I had the entire evening planned out. Go to mail box, then head out and do a quote on a custom computer for a customer then head up for a nice drive up the sea to sky hwy and check out a fiero that was offerd to me for the cost of towing it home.

Until............

I made a quick right turn, reached for 2nd and crunch, munch crunch.

Crap.

There goes another isuzu.

Oh well, I am sitting here with the laptop waiting for the tow truck. Manged to get a free unsecured connection from one of the places around me.

Just gonna chill, then out to try and find a new trans.

talk to ya all later

Just thought ya might like to know. P.S this is the 4.9 car.

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Wow, 6 transmissions? Maybe you should have your next one cryo'ed.

You should never race and turn right, only left. Will it go in gear at all?

Forget the Isuzus and getting one cryo'ed. Just get a Getrag or Muncie in there.

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Yep at this rate ugh maybe cryo treating.

I do have to admit in my own defense. That has been 6 in 13 years. 2 of them would move the car, but had problems, 2 of them were due to being an 84 case and it blowing apart and the last 2 were Isuzu's that keep blowing 2nd gear.

It sure has been fun though.

quote Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: You should never race and turn right, only left. Will it go in gear at all?

It makes a horrid crunch noise in any gear and you can feel it jamming and eating teeth up.

Ah well. Just got to find me another tranny.

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[This message has been edited by Capt Fiero (edited 06-22-2006).]

Well here are the pics of the trans.

I will update this thread as the job goes on. I picked up the replacement last night.

De-greased it, then cleaned it. Then decided to give it a coat of primer to cover any rust bits on the brackets. Then I did not like the look of primer. So I grabbed a couple cans of Trem Clad Gloss Red anti rust paint and went to town on it.

I figure I will let it bake in the sun while I pull the old one out of the car. Should be dry in an hour or 2 I hope.

Well enough chatter here are the pics.

ahhahhahaha you should change your nick to capt. crunch rather then capt fiero..heheheheh oh well least your getting faster at swapping them broken ones out...out with the old in with the new....tim..

And please tell me that's either tape on the CV seals, or you got new ones!

Poor, poor transmission... Hehe, I'm getting faster with re/re too. Hope this one lasts ya!

Steve

for real tech answers visit your friends over at www.realfierotech.com

quote Originally posted by chris5.0: for real tech answers visit your friends over at www.realfierotech.com

Real tech answers? None of your engines make enough torque to even blow up a weak Isuzu. You'd just tell Capt. to stick a piece of **** 3.4 dohc in there.

blowing up trannies isn't a good thing tinton. thats why we dont have cars with a lot of torque...we instead have numerous turbo 3.4s, and at least 2 turbo northstars.

quote Originally posted by chris5.0: blowing up trannies isn't a good thing tinton. thats why we dont have cars with a lot of torque...we instead have numerous turbo 3.4s, and at least 2 turbo northstars.

No that's why you have the equivalent of Fiero rice. Put in a tiny ass little weak motor, claim it has superior technology, and barely make the HP modified that a V8 makes stock.

Sig test for tinton the fagot.


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Hi my nme is tinton and I suck wieners and love to type sig test everywhere. I want to ride on sonics dong while he travels across america in his 18 wheeler. YEEE HAWWWW

Uhh...what the hell just happened?

Well everything that could go wrong with a tranny job has gone wrong.

Had to re-use my old throwout bearing as the one that came the tranny was oddly wrong for the tranny?

The shift arm had been jury rigged with a bent hook around the select arm. (will post pics) Had to steal parts from my tranny to fix this one.

The metal clutch release arm everyone said to remove, did not want to come off at all, no matter how hard I pounded it.

The cast one on my old tranny was in the same idea. F-U it did not want to come off.

I was out of Zip disc's so Lisa had to run and get me a few new ones.

Then the guard for the grinder kept getting in my way, so dumb me removed the guard and no less than 60 seconds later with the grinder on high, I manged to go straight into my index finger with the zip disk. (not severely, or severed, just enough to sting and bleed a little)

Then after all is said and done, I start installing it. I fight and fight its just like it won't line up that last inch. UGH I am going red, exhausted tired. My cousin comes over a fellow forum member, copbait. He gets under there to give me a hand. Then tells me to stop and remove the tranny. I have just spent the better part of an hour pushing, prying and jacking the motor up and down to get it in, and now he wants me to pull it back out, WHAT IS HE THINKING.

