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my 4.9 caddy swap - started as 2.8 bearing job by crazyfieromike
Started on: 08-04-2005 09:08 PM
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Report this Post08-04-2005 09:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for crazyfieromikeSend a Private Message to crazyfieromikeDirect Link to This Post
Im posting this for CrazyMike...

Ok basically for those of you who might have crossed the "i think im crazy" thread I gave Mikee a 86 Fiero SE 2M6 in trade for a damn GOOD condition tail lights, deck-lid, and fastback clip... although i DO have a fastback already mine has some patches cause it was damaged and the deck lid is TRASHED!! Oh and who would turn down mint GT tail lights?

ANYWAY... Mike can blow up ANYTHING. He is already now 1 2.8L and a 3.4L Fiero engine destroyed. Well the SE's engine developed a rod knock. A very LIGHT one too, probably totaly repairable! BUT I am all in swap mode so i convinced him to go with the 4.9L swap because its in his price range. I know cause doing the 3800SC right now isnt cheap and thats what he wanted to do. BUT since his car is down and so are his funds we decided the 4.9L is better.

We went today after securing an engine with complete wireing harness (all the way through firewall TO PCM plugs in. It was 350$ from the junk yard and he picked up a PCM for 30$ and its in the mail. Here is a photo journal of our trip today!

On the way there we crossed this billboard wich has been stirring up controversy in Cleveland for obvious reasons!

Here is the 4.9 engine at the yard we picked it up at.


Mike strapping down the engine

MAMA IM COMMIN HOOOOOOOOOOME!!!!

More pics to come....

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Report this Post08-04-2005 09:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for The FieromasterSend a Private Message to The FieromasterDirect Link to This Post
Here is pics of us working on the motor at his buddies Joe and Matt's shop.

WOo HOo V8!!!

We were SHOCKED when we saw this... 90k miles and a MINT CLEAN AMAZING valve train!!!

The shop happens to be home to Cutting Edge Limo's Joeys business... Fiero 4.9, Lincoln Limo 4.6... Fiero 0wpnz U!!

And a final one of Mikee again...

OH yea... and here is a sharp little number we saw for sale at the yard we bought mikes engine from... mmmmm Grand National!!!

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Report this Post08-04-2005 10:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for crazyfieromikeSend a Private Message to crazyfieromikeDirect Link to This Post
craig thanks for the help today and soon your motor will be out of yours and we can get going on your swap some more
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What trans are you using? If you go with auto I think you should go with the Caddy trans.
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Report this Post08-05-2005 08:08 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Exodus5Send a Private Message to Exodus5Direct Link to This Post
Why is the billboard controversial? BTW, I recently visited Cleveland on business and that station is the best I've ever heard.
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some people are taking the wake up rock hard the wrong way
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What trans are you using? If you go with auto I think you should go with the Caddy trans.

as of now i am going with the 4 speed that's already in my fiero. when i destroy that tranny that might change though.

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Yeah i believe they are taking

Wake Up........Rock Hard

as

Wake up rock hard!

Yeah id agree WMMS is the best!

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i got my computer in the mail yesterday and it turned out to be cheaper than i thought. it ended up costing me $21 total with tax and shipping and its guaranteed to work. I am still waiting on the fly wheel i need but ill get that as soon as the fieromaster gets his old motor copletly out of his fiero and off the cradle. so craig get to work lol
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Yeah id agree WMMS is the best!

I grew up listening to the home of the BUZZARD

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well unfortunitly ive been moving all weekend including today so i havent been able to work on the 4.9 at all. Hopefully i ll find some time over the week or i'll just have to wait till next weekend but ill return. i may need fieromaster help with some posting due to sbc saying it'll take 2 weeks to transfer my internet to my new place cause it takes two weeks to transfer some thing a 1/8 mile down the road.

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well its slow goingright now seen as i was stuiped at work and cut the tip of my finger off. so hopfully more work will be underway soon
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Excellent deal on that engine! I'm joining the darkside too, and am now collecting my "crap" here for my swap. I have my donor (clean '85 GT), the install kit (Ed Parks) and my 70k 4.9 (which if I told you the price you would cry). Thankfully my engine came in this handy carrying case :

Thank you old folks that cannot drive!! I'm just short the clutch and flywheel setup (still). Good luck with your swap!

