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1988 FIERO PRODUCTION NUMBERS by FIERO JOHN-WI
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Report this Post01-11-2002 05:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FIERO JOHN-WISend a Private Message to FIERO JOHN-WIDirect Link to This Post
I was going through the archieves and came across under General Chat entitled "20 grand for a fiero" anyways I guess you can't bring it back up to todays general chat (or could you?) anyways Ray b and Fformula 88 wanted the 1988 fieros stick and auto production numbers so here they are:

BASIC COUPE: 13,910 MADE
STICK 7,312
AUTO 6,598

FORMULA: 5,643 MADE
STICK 2,897
AUTO 2,746

GT: 6,849 MADE
STICK 3,799
AUTO 3,050

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Report this Post01-11-2002 07:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mrfieroSend a Private Message to mrfieroDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for posting that John. A lot of people just don't believe me (or anyone else for that matter) that it was approximaely a 50-50 split between sticks and autos.

I was surprised to see there were more stick GT's than autos. though. I have owned 6 or 7 '88 GT's and only one was a stick.

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Report this Post01-11-2002 07:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for REDHOTT88Send a Private Message to REDHOTT88Direct Link to This Post
Thanks for posting that...

I feel good that I own one of only 2,897 sticks made.

I wonder how many are actually left? I want ALL their parts!!! HeHe

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Originally posted by REDHOTT88:
Thanks for posting that...

I feel good that I own one of only 2,897 sticks made.

I wonder how many are actually left? I want ALL their parts!!! HeHe

I own one of them also....I have first dubs on parts !!!!

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Report this Post01-11-2002 09:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DRHSend a Private Message to DRHDirect Link to This Post
3rd 5 speed Formula here... Only 2,894 more to account for.

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Report this Post01-11-2002 10:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CoolBlue87GTSend a Private Message to CoolBlue87GTDirect Link to This Post
Here's some stats

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Report this Post01-12-2002 10:54 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Fformula88Send a Private Message to Fformula88Direct Link to This Post
Thanks for posting! I barely remember posting about it but hey, no prob.

I have the percentage of Fiero's year by year that were manuals. So I calculated out the approximate production numbers based on the percentages, so the numbers may be off by a couple cars here or there... say +/- 5 or so.

1984: 56.7% 4-spds 77,588
43.3% Auto 59,252
Total Fieros 136,840

1985: 21.8% 4-spd 16,648
31.2$ 5-spd 23,828
53.0% Manual 40,476
47.0% Auto 35,895
Total Fieros 76,371

1986: 21.3% 4-spd 17,886
28.6% 5-spd 24,017
49.9% Manual 41,903
50.1% Auto 42,071
Total Fieros 83,974

1987: 45.4% 5-Spd 21,148
54.6% Auto 25,433
Total Fieros 46,581

1988: 52.4% 5-spd 13,834
47.6% Auto 12,567
Total Fieros 26,401

Total 4-spds: 112,122 30.3%
5-Spds: 82,827 22.4%
Total Manuals: 194,949 52.7%
Autos: 175,218 47.3%
Total Fieros: 370,167

I also have the number of Canadian models sold, but not with any option percentages:
1984: 10,926
1985: 6,892
1986: 5,643
1987: 2,138
1988: 730

PS: Production numbers are from Pontiac Historical Services so I take them as accurate.

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Report this Post01-12-2002 11:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Indiana_resto_guySend a Private Message to Indiana_resto_guyDirect Link to This Post
I have two coupes, both are sticks, one is a factory T-Top. One Formula 5-speed, two GT's, one auto and the other a 5-speed, both are T-Top cars.
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Report this Post01-12-2002 01:10 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FIERO JOHN-WISend a Private Message to FIERO JOHN-WIDirect Link to This Post
Trust me these numbers are exactly right, this is informatiom obtained in 1990 from a Pontiac person that worked there (they got fired for using company time digging into stuff like this) Percentages are not always accurate and as the years go on "facts" I see get twisted to help someone or another to sell something and all of a sudden it's LAW, plus there where 26,402 made.

