It does for me! Instead of having to buy from ebay or the fierostore, I can get these locally for cheap, plus they have a one year warranty! Now I don't know anything about Duralast (Autozone's brand), but I'm thinking this may solve everyone's problem of having an economic alternative to spending more than $150 bucks for one hub assembly. I was wondering if anyone else has these yet.
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cam-a-lot Member
Posts: 2211 From: Barrie- Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2010
Let us know if it is the correct bearing. I have been burned a couple of times on this: the auto supply catalog didn't differentiate between 87 and 88 front wheel bearings.
Hmm... Can they actually *GET* them? IE, in the store to put in your hand? They've been listed in catalogs for years, but no one can actually get one delivered.
Regarding $80 vs. $150 bearings... you get what you pay for. I'd rather spend $150 (I'd go $250+ for a motorsport capable bearing) each to replace them and be done with it than buy a new set of $80 bearings every year.
If they have a lifetime warranty, I'll just replace them for free every few years and get both bearings for less than ONE costs from The Fiero Store...not like I'm doing suspension work every few years anyway.
For the record, I hear many reports of Duralast parts being crap, but I have never personally experienced a failure or had any complaints. I bought LOTS of Duralast parts before I got a shop account at O'reilly.
If they have a lifetime warranty, I'll just replace them for free every few years and get both bearings for less than ONE costs from The Fiero Store...not like I'm doing suspension work every few years anyway.
They don't, they have a 1 year warranty.
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Apr 24th, 2011
duckwalk39 Member
Posts: 355 From: Daly City, CA, USA Registered: Apr 2004
Well I just ordered them, the manager said they'll be here on Tuesday. I'll let you know how they look and if they're even the right part, but yeah, the picture sure looked correct for 88 hubs.
Regarding $80 vs. $150 bearings... you get what you pay for. I'd rather spend $150 (I'd go $250+ for a motorsport capable bearing) each to replace them and be done with it than buy a new set of $80 bearings every year.
I do agree to an extent... However, a national automotive chain can buy in bulk; maybe making 5 or 10 thousand units in one shot. This significantly reduces the production cost...
Guess we will wait and see how the quality is... Either way, its nice to have choices...
2. Duralast wheel bearings are CRAP. They're better than already bad bearings, but I don't think they'll last long. Duralast = China
If anyone wants to try, part # DL513040
HOPEFULLY Timken will start making them again.
I talked to the on the phone with someone at Autozone trying to figure out exactly who made these, and she said that they are Timkens. I dont know how she would know, but she insisted that they were made by Timken
I have used plenty duralast parts in my shop for my customers and have not had any returns or bad parts. Federal Mogul is supposed to make their chassis parts and I use them alot on a daily basis and quality seems good. Im in good with the store manager at autozone as we spend 6-7k a week with them on my commercial account. I will have them order some and talk to him and find out where they are made.
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fieroguru Member
Posts: 12477 From: Champaign, IL Registered: Aug 2003
The autozone website lists both the Duralast and Timken front wheel bearings for the 88... I am pretty sure the Timken is no longer available (part number isn't even included in Timken's catalog), and it is a crap shot if the duralast one can actually be purchased.
They are not Timken. Duralast bearings are made by Bearing Tech and Fenwick (Fenco). Put a Timken bearing next to a Duralast bearing, and the difference will usually jump out at you. The Duralast box will usually say 'made in China' and the Timken box WILL NOT.
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jelly2m8 Member
Posts: 6261 From: Nova Scotia, Canada Registered: Jul 2001
For 80 bux I'd certainly give them a try. I hear stories of the E-bearings fail but haven't seen any proof, I installed a set on a 3800SC swap with 17" wheels and 12" rotors and that car has been drag raced, autocrossed and pounded around Shannonville raceway and the bearings are still fine ~5 years later.
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Apr 25th, 2011
Will Member
Posts: 14278 From: Where you least expect me Registered: Jun 2000
They are not Timken. Duralast bearings are made by Bearing Tech and Fenwick (Fenco). Put a Timken bearing next to a Duralast bearing, and the difference will usually jump out at you. The Duralast box will usually say 'made in China' and the Timken box WILL NOT.
The way Chinese turbos , including the bearings inside them, have been improving in quality, these non-Timken bearings may become decent as well.
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Will Member
Posts: 14278 From: Where you least expect me Registered: Jun 2000
I'm as Buy-American! as anyone. But in some few instances, China is the only option. Besides, Timken sold us up the river, they don't deserve our business even if they brought back the bearings in question. And why should we punish the Chinese laborers for the sins of their crooked government. I'm in the same boat as those poor Chinese laborers, suffering the sins of a crooked American government.
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Doesn't mean it's desirable to buy anything from China, since they are waging economic war on us.
