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Automatic Shifter Knob Comparison... by RickN
Started on: 10-28-2007 10:59 AM
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Report this Post10-28-2007 10:59 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RickNSend a Private Message to RickNDirect Link to This Post
I've purchased a couple of shifter knobs for my '85GT, a Grand Prix (snake head) version a year or so ago, and a Camaro version just recently. I was looking for a leather, OEM like knob, that was significantly smaller than the stock Fiero knob. I like the snake head but it didn't turn out to be much if any smaller just a different shape. I really like this new Camaro knob.

I probably wouldn't have spent money for the snake head had I realized how large it was but "too soon old, too late smart". With that in mind I thought I'd post some pictures comparing the size of the three for the benefit of others that might be interested.


Left to Right: Camaro knob, Grand Prix (Snake Head) knob, Fiero knob



I should add that even though the locking clip holes are located at different places in the knob, that simply sets the height of the knob on the shifter lever. No modifications are necessary to install either of these replacement knobs.




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Report this Post10-28-2007 03:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for uhlanstanSend a Private Message to uhlanstanDirect Link to This Post
Camaro ,far away but no one can choose for you,in a small cab like fiero the larger object will sometime get in the way
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Report this Post10-28-2007 04:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierodeletreSend a Private Message to fierodeletreDirect Link to This Post
Hey um... you don't like the fiero shifter? I'll take it off your hands...

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Report this Post10-28-2007 04:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RickNSend a Private Message to RickNDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by fierodeletre:

Hey um... you don't like the fiero shifter? I'll take it off your hands...



Thanks for the offer but I'm keeping all the original stuff for a possible future return to stock. It's not that I don't like it, it's more that it's just so out of proportion, size wise, to the car. It looks just like the shifter knob in my wife's '99 TrailBlazer.

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Report this Post10-29-2007 08:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierosoundDirect Link to This Post
Here's a leather wrapped Corvette auto shifter (pictured without button). It looks like a nice size and shape. Has anyone used one of these in their Fiero?

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Report this Post10-29-2007 11:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeDirect Link to This Post
Those 3 shifter handles represent an evolution over time. The oldest is the T-handle shifter, used in the early/mid 80s. In the late 80s, it was replaced with the top-button style. In the mid 90s, that one was replaced with the snake-head. If you look at cars in a salvage yard, you'll see that most small/mid size GM cars from each time period will have the corresponding type of shifter handle. This includes the F-bodies. I'm not sure about the Corvettes, though. I don't see many of them in salvage yards.

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Report this Post10-29-2007 04:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TinyClick Here to visit Tiny's HomePageSend a Private Message to TinyDirect Link to This Post
personaly i like the camaro knob
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Report this Post10-29-2007 06:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierodeletreSend a Private Message to fierodeletreDirect Link to This Post
Blacktree, my Dad's 97 WS6 TA vert has a shifter almost exactly like my fiero's. I've seen 02 with the same one. However, my buddy's 97 3.8 camaro has the top button style. Here's an '02:

same fiero shifter. Maybe a Pontiac thing?

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Report this Post10-29-2007 07:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BlacktreeClick Here to visit Blacktree's HomePageSend a Private Message to BlacktreeDirect Link to This Post
That's interesting. I guess my junkyard observations were a bit off.

But I have seen the top-button type in lots of late 80s / early 90s GM cars, including the Beretta, Corsica, Grand Am, and Camaro. The top-button shifter in my Fiero (not leather) came from a Corsica. I've also seen the snake-head type in 4th-gen Camaros, and a couple other midsize cars (Grand Prix and Lumina, I think?).

I've seen a different type of T-handle handle in some of the mid/large size GM cars (Cutlass, Bonneville, etc). It's more squarish than the Fiero shifter.
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Report this Post10-29-2007 07:59 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierodeletreSend a Private Message to fierodeletreDirect Link to This Post
It's funny how they took the second-gen fiero prototype's cues for the 4th gen firebird, and they also took its shifter of all things...up to the bitter end. What I wouldn't give for a 5th gen bird.

