I've waited quite a while to post this, leaving this person ample time to respond privately..
Back in the summer I did some Fiero-related business with a forum member, and I was not paid. I contacted this person several times since then and was eventually told that payment would be sent in a couple of days. I last heard from this person on Sept. 26th, and he has ignored emails sent to him ever since. This person is an active member of the forum, so he's definitely still got internet access etc.. I honestly can't think of any good reasons why he wouldn't be able to spend 2 minutes writing and mailing a check, in the last 4 months. To all of you who have helped me, and those who have done business with me, I'd like to thank you, and I'd just like to say I'd be more than happy to do business again with most of you. but to the other guy.....
Hey man, I was trying to do something nice for you, by selling something at exactly what it cost me.. I don't want to cause trouble here by listing your name.. I just wanted you to clue in that this is a very bad way to do business.. I've ALWAYS tried to be honest and helpful here on the forum and in the rest of my life, and I've come to expect that from most of the people here too.. I'm glad most of the people here wouldn't act like this to a person just trying to help out fellow Fiero enthusaists...
sorry to rant like this, everyone.. I'm just a bit disappointed in the behaviour of this individual. Unless I hear that this person is actually unwilling to pay, I won't say who it is.
Not happy at all to hear this Steve You have always been a help to me and have offered help to all on the forum!!!
I always like to give thanks to those that I do business with and have no problems with. Like I said in another post we should have something like Ebay (FEEDBACK) this way we as a group know who's who!!! Some people are just not business people!!!!! and do not live by their word This is not how this forum should be. I hope whoever this is will Take care of their business ASAP. I like knowing that there are a lot of members that will help ina drop of a dime, no questions, some give parts away, if you have a need and they have the part it's yours or they will say.....just pay the shipping!!!!! But when MONEY is due it should be paid, and paid ON TIME!!! You should not have to hound anyone that has said that they will pay you for a part or service. Especially not a follow forum member!!!!!!
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I was going to say "If it's a lot of money, I would post his name", but now that I think about it, a lot to me might not be a lot to you and vice versa. SO, if you consider it a lot of money, I would post his name. I don't anyone would really bash him or anything, unless he refuses to pay. This would also help people possibly buying from or selling to this guy. I just hope its not one of my friends then I will really be putting my foot in my mouth.
IMHO
------------------ Jeff '88 GT t-top 3.4 Baltimore, MD
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Oreif Member
Posts: 16460 From: Schaumburg, IL Registered: Jan 2000
I have had a few members that were interested in items/services I was selling. I use the 30 day method. If you Email me for something and I don't get the payment and they don't respond to an Email, I just repost the item(s) again. If they complain when they see the repost I just tell them "Sorry you had your chance".
Man, do I feel like an ass! I'm not the one who owes the Darklord, but there is some one who has helped me and I promised to pay the shipping. I forgot all about it in my eagerness to complete my dash. Mike Magliano, I still owe you for the ashtray doors. I appologize for the over site and will rectify this matter ASAP. You have the forum as a witness. I appriciate everything everyone has done for me and I have tried to be reciprical. There is no reason to outright stiff some one here. It would be a good lesson to post the individuals name if he fails to make right after this thread. It's just the way it is with buisness, you have to warn potential victims and here everyone is a potential victim.
Peace,, B2 OUT!
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88formula Member
Posts: 2361 From: Worcester, MA Registered: Oct 1999
Hmm.. Cliff informed me that this person's email address changed a couple of months ago.. I've been emailing them at the address on their website, which is also different than the address in their profile.. So there's a chance I've been sending email to the wrong account... but still, this person has known how to contact me all along.. right?
It's a damn shame that you've had to resort to this just to get this person to follow up on his obligation. My general rule of thumb....when I borrow something from someone, I return it when I say I will, if there are mitigating circumstances that don't allow me to honor that agreement, I let the owner know about it ASAP before the actual due date. Usually there are no hassles, just as long as he knows what's up. I then discuss with the owner the "extension" due date and come hell or high water, that item IS returned! I live by that rule and I expect my friends to abide by that rule with me. If I have to hunt down a tool that someone borrowed from me and they never returned it and didn't even have the balls to call me and say they've ran into a snag, well all I have to say is they don't get the opportunity to borrow from me ever again. As far as MONEY is concerned, well same rule applies. In your case however, YOU had to take the initiative to recover your fee, this person said "check is in the mail" and yet you still have not recieved payment? Maybe it got lost in the mail (Highly unlikely) but you would think if this individual cared enough, he would stay in communication with you as to whether you got your payment or not! My gut feeling on this one (I may be wrong and I will be the first to apologize if I am) is this A&%hole had every intention of not living up to his end of the bargain especially after he told you payment was sent. Steve you've waited long enough (since SEPT.? ) I say protect the rest of us and identify the perpetrator. Even if he makes amends with you and I sincerely hope he does, I for one am not willing to do any kind of buisiness with someone who is irresponsible enough to do what he's done to you. Good Luck man, Coconut
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Originally posted by Black88GT: I was going to say "If it's a lot of money, I would post his name", but now that I think about it, a lot to me might not be a lot to you and vice versa.
