalebSend a Private Message to KalebDirect Link to This Post

well if it hasnt been wetsanded yet you could wetsand it...makes the car look athousand times better..of course then you do risk damaging the paint so nevermind

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Report this Post09-11-2007 11:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jetmanClick Here to visit jetman's HomePageClick Here to Email jetmanSend a Private Message to jetmanDirect Link to This Post

Liquid Soft-Scrub gel if it is still available. Do not use regular Soft-Scrub as its way too abrasive, use only the liquid gel as it doesn't scratch. Comes in a green bottle and has bleach. Apply it straight with a wax applicator pad and then lightly use a clay bar.

Edit,,,, This is the stuff here,
http://www.softscrub.com/index.cfm?page_id=255

I discovered this out of shear frustration, nothing worked as well with much less effort to remove years of weather, acid rain, tree sap from my Fieros. My cars sit under the trees in the appartment lot, have no other choice. Each spring the paint surface is like a braile encyclopedia from sap and the like. Liquid Soft-Scrub gel works fast, an entire car can vbe done in less than an hour and you're ready for polish and wax. I did my old 87GT three times before my brother wheeled it out with Meguires light cut cleaner, paint popped real nice. Go lightly with the clay bar, lubricate it with Soft-Scrub on the hardened sap, warm water keeps the clay bar pliable. Good luck with the project.

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Report this Post09-12-2007 12:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for boysattClick Here to Email boysattSend a Private Message to boysattDirect Link to This Post

I use simple green on all my cars, in the concentrated form it dissolves the sap. I have used it on dozens of cars and works great. Spray on, let sit for a minute or 2, and wipe off, if there is still some, repeat the process, and then wash the car good afterwards. For glass I spray it down and use a new razor blade to clean it.

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ICE Get a cube of ice and hold it on the sap for some time the sap will freeze and become brittle, this will help you chip it off or scrape it off with a blade...
Learned that at my old job, detailing fords at a dealership.


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Report this Post09-12-2007 07:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageClick Here to Email OreifSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post

 
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Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

ICE Get a cube of ice and hold it on the sap for some time the sap will freeze and become brittle, this will help you chip it off or scrape it off with a blade...
Learned that at my old job, detailing fords at a dealership.


-Alex


Or just wait a few months when winter's cold breath blows thru.

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Report this Post09-12-2007 08:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for KalebClick Here to Email KalebSend a Private Message to KalebDirect Link to This Post

 
quote
Originally posted by FieroGTRwideboby:

ICE Get a cube of ice and hold it on the sap for some time the sap will freeze and become brittle, this will help you chip it off or scrape it off with a blade...
Learned that at my old job, detailing fords at a dealership.


-Alex



wow...would have never thought of that

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Report this Post09-12-2007 09:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageClick Here to Email fierosoundSend a Private Message to fierosoundDirect Link to This Post

Thanks for the many suggestions. You can't feel the sap on the surface, so I need something that will dissolve it rather than trying to chip it off. It almost looks like the clearcoat has holes in it - will sap etch holes in the clearcoat? The ENTIRE car is covered with this, so it'll be the weekend before I try cleaning this up again.

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Originally posted by fierosound:
It almost looks like the clearcoat has holes in it - will sap etch holes in the clearcoat?


Some sap from certain trees are more acidic. If left on for a long period of time it can etch into the clear coat just like bug splatter and bird do-do. (Keeping it family orientated )
If that is the case, You would need to wet sand the clearcoat and re-paint it.

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Originally posted by Oreif:

Some sap from certain trees are more acidic. If left on for a long period of time it can etch into the clear coat just like bug splatter and bird do-do. (Keeping it family orientated )
If that is the case, You would need to wet sand the clearcoat and re-paint it.



You just love handing out BAD NEWS don't ya?? I guess I'll find out this weekend whether I NEED a new paint job or not Wouldn't suprise me if I did...

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