As for Indiana_resto_guy heres some stats for you:
ROOF OPTIONS FOR 88
26,402 FIERO MADE IN 88
15,240 SOLID ROOF
9,910 SUNROOF
1,252 T-TOP

AS FOR GT'S IN 88
6,849 GT MADE IN 88
2,323 PLAIN ROOF
3,912 SUNROOF
614 T-TOPS

In depth information like this will be in my book when it's done.

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AS FOR GT'S IN 88
6,849 GT MADE IN 88
2,323 PLAIN ROOF
3,912 SUNROOF
614 T-TOPS

In depth information like this will be in my book when it's done.

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To continue toward the total T-Toppers, 91 Coupes and 547 Formulas.

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Report this Post01-12-2002 09:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FIERO JOHN-WISend a Private Message to FIERO JOHN-WIDirect Link to This Post
Indiana_Resto_Guy I'm sorry to tell you but your wrong on your t-top coupe and formula numbers, it's as follows:
1252 Factory SHIP THRU T-TOPS MADE
614 GT'S
339 COUPES
299 FORMULAS
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Originally posted by FIERO JOHN-WI:
Indiana_Resto_Guy I'm sorry to tell you but your wrong on your t-top coupe and formula numbers, it's as follows:
1252 Factory SHIP THRU T-TOPS MADE
614 GT'S
339 COUPES
299 FORMULAS

I got one for you how many red formula 5-speeds t-top cjb?

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Report this Post01-13-2002 03:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Rare87GTSend a Private Message to Rare87GTDirect Link to This Post
Hey CoolBlue87GT out of those 2,139 Canadian Fieros made in 1987, do you have any access to any stats of how many of those were 5 Speed GT's with a Sunroof and Burgandy paint. I never realized that my Fiero was that rare. Only 2,139 Fieros Canadian based surprised me. I bet only a few hundred were GT's as well. If you have any way of getting stats for the Canadian sold ones in 87 that would be cool. Thanks.

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Report this Post01-13-2002 10:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mickey_MooseClick Here to visit Mickey_Moose's HomePageSend a Private Message to Mickey_MooseDirect Link to This Post
Book?!?

Hey put me down for one

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Report this Post01-13-2002 12:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FIERO JOHN-WISend a Private Message to FIERO JOHN-WIDirect Link to This Post
Lowfierogt, thats the kind of stuff that will be in my book when it's complete, 92% done right now!
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Originally posted by FIERO JOHN-WI:
Lowfierogt, thats the kind of stuff that will be in my book when it's complete, 92% done right now!

im down for one.

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Report this Post01-15-2002 08:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mrfixit58Send a Private Message to mrfixit58Direct Link to This Post
So...
- Of the 1166 Yellow cars built only 241 were GTs. Out of the 26,401 cars built that's only 0.9%.

- Assuming 55% (3799/684) of the GTs had a 5-speed stick, that means approximately 134 Yellow GT 5-speeds built.

- Assuming 9% (6849/614) got T-tops, that means only about 12 Yellow GT, 5-speed, T-top cars were built!

WOW!!!

For all those wishing to see this rare car in person, I'll have it at the Daytona show in March... Ya'll come!


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Suncoast Fieros

JUST ADDED: YELLOW 1988 GT w/ T-Tops, 5-Speed, and Performance Sound.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by mrfixit58:
[B]So...
- Of the 1166 Yellow cars built only 241 were GTs. Out of the 26,401 cars built that's only 0.9%.

I believe there were 26,402 Fieros built in 1988 Production year. FieroJohn-WI notes this in above post.

