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filling holes from spoiler by PS87GT
Started on: 01-07-2009 11:56 AM
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Report this Post01-07-2009 11:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PS87GTSend a Private Message to PS87GTDirect Link to This Post
Just wandering what the best way to fill two holes from spoiler!!
I lowered and moved the factory spoiler back and need to fill the two holes from the original
location!!

I've never done any bodywork, so just looking for ideas and what products to use!!!
Also would like to fill the antenna hole in front fender!!

Thanks,
Rick
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Report this Post01-07-2009 12:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
They make a patch kit for SMC panels. It works just like fiberglass but made for SMC panels like the ones on a Fiero.
You can pick them up at local parts stores. Just fill/patch, sand, prime, and paint.
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Report this Post01-07-2009 12:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fyrebird68Send a Private Message to fyrebird68Direct Link to This Post
Rick,

You and I talked about this, and it sounded like a good idea. I'd like to see a pic of it mounted on the deck. Holes not a problem!

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Report this Post01-07-2009 06:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for White 84 SESend a Private Message to White 84 SEDirect Link to This Post
You ever see those fiberglass repair resin cans at the autoparts store? Thats the stuff and the white cloth, cant forget the squeegee, sand papers, primer, top paint and clear coat.

Rough up the inside of the panel behind the hole.
Cut 3 patches of fiberglass cloth to patch hole plus 3 inches around extra.
Mix Resin and catalyst
Squeegee the resin for the first layer being sure to get it all over good
Place 1st patch into the wet resin
Repeat for the other two patches being sure clothes are good and wet
Allow to cure
Trim extra cloth away
Mix resin for front side
Apply in multiple layers to fill hole to exceed level with the rest of the panel
Sand with coarse paper to get into general shape of panel
Use finer paper to fine tune shaping
Use 220 paper as final rough
Prime with primer designed for flexible panels
Continue with 220 to refine as the flaws will become easier to see
Final primer application
Use 400 paper to smooth the primer
Wash panel and use tack cloth to remove dust
Use Glossy paint designed for plastics and apply 2 coats
Clearcoat with Urathane coat for 2 coats
Allow to dry 2 months
Refine surface with rubbing compound/wax

Am I missing anything anyone?

Oh yea remove the panel from the car first.....



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Report this Post01-07-2009 07:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
Dont use fiberglass kits from the parts store !! Fiero panels are SMC and Polyester resin will let go over time. You need a resin that is SMC compatible from a body shop supply if you want it to last. For the anteena hole on the RRIM plastic fender you can talk to the body shop supply about the two part flexible epoxies for plastics and patch the hole with another piece of RRIM.
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Report this Post01-07-2009 07:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Carver1Send a Private Message to Carver1Direct Link to This Post
Or just use plastic plugs for now. It doesn't look too bad unless it is a show car. You can touch them up with a small body of body color paint. You would probably be the only one who notices!
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Report this Post01-07-2009 07:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaythoClick Here to visit Raytho's HomePageSend a Private Message to RaythoDirect Link to This Post
lord fusor makes a great product for repairing all plastics. 2 part, very easy to use and prep for paint. check your local QUALITY parts store. They should have it
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Report this Post01-07-2009 08:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Tha DriverClick Here to visit Tha Driver's HomePageSend a Private Message to Tha DriverDirect Link to This Post
You need to "V" out the holes from the top. I use SMC repair from Fiberglass Evercoat for the SMC (mix in some fiberglass mat chopped up with scissors), & SEM makes a product for the RRIM (fender).
Do a search & you'll find several threads on the subject(s) with detailed instructions.
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Report this Post01-07-2009 08:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for White 84 SESend a Private Message to White 84 SEDirect Link to This Post
errr My Factory Manual says to use the Resin and Fiberglass...... Which I have done on my car....You say it will seperate?
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Report this Post01-08-2009 12:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 87FastbackGTSend a Private Message to 87FastbackGTDirect Link to This Post
I used fiberglass and resin filler and worked fine for me.
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Report this Post01-08-2009 12:25 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
Way back when I first got my Fiero I read in the factory manual that regular glass resing was to be used also. I deleted my trunk key cylinder and smoothed it out with glass. Lasted about two years before I could see a crack all the way around where it let loose. Next time I went and got some stuff made for Corvette SMC panels, Pricey but its been holding 8 years so far. Guy at the body supply house explained that for production on SMC panels at the factory SMC resin is used because it has mold release agent "built in" so they fill the mold under pressure and heat cure, but the relese agent remains and make it difficult getting repairs to bond well.
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Report this Post01-08-2009 12:35 AM Click Here to See the Profile for BremertonfieroSend a Private Message to BremertonfieroDirect Link to This Post
would bondo work?
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Report this Post01-08-2009 12:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Mike GonzalezSend a Private Message to Mike GonzalezDirect Link to This Post
No Bondo !!! Bondo ULTIMATE will work for small non structural repairs, it is made to work on SMC but not regular Bondo
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Report this Post01-08-2009 04:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for sjmayeSend a Private Message to sjmayeDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Carver1:

Or just use plastic plugs for now. It doesn't look too bad unless it is a show car. You can touch them up with a small body of body color paint. You would probably be the only one who notices!


This is what I want to do so i could always go back to a spoiler later. I wanted to use rubber plugs, but did not find what I needed. The closest thing I found were rubber bumpers designed to be put on a hole in sheet metal. Similar to the little bumpers that the headlight doors come down to rest upon.

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Report this Post01-08-2009 06:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MadscannerSend a Private Message to MadscannerDirect Link to This Post
As I did with mine, having taken off the existing luggage rack and knowing that, sometime in the future, I can deal with it "properly" when I get it painted. The plugs are a plastic "christmas tree" style meant for trim panels.


Rear spoiler with trim buttons plugging existing holes

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Report this Post01-08-2009 06:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Carver1Send a Private Message to Carver1Direct Link to This Post
I used the little assortment pack from autozone. I think it was $5. Then just used a dab of black rtv from the inside to seal it up.
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Report this Post01-08-2009 07:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Like Driver said, use filler for SMC. What I do is ' dish ' the inside AND outside of holes (like this > < ) , put tape over one side and filler on the other. Then pull off tape when dry and fill that side too and it wont fall out because of the barbell shape. If hole is big enough I use a small piece of fiberglass matting larger than the hole and put on the inside while the filler is soft, and more SMC filler over it. The SMC filler will soak into the fabric just like the resin does.
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Report this Post01-08-2009 10:10 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PS87GTSend a Private Message to PS87GTDirect Link to This Post
Thanks for all the information!!!
Will get a pic posted to show the new spoiler location!!

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Report this Post01-08-2009 01:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Direct Link to This Post
SO, afterwards is there a way to spot paint, or does one need to paint the whole decklid?
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Report this Post01-08-2009 03:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PS87GTSend a Private Message to PS87GTDirect Link to This Post
I plan on just using some touch-up paint!!
My car is not a show car--- it's a DD for about nine months a year!!

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