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Front Suspension Removal, the HARD Way! by RWDPLZ
Started on: 09-02-2012 04:14 PM
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Last post by: nitroheadz28 on 09-25-2012 11:56 PM
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Report this Post09-02-2012 04:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZClick Here to visit RWDPLZ's HomePageSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
Rebuilding the front suspension, the old parts refused to cooperate. On the upper control arm, the bushings didn't sieze to the bolt, but of all things, the front caster washer did! Thought I could chop off the end of the control arm and slide it off, but there's barely enough room under there to slide the bolt out, not even close if the arm is still attached.

The lower was REAL fun, both bolts siezed to the bushings. Cut them strategically to get close enough with the cut-off wheel on the grinder, the sawzall was worthless against the hardened bolts.

One side down, now just need to clean it up and POR15 it. New control arms are already assembled with new ball joints and poly bushings. These don't looks like they would have been salvageable anyway.



To my utter shock, both of these ball joints had been replaced at some point in the past. The lower was still nice and tight. Replacing it and the uppers with Rodney's.
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Report this Post09-02-2012 07:49 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BloozberrySend a Private Message to BloozberryDirect Link to This Post
Note to self: Never let RWDPLZ near my cars.

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Report this Post09-03-2012 12:21 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hairballrmClick Here to visit hairballrm's HomePageSend a Private Message to hairballrmDirect Link to This Post
Just think of the damage you could do with a fire wrench

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Report this Post09-03-2012 01:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for crashyoungSend a Private Message to crashyoungDirect Link to This Post
The blue wrench may have done better.
But it looks like those have seen a winter or two.
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Report this Post09-03-2012 09:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TONY_CSend a Private Message to TONY_CDirect Link to This Post
I just replaced every suspension component on my 84, the only part not changed was the steering rack. It would have been impossible to remove all the bolts without damage without PB Blaster and a good air hammer.
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Report this Post09-03-2012 09:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for E.FurgalSend a Private Message to E.FurgalDirect Link to This Post
remember to anti seize the crap out of the bolts..
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Report this Post09-03-2012 10:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
Just invest in an oxy-acetylene torch and you'll never have a problem removing any bolt or nut.

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Report this Post09-06-2012 12:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZClick Here to visit RWDPLZ's HomePageSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
Got the other side removed tonight, the same way, except the upper control arm came out intact. Lower was uncooperative again.

Then decided to try to remove the brackets that hold the crossmember to the frame. I think this is the first time I've seen bolt heads actually missing large portions from just rusting away. Got them all out with heating them with a MAPP torch, except for one, had to weld a nut to the head of the bolt so I could get something to wrench on. Took a couple nuts, the first one I had the heat set too high, and blew the nut in half. I remember seeing once someone made new ones, but I'm having trouble finding the thread...
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Report this Post09-25-2012 11:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RWDPLZClick Here to visit RWDPLZ's HomePageSend a Private Message to RWDPLZDirect Link to This Post
Yes I work slow, still waiting for some rubber steering rack mounting bushings I HOPE will work, because the old ones are rock hard an a bit loose, and NOBODY has a listing for 84-87 Fiero steering rack bushings. I took the crossmember out, took a wire wheel to it, and painted it in POR15. All the bolts have antiseize on them. Prothane polyurethane control arm bushings, poly sway bar mounting bushings and end links, and Rodney Dickman's upper and lower ball joints. Rodney's ball joint seperator made getting them off EASY. Here's the rebuilt suspension on the passenger side:







I also took apart the rack, repainted it with some silver caliper paint I had, replaced the bushing with Rodney's, and replaced all the old grease.





Taking the rack apart wasn't as hard as it looks, once I figured out how to adjust the preload with the bad instructions from the service manual. Also used Rodney's tool for that. The inner and out tie rod ends are also Rodney's, replaced those a few years ago.

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Report this Post09-25-2012 11:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for nitroheadz28Send a Private Message to nitroheadz28Direct Link to This Post
Nice work! I remember doing all that on my car, I actually really enjoyed it despite hitting a few bumps (it was my first time ever doing any suspension work).

I definitely appreciate how simple the suspensions are to work with on these cars, dealing with rusty bolts really sucked though.
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