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Report this Post10-29-2007 08:35 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
I've got the same Camaro knob. I've also got a gray vinyl version of the same knob.
I believe there was also another style 80s Camaro knob. It was perfectly round. Almost looked like an 8 ball. Had a round button in the top. Not very common, though.
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Report this Post11-14-2008 07:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierosoundClick Here to visit fierosound's HomePageSend a Private Message to fierosoundDirect Link to This Post
I didn't like the stock T-bar shifter either. Most others sometimes look oversized for the Fiero's console.

I went with an 84 Corvette dark-grey leather wrapped shifter and shortened the steel shaft by 1-inch. The knob matches the dark-grey of the interior. I got a new soft-leather shift boot from Dickman.



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Report this Post11-14-2008 09:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PatrickSend a Private Message to PatrickDirect Link to This Post

When I bought my '86 GT in the spring (my first automatic Fiero which I don't particularly care for), I was surprised at the sheer size of the shifter knob. Good gawd, who designed this large ugly thing?

One of the first things I did was buy a Camaro shifter knob off eBay. Best $2.25 (plus $4.99 shipping) I've ever spent!
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Olds Alero style shifter. Bit higher than the stock one, but kind of nice. Has a groove in it for the shift boot to slide up and over.



Also was looking at the snake head style myself, but still like the Alero one better...
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Report this Post11-15-2008 09:09 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Dennis LaGruaSend a Private Message to Dennis LaGruaDirect Link to This Post
All of these knobs look OK to me but my preference is for the stock T handle. The T handle is a throwback to my racing days when I drove a stick with a Hurst competiton shifter and and T handle with finger grips. As they say "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Since my Fiero has a Rosewood dash I would like to find a matching Rosewood T handle. IMO that would dress up the shifter quite nicely,

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Originally posted by Dennis LaGrua:

All of these knobs look OK to me but my preference is for the stock T handle. The T handle is a throwback to my racing days when I drove a stick with a Hurst competiton shifter and and T handle with finger grips. As they say "beauty is in the eye of the beholder". Since my Fiero has a Rosewood dash I would like to find a matching Rosewood T handle. IMO that would dress up the shifter quite nicely,



I see there a finger grip T-bar shifter on eBay http://c gi.ebay.com/ebaymot...C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318



Is this a rosewood look? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318

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Report this Post11-15-2008 03:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
IMO I'd opt for something more modern, buy a MOMO. The auto shifters come in two styles.

Here's the gun metal/silver;


Black Leather/chrome


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Originally posted by Patrick:

When I bought my '86 GT in the spring (my first automatic Fiero which I don't particularly care for), I was surprised at the sheer size of the shifter knob. Good gawd, who designed this large ugly thing?



My point exactly. I wasn't particularly fond of the common alternatives either. The Corvette one suits me fine.







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Originally posted by fierosound:





Yep, other than a shifter knob for a manual, that one looks the best in a Fiero cabin (from among easily obtainable, relatively inexpensive factory shifter knobs).
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Report this Post11-17-2008 12:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for madcurlSend a Private Message to madcurlDirect Link to This Post
Another option is to use the 2008 auto from Corvette.


Here's a close-up of the leather MOMO auto.

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I have tried all three. What I like most is that they interchange so whenever my mood changes I just change the knob. Why decide on one when you can have whichever one hits your fancy on any given day. Only taake 30 seconds or so to change.
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Report this Post06-11-2009 09:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 07HoffmanndSend a Private Message to 07HoffmanndDirect Link to This Post
will this shifter work?



heres a link...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymot...fPartsQ5fAccessories
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i just bought a wood one because it was 8 bucks so i figured why the hell not. but i still want to know if the other one would fit?
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I havent tried this yet, but when I was a kid my mom had a 83 celebrity with a console and a t-handle shifter, as I remember It was very slender compared to the one in the Fiero, might look ok with a little leather wrapped around it. Might have been a special package like a CL or something like that.
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