i have a 1988 pontiac fiero gt...etc etc.. i need a new distributor and i have a couple options open... i can do the original looking ocolet distributor from fierostore.com for $169 + $50 core charge or i can go get the A1 cardone distributor for $115.. are the A1 Cardones nice or do they have problems.. i know the design up top is different but would it be worth it to just get the same distributor on fierostore for the extra money or not? any suggestions..
Rebuild the original with AC Delco pickup coil, and have a parts store test the ignition module a few times in a row to get it nice and hot, if it's still good, put new thermal paste on it and reuse it.
Cardone VS Fiero Store, if the price difference is THAT big, I'd go Cardone. Would NOT trust their module, though.
I've done 3 now, it's EASY!
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11:55 PM
Dec 13th, 2010
Blacktree Member
Posts: 20770 From: Central Florida Registered: Dec 2001
I've been using a Cardone distributer for a couple years. It has worked perfectly for me. The ignition module that came with it is a no-name brand, but did not fail. I kept a spare in the trunk, anyway.
I just recently switched to DIS, so all my distributer-related parts are now unneeded. If you want any of it, drop me a PM and I'll hook you up.
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donuteater306 Member
Posts: 688 From: San Francisco, CA USA Registered: Feb 2010
I went with the Cardone distributor a few months ago too but i used a Delco module. I am happy with this distributor. Other aftermarket units that I examined had a very weak magnet. I could spin the shaft by hand and not feel much if any magnetic pull. Also, things didnt line up very well. The Cardone just seemed to be built well.
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Old Lar Member
Posts: 13797 From: Palm Bay, Florida Registered: Nov 1999
I put in a cardone in my 88 GT from AutoZone. I had a junk one for a core. I kept the one it replaced in my extra parts box, along with a new distributor, modual and wires. The ignition components do wear out and I was starting to have issues with those components.
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DLCLK87GT Member
Posts: 2694 From: South Jersey, USA Registered: Feb 2009
What’s wrong with what you have? Mine was rusted up pretty badly from sitting for years but rebuilt it following that video (above) I pulled it, turned it upside down and filled the shaft with carb cleaner as it wouldn’t turn. I let it sit overnight and then with a little work it freed up. Then pulled apart, cleaned off all the rust (1000 grit on shaft) replaced the PU coil, reassembled with new cap and rotor and it works great. Cost was minimal for PU coil.
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gmctyphoon1992 Member
Posts: 693 From: Lighthouse Pt, Florida Registered: Jun 2010
I have a similar problem with rust but mines pretty bad since its the original distributor... but my module is going and the PU coil is shot completely (thats probably the reason along with the tach filter for the irradic tach ).. the magnet doesnt seem to be holding up to well either...i pretty sure this is from my distributor also but i have white residue on my points which means it is running lean but i smell gas heavily from the exhaust which means it would be running rich so really can figure out what the problem is there...i bet i have bad sensors all over the place and leaks in my vacumn lines.. i really need to just look up all the codes i am getting but i dont have that thing yet so im waiting for that....... i figure instead of spending alot of time replacing almost all the parts on the distributor i might as well just by a new one... its too bad that MSD doesnt make their own distributor for the fiero it would make hooking up the MSD ignition box so much easier... also i heard good things about the A1 Cardone on their star shaped points.. apparently its supposed to burn better..
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gmctyphoon1992 Member
Posts: 693 From: Lighthouse Pt, Florida Registered: Jun 2010
RWDPLZ, i might actually rebuild my old one and still buy the new one.. keep the old one as a spare.. good suggestion though if i had more time i would do it your way... and thanks for the video its very helpful since im mostly a visual learner lol....
i would drop a pm blacktree but i think i am going to go brand new on this one.. thanks though
and DLCLK87GT that is the funniest avatar i have ever seen lmao!
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Patrick Member
Posts: 36389 From: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada Registered: Apr 99
if you zoom out ahahaha... well it is definitely not as bad as that picture.. but cleaning it up isnt the only thing wrong with it... the magnetic pole seems weak..also i keep taking the rust off it and making it clean and nice it keeps coming back and getting worse..... idk i think the day i take it out ill just clean it up real well and see how the car runs.. if it still gives me problems ill buy a new one and use that one as a spare..
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phonedawgz Member
Posts: 17091 From: Green Bay, WI USA Registered: Dec 2009
I bought my 86 GT almost three years ago, and the first thing I did was replace that cheap, rusty distributor. I think those old stock ones did come off the Titanic ;-) LOL! Just one look tells you how superior the whole distributor design and construction is. I thought the same thing about the cheap module, but it has performed perfectly for me also...that's with about 20K miles on it. My son put a Cardone on his '65 GT before I did, and his was running strong after about 30K miles...until he fell asleep at the wheel and totaled it. Totally wiped out the car, but the engine was still running great! Maybe because it had a Cardone...do you think? ;-) It did take the G-forces of a sudden stop from 60mph!
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Dec 16th, 2010
Rolling Thunder Member
Posts: 1244 From: College Station, TX Registered: Aug 2008
I've worked at O'Reilly's for 18 months and I don't remember ever having to warranty a Cardone distributor. Besides, with a lifetime warranty, it's a good deal. Just make sure the guy at the counter takes down your phone number so you don't have to hold onto the receipt.
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Danny Member
Posts: 65 From: Lawrenceville, GA. USA Registered: Nov 2010
really the gloss yellow wont mess up the connectivity between the points..?
We don't have points. Those metal fingers are magnetized and are not supposed to touch. If you get the inner dist shaft nice and lubed so it spins freely you can feel the magnetic pull between the fingers as the shaft spins.
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gmctyphoon1992 Member
Posts: 693 From: Lighthouse Pt, Florida Registered: Jun 2010
thats what i meant the fingers.. i know their not supposed to touch but i was wondering if it would intrude on the connectivity.. it was a joke anyways im not gonna paint my distributor internals yellow..lol
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gmctyphoon1992 Member
Posts: 693 From: Lighthouse Pt, Florida Registered: Jun 2010
even though this was a joke before i now sit and wonder......... i wonder if you could paint the fingers so they dont rust again but not have any problems from painting them... i bet it could work because i dont think paint would make metal loose magnetitivity any thoughts on that?
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phonedawgz Member
Posts: 17091 From: Green Bay, WI USA Registered: Dec 2009
The parts on my distributor are clear coated. Not I haven't installed it in an engine but yeah it will work just fine.
The only plact that it could make a difference is the grounding of the ICM. I don't thing the ICM actally gets much of a ground from the distributor but yeah. Since the ICM is screwed to the dist base any paint there should be displaced by the screw threads.
I am still planning on painting my reluctor and rotor some nice Green and Gold color scheme.
Carb cleaner on the aluminum. Wire brush on the rotor. Wire brush and then acid on the stator.
New pick up coil. I de-pinned one wire out of the connector to get the twist into the lead wires and the put the pin back in. I did it to make it look nicer, but also it keeps the wires out of the cap flange area.
Oh and after I had things pretty clean anyways, I put the shaft and body in the dishwasher to get them really nice and clean. Did I say I live alone?
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gmctyphoon1992 Member
Posts: 693 From: Lighthouse Pt, Florida Registered: Jun 2010
ok that make sense.. i thought they were really shiny...cool thanks ill be sure pick up on those hints.....when i get around to it ill post pics of progress on it