Go Here.
¡HELP! I'm Lost!
http://home.comcast.net/~fierocave/ofcindex.htm

It's update.

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Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
(Jurassic Park)

The Ogre's Fiero Cave (It's also at the top of every forum page...)

[This message has been edited by theogre (edited 05-10-2009).]

looks fine to me. But I do have the bandwidth to handle the 160 meg java updates.
haven't tried it in the various linuxes I have in a while, so I will likely have to update them too.
java is gettin as bloated from sun as a MS operating system.
most everyone will need a high bandwidth connection now, not soon, as all the updates for any os are off the wall in size.

if you have a good connection, I highly recommend uninstalling all java's then going and downloading fresh, as they just sit there and eat up space on you hard drive, and in the worst case will chew up some memory.

I hate programmers, there is no skill left. just compile it and hope it works.

if builders built buildings the way programmers write software, the first woodpecker that comes along will destroy civilization.

quote Originally posted by tjm4fun: looks fine to me. But I do have the bandwidth to handle the 160 meg java updates.

160 meg? SKD maybe.

10-16 meg typical user.

http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp

Windows XP/Vista/2000/2003/2008 Offline, filesize: 15.53 MB

Windows XP/Vista/2000/2003/2008 Online, filesize: Typical download size is 10 MB, which is the minimum download. The size may increase if additional features are selected. (Features = Yahoo! Toolbar for Firefox/Mozilla)

[This message has been edited by theogre (edited 05-10-2009).]

I have been commenting on this in another thread. I can't see all the links at the left when I click on the cave. I went to the Java site and downloaded what you recommend, but still do not see the links. However, in the second link of your first post (here = http://home.comcast.net/~fierocave/ofcindex.htm) I see all the links just fine. What gives?

Jim

Ahh, thank you for making a nav frame that doesn't use java