Exactly. If you buy China parts ON PURPOSE (especially if it's just to save money) then you are part of the problem. Not only are you sending your money to - SUPPORTING - a regime that has the worst human rights record, but they own all our debt & are helping to CAUSE our economic woes intentionally. Not only that, but you're buying CRAP. It's another way they're laughing all the way to bank. I have THREE devices (frankendolly, the rotisserie, & a Fiero rear cradle substitute) that are current DISABLED because the crappy china inner tubes split at the seams & I CAN"T FIND ANY MADE IN THE US! Don't you watch the news? Remember when their toothpaste was banned from import because it contained POISON? So they put it in with toothbrushes & KEPT SENDING IT TO US??? ~ Paul aka "Tha Driver"
China scorecard: 1) Bolts not up to grade. The *aircraft* industry had several failures because they were marked a higher grade than they were. They no longer use imported bolts. 2) Poison pet food. 3) Poison pet food - again. 4) Tires that blow out. 5) Poison toothpaste. Contains the same toxic that's found in anti-freeze. 6) More poison toothpaste. Combined with toothbrushes so that it could be imported as "toothbrushes", to get rid of the poison toothpaste! 7) Toys made of lead. Imported by Mattel. 8) Toys with lead paint & small magnets that can kill children if swallowed. Imported by Fisher Price. 9) Poison pet food - the third time. 10) Poison children's paint sets - sold at Toys R Us. 11) Bugs in candy bars. 12) More (nearly a million recalled) Mattel toys with lead paint. 13) Flip-Flops at wallmart that cause a rash. 14) 1 million baby cribs recalled after 3 children die. 15) About 1.5 million Thomas the tank engine toys. 16) "Play Yards" with strings that strangle children. 17) Happy Giddy Garden toys that - you guessed it - contain lead. 18) Purple haloween pails from Dollar Stores that contain lead. 19) Disney Winnie the Pooh dolls that contain lead. 20) Bead kits that contain lead. 21) 500,000 KB toys wooden blocks. 22) Baby Einstien toys. 23) "Discover & Play" blocks. 24) 1.5 MILLION Cub Scouts "Totem" badges that contain lead. 25) Levels that are NOT LEVEL! Try building a house with that!!! 26) Recall of certain children's items due to a lead exposure risk or entrapment/suffocation/choking hazard. The products include Halloween-themed baskets, children's jewelry, shaving paint brushes, pencil pouches, Boppy pillow slipcovers, flashing pacifiers, and storage racks with canvas totes. **) Hell there's so many on the news every night I can't write them down fast enough! FAR more than I've listed here.
Made in China: NOT gonna' buy ya'.
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I hate China crap just as much as the next guy, but I also don't like one company having a monopoly on 88 bearings and charging almost 400$ for a set. If nothing else, this should reduce the price of quality bearings.
IMO there should be a MUCH higher tax on all imported goods. We don't start making stuff here again and regain a little of our lost industrial might, we're screwed. But that's a discussion for another forum...
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Apr 26th, 2011
duckwalk39 Member
Posts: 355 From: Daly City, CA, USA Registered: Apr 2004
I hate China crap just as much as the next guy, but I also don't like one company having a monopoly on 88 bearings and charging almost 400$ for a set. If nothing else, this should reduce the price of quality bearings.
LOL.... Check on the price of Corvette wheel bearings. GOOD bearings cost money.
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TopNotch Member
Posts: 3537 From: Lawrenceville, GA USA Registered: Feb 2009
Until somebody actually puts one of these on their car and drives it for a while (including some good mountain curve driving), we'll never know of they are good or not. However, the pictures look just like the Chinese 88 hubs sold on Ebay. I have one of those, but not on a car. I also have two good used OEM bearings in my garage. And my car's bearings are still good, so I don't need to do any testing right now.
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01:26 PM
TopNotch Member
Posts: 3537 From: Lawrenceville, GA USA Registered: Feb 2009
I'm sure these are all the same bearings no matter who sells it. I'm quite sure they are all from the same China manufacturer in different boxes. I was going to have some made but I'll wait and see how these hold up. If they are OK I will probably not have any made.
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Apr 27th, 2011
Will Member
Posts: 14278 From: Where you least expect me Registered: Jun 2000
I'm sure these are all the same bearings no matter who sells it. I'm quite sure they are all from the same China manufacturer in different boxes. I was going to have some made but I'll wait and see how these hold up. If they are OK I will probably not have any made.
Probably the same situation as with the aftermarket clutch master and slave cylinders... No matter whose name is on the box, it was made out of the same swiss cheese from the same foundry in China.
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rourke_87_T-Top Member
Posts: 1347 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jan 2009
Well I just ordered them, the manager said they'll be here on Tuesday. I'll let you know how they look and if they're even the right part, but yeah, the picture sure looked correct for 88 hubs.
Just wondering what the scoop is on these?
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Apr 29th, 2011
Carver1 Member
Posts: 2843 From: Edgewood, New Mexico Registered: Nov 2000
Well I picked these up today, and they look fine, I'll take a picture tomorrow when I get home, but due to my work schedule, I can't put these on until next Saturday. I mean, anything is better than what I have right now!
Well I picked these up today, and they look fine, I'll take a picture tomorrow when I get home, but due to my work schedule, I can't put these on until next Saturday. I mean, anything is better than what I have right now!
So... where did it (the box or the part) say they came from?
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duckwalk39 Member
Posts: 355 From: Daly City, CA, USA Registered: Apr 2004
Well I picked these up today, and they look fine, I'll take a picture tomorrow when I get home, but due to my work schedule, I can't put these on until next Saturday. I mean, anything is better than what I have right now!
Everything "looks" fine until you break out the micrometer and the hardness tester.
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Xanth Member
Posts: 6886 From: Massachusetts Registered: May 2006
Ok, sorry about the pics, couldn't figure out how to upload them on the site. But interesting fact, I dunno if a lot of us on the forum have been ordering them lately, but me thinks they're running low on their supply at the Autozone warehouse now because THEY NOW COST $144 EACH...what happened in these last 30 days that almost doubled the price?!