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Here is my new decklid! How's it look? (5 pics) by Oreif
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Report this Post12-01-2003 05:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
I picked up my newly modified decklid last week. Here are pic's of the new scoop.
If you look closely you can see how high the Edelbrock Triangle air cleaner sits on a carb'd engine.

How does it look?

(Sorry I had to "brighten" the pics a little because being a black car and in the low light level in the garage I wanted to show the details.)



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Report this Post12-01-2003 05:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Joe TormaClick Here to visit Joe Torma's HomePageSend a Private Message to Joe TormaDirect Link to This Post
oooh, that's nice. I like.
I made one from scratch that is off to one side like that, but mine goes back further.

Good job!

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Report this Post12-01-2003 05:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Kelvin VivianSend a Private Message to Kelvin VivianDirect Link to This Post
Looks great. I like how it adds onto the existing hump. - kv

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thats sorta interesting
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Umm. Nope! Don't like it, Think the Black makes it look toooo dark. Now I would love it in yellow!

j/k. I like it, small but nice big impact on the looks.

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Originally posted by Kelvin Vivian:

Looks great. I like how it adds onto the existing hump. - kv

The scoop was trimmed to match the curve of the hump then glassed in. It is centered over the carb. It is a 1970-1973 Trans Am reproduction scoop. (Got it for $29.00 on Ebay) I had to go with a repro because I didn't want the metal ring that normally attaches to the T/A air cleaner.

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I like it! And with the black paint it gives your car a "sleeper" look to it . Nicely done! And you get a plus for not only form, but also function!

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Report this Post12-01-2003 09:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for STRATOHACKERSend a Private Message to STRATOHACKERDirect Link to This Post
I was wondering if you got it back yet. That looks really trick. Hope you get to drive it some before the snow gets out of hand.
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Report this Post12-01-2003 09:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JohnnyKSend a Private Message to JohnnyKDirect Link to This Post
it looks good.. But you will now have a low air pressure area back there sucking engine out of the air cleaner!
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Report this Post12-01-2003 10:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Bradbitz11Send a Private Message to Bradbitz11Direct Link to This Post
Nice, but I liked that Indy Scoop a lot. It'll grow on me.

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Report this Post12-01-2003 10:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for $Rich$Send a Private Message to $Rich$Direct Link to This Post
that Air filter looks reaaal Fimilar?

looks good!!
i was just thinking about mounting my mustang scoupe on my V8 car tonight, just a thought... it will be like 3 months before i actually Do it. lol

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any shots from the underside to show off your Craftsmanship
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Report this Post12-01-2003 11:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Dave GunsulSend a Private Message to Dave GunsulDirect Link to This Post
Nice work! I can't wait to see it in person.

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That looks great!! I really like how it builds off of the rear hump.

I give it three thumbs up!!!

Are you going to Topeka?

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Originally posted by JohnnyK:

it looks good.. But you will now have a low air pressure area back there sucking engine out of the air cleaner!

Not with the IMSA spoiler it won't. The Spoiler scoops the air since the spoiler is wider than the body of the car and it'll be more like cowl induction. I'm also thinking about sealing the scoop to the air cleaner.

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Report this Post12-02-2003 08:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
Really very nice Orief and looks really cool, but JohnnyK may have a point.

Will it vent out, and draw air in past the forward exhaust manifold or will it pull air in the other way?

I suspect the former.

It occurs to me that if there is room, an bottom scoop with a 1" X 8" insulated channel up the firewall to the level of the air breather would allow air to be pulled directly to the air breather without making contact with the manifold. Just an idea and I don't know if the air flow engineers would think it a good one.

I've also thought about running a channel in from the side scoop, but I don't think the sidescoop can deliver enough air.

Anyway, it looks really good and will certainly pull air past the filter pretty well.

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Report this Post12-02-2003 08:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rubyredfieroSend a Private Message to rubyredfieroDirect Link to This Post
I agree, that does look awsome. I can only dream about mods like that. People like you keep us novices inspired. Thanks.
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Very nice!
I'll bet with that open air cleaner, and that scoop, open to the outside world, that they're gonna hear you coming for blocks!