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Report this Post01-16-2002 12:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FIERO JOHN-WISend a Private Message to FIERO JOHN-WIDirect Link to This Post
Mrfixit58, assuming and percentages will never be exact only facts and what if I told you it was less (people see your post and start saying only 12 5-speed yellow GT's made) now your trying to tell people Wait,Wait it's less, then you start looking like the little boy who cried wolf. You see my point, I'm not trying to start a flame war either. What if I said there were more then 12. The facts will come out when I'm done putting it together. If you want to see how off percentages are look at Fformula 88 percentages for 1988 and add the total of the true numbers I have. Plus Do I have your vin# Roy? Email if you have any questions.
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Originally posted by Rare87GT:
Hey CoolBlue87GT out of those 2,139 Canadian Fieros made in 1987, do you have any access to any stats of how many of those were 5 Speed GT's with a Sunroof and Burgandy paint.

No, sorry. I didn't compile that list. I found it a few months back.

Hope someone might remember where that came from. It would be neat to find out about your question.

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I wonder how many med. met. red ttop coupes were made. Now that has to be a rather low number.

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Report this Post01-17-2002 06:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FIERO JOHN-WISend a Private Message to FIERO JOHN-WIDirect Link to This Post
8-ball, there are over 40 something and there are more, LET ME REPEAT! there are over 40 something and there are more, like I said the information for the book is not complete yet
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This makes me want to go out and save those fieros that sit in the junk yard these little cars ROCK!

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Sweet Thanks John,

Now I HAVE to get my hands on that car

I still want to know why no one has ever reproduced the ttop seals? I know for a fact if I had a new set to work from I could get them reproduced in about a months time. So why has no one done this?

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I got one for you how many red formula 5-speeds t-top cjb?

I have one!

 
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...Yellow GT, 5-speed, T-top cars...... WOW!!! For all those wishing to see this rare car in person, I'll have it at the Daytona show in March... Ya'll come!

Mark Hoagland has one, although it might be an auto. I have also seen one around town once or twice, but again not sure on trans type.

 
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I know for a fact if I had a new set to work from I could get them reproduced in about a months time. So why has no one done this

Cost is the most obvious reason that they are not reproduced. Have you ever seen the seals? They have molded corners. I imagine it would take thousands of dollars just to set up the tooling to make them. And then how many people are going to be willing to buy them to help cover the costs? There aren't that many T-top Fieros out there. If you could make them and sell them for $200 or even $500 a set, you'd be in bussiness, but I don't think it's possible. If you've got the ability and the cash to do it, go for it, I think you'd make a lot of T-top owners happy.

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does anybody know how many 88 red formula v6 5- speeds where made.... where they rare.. or are they worth good money.. cause thats the one i have i bought it from a used car dealer for 500 buckes it was missing a front bumber thats all... it ran awsome.. can anybody give me some numbers.. and prices on what its worth
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I think you all will find that a silver '88 (be it coupe, Formula or GT) is the lowest produced with T-Tops......far fewer than the "all-mighty" yellow ones.

The reason being is that silver '88s stopped being built in Oct. or Nov. '87......well before the T-Top production got into full swing. Besides......in March '88, when they announced the axing of the Fiero, everyone wanted a fully loaded '88, so many more T-Tops were built in the second half of the '88 production run than in the first.

It's all speculation on my part, but I personally think a silver '88 Formula with factory T-Tops is the "rarest". I guess we'll have to wait and see when John's book is done.

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anybody know how many red 88 formula v6 5-speeds where made are they rare.. and how much are they worth... i bought mine from a car dealer for 500 bucks all it was missing was the front bumper... can anybody tell me what this car is worth and how many where made...is the 5-speed trainee better than the 4
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Next level trends prez, what is your vin# you can email me at podziemj@matc.edu, first I have to check to see if it's a ship-thru t-top?
Mr.Fiero, you are correct the silver color with t-tops, is the rarest, but not only because of the 2 reasons you gave. C&C went on strike in late 1987 as well, so the Dealerships were informed, if a customer wanted the t-top option it was going to be a wait. (Little bit of History!)
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