At this time of year, the amount is enough to make a difference... to me, at least.. but the main issue is I offered something at exactly what it cost me, and split that among several people.. one of them didn't pay, so I ended up losing money.
He should have contacted you. I think he has had more then enough time to correct this, I would post his name to protect other members. If everyone of the forum knows his name and he knows you let us know, somthing might be done about this whole situation.
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p4n1c Member
Posts: 1434 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Dec 2000
That's around what, the 3rd or 4th time you've been burned Steve? I wouldn't let this one slide. When you're a poor college student you need all the money you can get, especially to buy a Fiero in the spring.
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I just got an email, and in it the person assumed they knew who this person was. Just to set the record straight in case people are talking amongst themselves, the person in question is NOT Tom.
Tom has been quite helpful to me in the past, and I think he's a really cool guy..
Dude, just post his name...he deserves it. Why are you doing this guy favors? He screwed you, so at least let us know who this guy is, so we don't run into him.
Hey Darklord, I've had the same problem with a certain forum member too. I wonder if its the same person. Sent some stuff to him for a trade, made up some story about the neighbors dog breaking the part that he was supposed to send to me. Promised he would make it right. But nothing. This is a high post member too. I see him on here trying to barter with other members, after the deal with me. Just chaps my a__! If he can afford to buy somebody elses parts, he can surely pay me. Maybe he's scamming other members. I know of one incident for sure.
Sorry, I'll get of the soap box now. Just needed to vent.
TL
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Seanh Member
Posts: 1557 From: North Platte, NE, USA Registered: Jul 2000
Hey Lambo, could you email me privatly who this person is? I think I know of some one else who has had trouble with them. And for all: If youve had trouble with a Forum member, please let others know. Not to slam that person, but to protect other peoples investments. Just from seeing most people's comments on here, I would just about trust any active member on this Forum, seems that most people are very trustworthy people, but there is always an exception.
------------------ Sean's Fiero Page Sean Heberly Silver 86 GT 2.8 Auto Going on to 3.4 in Jan. "It's always in the last place you look." Of course it is. Why would you keep looking after you've found it? Do people do this? Who and where are they?
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DXR_DAD Member
Posts: 2440 From: so. san francisco, ca Registered: Mar 99
This type of topic has been getting alot of air time and it's just not right. I just read another post somewhat the same thing!!!!! With all our new members, lets not give then the wrong impression?????, Yes there are people that do wrong, rip-off, don't follow through and so-on, but all and all this is the best place to be for fiero info and parts Once I find out about a person doing this type of stuff there is no way I would give them my business!!!! some not even the time of day. When I find a good person/company they can bet I'll be back! I just had very good dealings with Fierodave, 007Doug, but I do understand that they are in the fiero selling business and thats a plus. The parts were just as stated, the shipping was faster than most, Both will get my business even if the wait is a little longer and price a little higher than somebody closer that I don't know about...... or I do know about? Also I help those that help me!!!
I'm happy to report that today I received a check in the mail from this person.. it's a little late, considering when we did business, but I did get paid.
Originally posted by DaRkLoRD: I'm happy to report that today I received a check in the mail from this person.. it's a little late, considering when we did business, but I did get paid.
thanks!
glad u finally got it-------its not rite but people do it. If I got any trading to do buy or sell, I try to make it a hands on deal, either i take em the part or money, and they meet me in person. Sometimes I know this is out of the question but its better than taking the risk. I sold a set of new wheels with tires to a guy in Mass - i had him make a bank wire transfer before i sent them.He had to take the risk, but better him than me. Its a shame theres so many out there to burn you.
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2xsess Member
Posts: 3259 From: Asheboro, NC Registered: Aug 2000
Originally posted by 2xsess: WOOHOO...I'm so glad to hear that you finally got that resolved Steve.
me too..
now, to get another web design client to hurry up and get me the files I need to finish their site.... as soon as that's all done I'll get another $1,200 or so... (that's half of next semester's tuition...)