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Looks good. The only thing I don't like is the fact that it's not centered on the decklid (obviously a necessity). Great idea and nice work!
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Nice!
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Did you do it because of clearence problems with the carb, of 'cause it looks good?.....Paul
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Originally posted by Paul Prince:

Did you do it because of clearence problems with the carb, of 'cause it looks good?.....Paul

I did it because the air cleaner I wanted to use needed the clearance. With the Mr. Gasket 6.5" air cleaner or the K&N 9" you have about 1/4" of clearance under the stock 85-88 decklids (notchback and GT). I wanted to use the Edelbrock Triangle and it is about 1/2" too tall for the decklid, hence I needed the scoop. I thought about the Mustang scoop or like Tina's, But I settled on this one just to be different.

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Dave,
Curious as to how the underside is finished? Can we see some pics of the decklid up?
But all in all it looks fantastic, your car is truely one of the best Fiero's I have ever seen

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As expected...very nice Dave. I like the creative personal touch.
Was wondering about the motor, is it living up to your expectations ? You no I'm impatiently waiting on that write up !!
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Originally posted by Zoom88:

As expected...very nice Dave. I like the creative personal touch.
Was wondering about the motor, is it living up to your expectations ? You no I'm impatiently waiting on that write up !!

The engine so far is better than expected. I had some issues adjusting the TV cable, But that has all been corrected.

I'll take pics tomorrow of the bottom side of the scoop and post them here.

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Here are the underside pics.
(I haven't cleaned/detailed the underside yet)

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Originally posted by Oreif:

I had some issues adjusting the TV cable, But that has all been corrected.

Please elaborate. Did you adjust all the way out and then go in a notch, or cable all the way in and rotate TB???????? Paul

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Originally posted by Paul Prince:

Please elaborate. Did you adjust all the way out and then go in a notch, or cable all the way in and rotate TB???????? Paul

To set the adjustment I moved the cable all the way out then rotated the throttle and let it ratchet out. The two problems I had was the distance from the mount to the carb and how much the cable needed to move. The cable needs to move the length of the internal spring. Which on a stock TH125 is 1.5". The mount needs to be 4.5" away from the throttle.

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Here's a question for all of you,
The hex grate is a faded flat black right now.
Should I:
A) Repaint it flat black.
B) Paint it gloss black
C) Paint it silver
D) Leave it as is

What do you think????

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I like it. Very unique touch. I think silver on the hex grate would make it stand out nicely.

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I agree, the silver is a nice touch.

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Well then I guess I'll paint it silver.
(It only looks silver in the pics because I brightened them up to show the detail of the scoop. It is actually a faded matte black right now.)
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Bah looks like someone beat me to it.
'Bout a month ago i found a '74 Trans Am
400, 455 scoop in an old UPS van. Been wundrin what to do with it.
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Originally posted by boristheblade:

Bah looks like someone beat me to it.
'Bout a month ago i found a '74 Trans Am
400, 455 scoop in an old UPS van. Been wundrin what to do with it.

Now you know.

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with a carb set-up like that, one could almost use an Indy scoop and some decklid modding to produce a very nice Ram-Air system for a 5-15hp high speed boost gain...

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Fieromonkey that is an interesting idea. Heres another one, what about two of those on the front end to let the air flow through and vent the heat. Grilles facing the driver. Hmmmm! kinda the reverse of the early 80's Firebird Formula. always loved those snorkles for some readon.

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Originally posted by FieroMonkey:

with a carb set-up like that, one could almost use an Indy scoop and some decklid modding to produce a very nice Ram-Air system for a 5-15hp high speed boost gain...

I had an Indy scoop. The problem is the center of the engine is offset from center. So the only Indy scoop I could use would be the race car version that had the box-like base. The one I had was the standard base. I went this way to be more unique and create a sleeker decklid.

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Little advice. get rid of that air filter, and do it fast. They are garbage. Alternatively, you can just think of me when you find all that melted foam gumming up your engine. Ruined a mustang years ago with that crappy filter. The foam deteriorates, and little bits wind up in your engine. It was not a case of neglect, the filter was only about a month and a half old.
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PLEASE get rid of that air filter. Had one on a 4.9 and it would suck shut when I stepped on it.Went back to the Caddy airbox an added a "civic" snorkel with a K&N cone filter.
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Originally posted by Azriel:

Little advice. get rid of that air filter, and do it fast. They are garbage. Alternatively, you can just think of me when you find all that melted foam gumming up your engine. Ruined a mustang years ago with that crappy filter. The foam deteriorates, and little bits wind up in your engine. It was not a case of neglect, the filter was only about a month and a half old.

After doing a search, I found that there have been problems with these. I'm waiting for a guy to Email me who says there is a K&N fix for it.

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