I see the kits on eBay all the time for Fiero sequentials. However at $80 for what seems to me to be a simple circut, I am wondering since there are a lot of engineers and electrical gurus here how can you build a circut board to do this???

I ordered parts to build one or two at some point this winter. I'm going to do my 85Gt.

But the parts and time to build them $80 is not to out of line depending on what is included.

I'm going to design mine with SCR's, adjustable timers, and a solid state flasher.

But again it's a winter project after the holidays.

You might take a look at the following website.

.....http://www.webelectricproducts.com/......

I think that they have what you are looking for.

I hope this proves helpful.

~Bob

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Bubbajoexxx built his own box that I installed in the newest project.
Drop him a PM, he is known to help the DIYers.

Here's the finished product with lights all the way across and they are speed adjustable:

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Those are badass. Not sure if it's legal? Still badass though

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quote Originally posted by Fiero2m8: Bubbajoexxx built his own box that I installed in the newest project. Drop him a PM, he is known to help the DIYers. Here's the finished product with lights all the way across and they are speed adjustable:

Me likey....thanks I will PM the man.

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Those are really neat!

I asked about webelectric kit in another thread. Maybe someone here knows -- can three-light sequentials be done on GT tail lamps?

quote Originally posted by FieroBobo: You might take a look at the following website. ..... http://www.webelectricproducts.com/......

I put the 3-light seqentials on my Indy. They work really well and look great. Very 80's

Great support from Lawrence at webelectric. Promptly answered all my email questions.

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quote Originally posted by fyrebird68: I asked about webelectric kit in another thread. Maybe someone here knows -- can three-light sequentials be done on GT tail lamps?

I believe you just have to replace the one socket that is a tail light only so you have the duel filament. At least that is what I have to do on my 85GT. I pick them up at salvage yards to swap out.

quote Originally posted by Carver1: Those are badass. Not sure if it's legal? Still badass though

I'm curious myself, I know some cops might frown on that because of the sequencing of the lights simulating a light bar. Isn't that why they didn't put them on cars in the first place? They even ticket you for having a different color light on your car, blinking or not, other than red, yellow, orange, or white.

So yeah, what's the law on this? I'd love to do the same thing with mine, make it really stick out like a sore thumb :P

They were originally put on cars - starting with the 1965 Thunderbird. The feature was supposedly developed for the 1964 model but they couldn't ensure they were legal in all states until the 65 model year.

I've got one of them I'm restoring and the sequencing is one of my favorite features. Well that and the swing-away steering wheel.

there are instructions everywhere online to make these. i have them printed out from a few different sources.

i found these through some somewhat tough searching. found on a impalla ss (the LT1 body) forum
https://home.comcast.net/~jormendoza/1.pdf
https://home.comcast.net/~jormendoza/2.pdf
https://home.comcast.net/~jormendoza/3.pdf

http://www.impalassforum.co...highlight=sequential

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quote Originally posted by Dodgerunner: I believe you just have to replace the one socket that is a tail light only so you have the duel filament. At least that is what I have to do on my 85GT. I pick them up at salvage yards to swap out.

Dodge, I PM'ed Lawrence from webelectric and told him what I wanted to do (put three-light sequencers on a GT) and he believes I'll have to do a two-light. I really want the three light setup - have you done this, or at least worked it through on paper?

Bob

Well, I finally got off my lazy butt, went out and LOOKED at the back of my GT!

The turn signals (amber, 2 lights on each side) are located above the tail/brake lights (red, 2 lights on each side).

There are no lights arranged in such a way as to provide three sequential turn indicators. :">

Lawrence is correct - I will have to uses the STS2 (two-light) setup.

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diagram for sequential lights (forgot where it came from, so I can't give proper credit):

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yes, just convert the whole rear light assembly to a LED grid, and then do whatever you want with it. sequentials one day, cylon scanning red dot the next, maybe pointy arrows, scrolling text - whatever fits the mood.

and - while that $80 seems a bit much - just wait untill you start doing custom fab work. materials & waste quickly shoot price up.

quote Originally posted by AlanD: .... the sequencing is one of my favorite features.

same here - had them on a "68 cougar XR-7.

i have the webelectric kit on my 88 formula and it is VERY cool. You might need to change the flasher to a mechanical one (stock is electric) to get the timing correct - when you do this mod, sometimes the lights flash too quickly.

Thanks for the diagrams folks. Time to find the soldering iron. I'm going to have the coolest lights on the block. Cooler than that 16 year old kid who's parents bought him a new white convertable Saleen. Can you say wrecked car and dead spoiled teenager?

You might like this post also. The schemo uses LM556 which are very easy to find.
You can still use the SCr's for the lights instead of the relays also.
http://www.gofastforless.com/electrical/lights.htm
If you build one you do have to get an electronic flasher instead of the stock on you know... or make of like in the the above link.

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quote Originally posted by Mickey_Moose: diagram for sequential lights (forgot where it came from, so I can't give proper credit):

thats the image i was looking all over for. i have it printed out and a copy saved in my phone. along witha few others. im sure it came from a fiero site. maybe fiero sails fiero secrets. but those links dont work anymore. and the other is for webelectric.

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quote Originally posted by Mickey_Moose: diagram for sequential lights (forgot where it came from, so I can't give proper credit):

20ish in parts, I might have to visit the local electronics supply store, or order the parts from partsexpress. BTW, The scr TIC106M crosses to a NTE5438 which will be much easier to find.

I repeat you have to replace your flasher with an electronic flasher if you make this sequencer or it will not work.. Just want to be sure you realize that.

To explain more, once an scr is turned on in order for it to turn off the voltage must be removed or the polarity has to reverse. If you using AC voltage this is not a problem. But since your on DC voltage you have to remove the voltage to turn the SCR off.
The stock flasher has a small heating element that makes the flasher work. The element is always feeding a small amount of power to the lights when the turn signal switch is on. Once the SCR is switched on the voltage never goes away until you turn off the signal switch so the lights would stay on and only the inside turn signal light would flash. The electronic flashers use a relay so power is removed on each flash.

You might have known this but just being a wordy Electronic Eng. for those that might not know...

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