Well he is thinking that it would probably go in easier if there was not a dowl pin in both the trans AND the engine. UGH.

So about that point, he pounds the extra dowl pin out. We line it up, bolt the bell housing in and he drags me away. Says thats enough take a break. FieroChick, and I go in her Fiero, he takes his Fiero and another club member shows up in his fiero and we all head out for coffee at the local cruise in place. So now I am relaxing at home.

Gonna get some sleep, attach the last of it in the AM put it all back together, then try and get back inside get cleaned up and go to another forum members wedding. UGH. (fire451's) aka Red Dragon

On a side note, the bright red tranny in the engine bay does look really nice.

i see your problem dave....no where did u mention..took break to drink beer....or took break to down a pint of vodka...or whatever your choice of medicine maybe...hahahhaha ahhh we must really love our cars eh...tim..

Hey Capt Fiero, did you say the new tranny is an Isuzu? Because I've never seen a dipstick tube on an Isuzu tranny.

I worked on it till the last mins before I had to get cleaned up to go to the wedding. So I did not have time to reply.

But this trans is going to be the death of me yet. Darn near did today. Sun burnt, mild heat stroke. Well had 2 more bolts break, found the rear tranny bracket was bent, getting a weird feeling internally when I turn the CV shaft. Probably just stuck from age. But when I spin the wheel the other wheel spins in the same direction. If I double check that it is in gear, and try to turn one wheel. It acts like a solid axle and trys to crank the engine.

Started to put the wiring all back in and realized I tore an engine to chassie ground wire, found a coolant hose that split from the flexing of cradle going down and up.

I honestly can't believe how much this tranny just does not want to go into the car. Even the car is screaming NO NO NO.

Well its all back together and the car is on the ground, but clutch needs to be bled, split hose has to be replaced and wring needs to be plugged back in.

I think I may just stay clear of it tomorrow. I might just stay inside sit by the fan and sip a few Vodka Cranberries. Well until 3pm at least until I go to pick up another fiero and bring it home.

no I am not kidding.


Oh to the guy that asked about the dipstick on the Isuzu yes it is strange. I even had a thread on the topic

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/074504.html


Well talk to ya all later with another update tomorrow.

Err wait, I might have some pics from today to post. If I find em I will post em.

Next time around (it'll come sooner than you'd like), please consider using a Getrag transaxle or the 4 speed Muncie from a V6 car. Either one of those is strong enough to handle your 4.9; the Isuzu isn't.

In the meantime - what kills Isuzu transaxles on higher powered engines is second gear failing. The usual reason is speed shifting from 1 to 2 and not getting 2nd fully engaged before dropping the clutch. Careful driving can prolong the inevitable.

Yes, I know that the gear ratios on these other boxes aren't as good - but they won't make crunchy noises and scatter pieces. For high speed cruising, the Getrag is the best choice. For fun & thrills, you'd love the 4-speed Muncie.

Na I just need to get one step ahead of the busted trans and get an Isuzu cryo treated.

Or get my hands on a 3.32 4spd diff and drop it into a spare late model 3.65 4spd case then get that cryo treated.

But for today. I am going to sit back and relax. Currently its 90F in the shade. To hot to do anything. Just not use to this type of weather up here.

lol i agree to the weather statement capt. I had to come inside from painting the fence because its unbearable.

Too wet here to work on cars

I could deal with a little rain right now. Set up a tarp and keep going, but this heat is just nasty.

On a sour note, the stuff they use to fix bridge decks up here, kinda like tar. It gets soft and squishy in our abnormally warm temps. Well I just got a call, one of our more known members up here hit a rut and skidded into this greasy stuff on the Pattello bridge. (no he did not go over the bridge) However he did manage to rear end another car and do some serious damage to his Fiero. Yikes.

Kinda makes me glad that my car is parked at the moment.

With the heat I have not even touched my car for the past few days, but I went out and did some tinkering tonight. Hooked up the wiring and battery and routed some cables.

I turned the key, motor fired up fine. Have not even bled out the clutch, but for laughing sake I pushed the pedal and it was pretty solid. I rowed through the gears and all felt fine so I lifted the clutch gently on each gear and reverse. Everything seems to be good. Yippee did not even grind into reverse.

Have not driven it yet. Should be interesting. Anyone have a spare trans dipstick for an Isuzu or know what other car used the same one.

Thanks in advance.