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My rear defuser by 3.8 SC
Started on: 06-02-2005 10:02 PM
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Report this Post06-02-2005 10:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 3.8 SCSend a Private Message to 3.8 SCDirect Link to This Post
I have had a lot of people ask me where I got the rear defuser, that is under the rear bumper of my Fiero.
I didn't want to hi-jack another thread, to talk about it. So I am putting it together here. It is a wing off of an 82 Trans Am.
I don't have a lot of pics, because when I get started on a project, I forget to take photos as I go. So I will try my best to discribe what I have done.

Here is another wing, that was given to me. This is to show what I started with. The wing is the only thing that you will get from the salvage yard.

Yes, I know when is it going to paint!


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Report this Post06-02-2005 10:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 3.8 SCSend a Private Message to 3.8 SCDirect Link to This Post
Can anyone guess what was modified in this photo, to get the defuser to fit?

More to come!
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Report this Post06-02-2005 10:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ace35Send a Private Message to ace35Direct Link to This Post
Can anyone guess what was modified in this photo, to get the defuser to fit?

The stands!

Very nice work...I really like it.

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Report this Post06-02-2005 11:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for F-I-E-R-OSend a Private Message to F-I-E-R-ODirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 3.8 SC:
I forget to take photos as I go. So I will try my best to discribe what I have done.

Man you (insert explative here)

I look forward to at least reading about what you've done on this mod, though it probably won't be as interesting as bubbajoe's!

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Report this Post06-03-2005 09:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RACEClick Here to visit RACE's HomePageSend a Private Message to RACEDirect Link to This Post
That is the best one that I have seen yet. It looks like it should actually provide usable downforce and fill the aerodynamic void behind the car.

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Report this Post06-03-2005 10:57 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Cheever3000Send a Private Message to Cheever3000Direct Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by 3.8 SC:

... The wing is the only thing that you will get from the salvage yard...

Or from the 82 T/A at the house down the street (late at night)! He'll never recognize it upside-down on the underside of my Fiero!

Thanks for the thread. It looks great!

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Report this Post06-03-2005 03:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jscott1Send a Private Message to jscott1Direct Link to This Post
If a normal spoiler provides downforce wouldn't an upside down one produce lift?

Just kidding, I know the answer is you adjust the angle of attack to produce negative lift or downforce.

It looks good. When I make some adjustments to my diffuser I'll post them in the other thread.

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Report this Post06-03-2005 03:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
Very simple and interesting. A good use of "re-using" Pontiac old parts-----Good job. Do you have a closer pic?
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Report this Post06-03-2005 04:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 3.8 SCSend a Private Message to 3.8 SCDirect Link to This Post
Thanks to all that replied! As far as adding down force - I don't really see it doing much.
I did this to blend in the ground effects that I made from Z-24 side skirts. Now, on with the build.

Yes, I had to move the stand offs, in 6" on each side, so that they would not be in the exhaust cut outs.
Basically, I measured from the stand off, in 6" on both sides. Then made perpendicular cuts across the wing.

Make sure that you only cut though one layer. These wings are two pieces, laminated together.
WARNING! Lots of fiber glass dust. Wear a dust mask, when using a cutoff wheel.
After you make the cuts, CAFEFULLY pry the the two stand offs up and swap sides.


After you swap the stand offs, re-glue them and clamp the wing. Then let it dry.
Add a little filler, then sand it all smooth. Now you are ready to put it on the car.

The filler in the photo is what I used though out the whole build. This filler is flexible.

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Report this Post06-03-2005 05:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 3.8 SCSend a Private Message to 3.8 SCDirect Link to This Post

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When putting the defuser on the bumper, I used four 4" carriage bolts with washers and nuts.
I drilled four holes, all of the way though the stand offs. Two of the bolts will go though the bumper skin
and the other two will go though the trunk floor.

As for the ends of the wing. I just riveted them to the bumper skin with a thin backing plate on the back side of the bumper.
Then I added the Z-24 side skirt pieces that I made up. And then finished that part of the project from there.

If you are not adding anything to the side of the car, you can blend the defuser into the bumper with fiberglass mat for a smooth look.
But the ends, have to have some kind of fastener or they will rip off the car.
If there is anything that I left out or not sure of. Please let me know.

Now, if I could only get the car into paint!

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Report this Post06-03-2005 05:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fiero_AdamSend a Private Message to Fiero_AdamDirect Link to This Post
I like it. I may try one for mine, that still hasn't made it to paint yet.
Looks good, as does the rest of the car.

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Report this Post08-24-2005 11:32 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fourpoint9Click Here to visit fourpoint9's HomePageSend a Private Message to fourpoint9Direct Link to This Post
Where did you get the side skirts? Very nice.
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Report this Post08-24-2005 11:48 AM Click Here to See the Profile for exoticseSend a Private Message to exoticseDirect Link to This Post

Nice work.

Wait till you see the custom diffuser one other forum member has put together !

He is going to debut it at Daytona 2006.

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Report this Post08-24-2005 11:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for The FieromasterSend a Private Message to The FieromasterDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by fourpoint9:

Where did you get the side skirts? Very nice.

The side skirts are from a Cavalier Z24 the older body style ones... I think 88-94...

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Report this Post08-24-2005 11:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 3.8 SCSend a Private Message to 3.8 SCDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for the compliments! As for when it goes to paint - It should be going in two weeks. My painter is having some problems at the moment and I haven't got the T-roof in yet. I have, also, been helping out with an Indy - Fiero project.

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My rear defuser
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Report this Post08-25-2005 11:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for exoticseSend a Private Message to exoticseDirect Link to This Post

3.8 SC

What rims and what size are you going to put on the car ?

What color is the car going to be ?

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Report this Post08-25-2005 01:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for roys88fieroClick Here to visit roys88fiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to roys88fieroDirect Link to This Post
Very nice! I like it. I wonder how it would look on a fastback I am defenetly going to try that when I finally decide to paint my GT. Good work!
-Roy

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Report this Post08-25-2005 04:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 3.8 SCSend a Private Message to 3.8 SCDirect Link to This Post
Here is a link to the paint scheme that is going on the Fiero.

//www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000002/HTML/20050818-1-050092.html

The rims are TSW Kyalami Rims. 17X7 front - 17X8 rear

The tires are going to be BFGoodrich G-force KW. I am not sure on the sizes yet. I just know I want the back tires to be wide.

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My rear defuser
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Report this Post08-25-2005 04:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for exoticseSend a Private Message to exoticseDirect Link to This Post

Ok yeah i remember that paint thread. Very Cool !

You will have one very sharp and distinctive fiero when you are finished.

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