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well all still not to much work done. manly due to money or lack of and helping craig fieromaster with his swap a lot latly but on the up side i do have internet back finally

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ZzZzZz........SLOW. I coulda had that swap done 10 times by now.

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Originally posted by FieroMaster88:

ZzZzZz........SLOW. I coulda had that swap done 10 times by now.

well lend me the $$ i need and i ll have it done asap

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well i finally did something for my swap i switched my valve covers over and sent my flywheel in tho get the holes welded since i cant take it to work and use my welder at work to do it
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well flywheel is all welded it ened up costing my $63.75 with tax
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well all fieromaster and i are starting to get closer to installing my 4.9 in the fiero but niether of us have done it before so any info from those who have would be greatly loved thanks ahead of time
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Yeah... deffinetly...

Mikee you hear back from Darth about PCM programing yet?

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Yeah... deffinetly...

Mikee you hear back from Darth about PCM programing yet?

not yet hope to soon though

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i just heard from darth craig he says he cant he said maybe pbj or rockcrawl
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Yeah PBJ is the one that built that wicked turbo Fiero 4.9 that i sent you videos of... Find him on here and PM him.
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started doing some more work on my car i replaced my water pump since the junk yard i gotit from said it was leaking plus the bearing felt like it was going bad. now i have a question for alll you people out ther with a 4.9 manual. i am goin to go with the muncie 4 speed what clutch kit do you recomend me get and where do i get for about how much thanks for the help
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I used a spec III with my 4.9 turbo swap, so far no complaints. Oh yeah, Im using a 4 spd also.
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I used a spec III with my 4.9 turbo swap, so far no complaints. Oh yeah, Im using a 4 spd also.

where do i get it and about how much are they

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I can get you a spec stage 3 clutch for about $280 Mike. Thats what I used on my swap. Hopefully I can come visit in the next couple weeks and I'll give you a ride. I also have the plactic intake part you need.
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spec 3 on my 4.9 and holding nicely
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i am in need for help i cant get ahold of rockcrawl to repprogram my chip been trying for like a month so if any one else knows someone that can do please please let me know plus i am trying to get someone to fab my front motor mount since i am not going to have a ton of time to do the swap once i start thanks for all the help
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have you tried to reach him at his website? PBJ seems to know him. Some folks here have his number, maybe they will call him for you.

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have you tried to reach him at his website? PBJ seems to know him. Some folks here have his number, maybe they will call him for you.

if some one on here would call him and get him in contact with me there would be much love i am in desperate need here

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well were one week away from the cram fest trying to do this swap in 3 days if any one has any last minute tips sugestions or anything at all to help please please speak up thanks all
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will a fiero 2.8 starter work or do i need the caddy starter
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bump cause i need help
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bump cause i need help

I coulda told you that a long time ago.

And yes, you need the caddy starter.

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well after many problems the swap has started butstill have problems the machinist that did my fly wheel screwed up the bolt pattern so had to start all over i am on the third motor and now me and fieromaster have spent a day and a half try to get the motor out the front cradle bolts are siezed into the bushings so where haveing to cut them out went through 5 saw blades and didnt get very far so today where going to try cut off wheels on my die grinder to get the last bolt off
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well after many problems the swap has started butstill have problems the machinist that did my fly wheel screwed up the bolt pattern so had to start all over i am on the third motor and now me and fieromaster have spent a day and a half try to get the motor out the front cradle bolts are siezed into the bushings so where haveing to cut them out went through 5 saw blades and didnt get very far so today where going to try cut off wheels on my die grinder to get the last bolt off

Damn man, that sucks! I didnt know you were having soo many problems. I'll probably be coming to visit in a couple weeks so if it's not done I can help you out.

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Ok you can chock this up as bad motor number THREE!!!!!!!!!!!

It also is frozen so solid we broke 1 drive ratchet, 1 breaker bar, and 2 step downs trying to turn the engine over... Hell we even tried the starter AND breaker but NO GO!

STAY AWAY FROM DENNISON AUTO PARTS.... THEY ARE EVIL - Craig G. opinion

Using the bad engine to do the fab work though...

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well picked up motor # 4. so the good news this motor at least rotates we got the front mount fad and i am looking inot getting a new cradle since mines well pretty rocked. tommorow were fabing the exhaust up and trying to get the new water pump on and change the valve covers over. i am gona nee dfieromasters help to post the pics we go tcause i am to retarded to figure out posting pics
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