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We've talked oil, but what about filters? by NashvilleFiero
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Would like to discuss oil filters. Do we have any data of info on who makes the best filter?

I am sure Fram makes a few unbranded names too.

Your thoughts?

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Report this Post06-19-2008 10:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Younggun88Send a Private Message to Younggun88Direct Link to This Post
I have used K&N, Mobil One and, Amsoil. I like the mobil One decent price at 9.99 but will last for 15,000 miles. there is a test online somewhere where they test differnt filters. also i get the 201 instead of the 101 since it is larger. BTW this in on my 3800SC fiero.
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Report this Post06-19-2008 10:48 AM Click Here to See the Profile for XanthClick Here to visit Xanth's HomePageSend a Private Message to XanthDirect Link to This Post
I use the K&N , I believe its the same design as the Mobil1 from what I've seen online.
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Report this Post06-19-2008 10:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for olejoedadClick Here to Email olejoedadSend a Private Message to olejoedadDirect Link to This Post
The online report that was posted here a few years ago was great, and made it very clear - keep you GM car all GM - use an AC Delco filter - there is nothing better - just more expensive.
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Report this Post06-19-2008 11:29 AM Click Here to See the Profile for NashvilleFieroSend a Private Message to NashvilleFieroDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by olejoedad:

The online report that was posted here a few years ago was great, and made it very clear - keep you GM car all GM - use an AC Delco filter - there is nothing better - just more expensive.


would like to see this : )

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Report this Post06-19-2008 12:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FirefighterClick Here to Email FirefighterSend a Private Message to FirefighterDirect Link to This Post
Fram makes the WORST filters now. Fram used to make one of the best filters years ago and then they were bought by Allied. The bean counters go involved and decided they could use cheaper parts and sell the filters for the same price. So, all the former metal internals are now plastic and the older plastic parts are now cardboard; real quality. Stick with the original PF-52 AC filter, NAPA filters which are made by Wicks, Amsoil, or Mobil 1.

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

The online report that was posted here a few years ago was great, and made it very clear - keep you GM car all GM - use an AC Delco filter - there is nothing better - just more expensive.


thats funny to hear, AC delco dont make their own filters, they just re-box whoever gives them a better deal and matches their specs...


at my work, we sell 2 brands, fram, and champ
the champ filter rep came in one day with a nice cutting device, bought 2 filters for the same car and cut them open.
the frams were carboard backings hot-glued into place
the champ was a nitril(sp) that was rivited, the fram cost about $3 more then the champ.... you figure it out

champ is the main filter maker for alot of other "re-brands"...

this is a good review to read about oil filters.
http://people.msoe.edu/~yod.../oilfilterstudy.html
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Report this Post06-19-2008 12:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mrfieroClick Here to Email mrfieroSend a Private Message to mrfieroDirect Link to This Post
I use NAPA Gold filters (made by Wix).
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Just got in this discussion recently as we're getting ready to fire my new engine, from discussions I've had the Amsoil and WIX are the best for fine micron filtration and high flow.

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Our work shop mechanics switched away from Fram in favor of Wix in all the work trucks. I've got the P-52 number memorized so I usually get the AC Delco in that size, it's longer and easier for me to replace and IIRC, it's an even 5 quarts in my V-6.
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Originally posted by jetman:

Our work shop mechanics switched away from Fram in favor of Wix in all the work trucks. I've got the P-52 number memorized so I usually get the AC Delco in that size, it's longer and easier for me to replace and IIRC, it's an even 5 quarts in my V-6.


What does IIRC mean?
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Originally posted by NashvilleFiero:


What does IIRC mean?


IIRC = if I remembered correctly.

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Report this Post06-19-2008 04:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NashvilleFieroSend a Private Message to NashvilleFieroDirect Link to This Post
Anyone remember the toilet paper oil filters you used to be able to get from JC Whitney? lol
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GM Made your engine, Use their Delco Filters!!

If you get to know the parts guy, they are under $6 each.

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Report this Post06-19-2008 05:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GokartSend a Private Message to GokartDirect Link to This Post
I've been using Fram's for years because of the nice grip on the tops. Guess I won't anymore.
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Hastings!!!!! Top Notch QUALITY. - / WIx - My second choice to Hastings - K&N I like the built on nut - Branded CHAMP a-ok but not much distribution. FRAM= JUNK sold out to the retailers and it shows. House brands napa/carquest/etc.. usually from a quality manufacture but are "compromise" filters (may not have some of the features of the BRAND NAME filter ie.. back flow valve) DELCO as was said above - many sources and a bunch off shore manufacturing.
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Here it is. The toilet paper roll oil filter!!! No sh*@!

http://www.wefilterit.com/

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Originally posted by NashvilleFiero:

Here it is. The toilet paper roll oil filter!!! No sh*@!

http://www.wefilterit.com/



I like this quote the best "Test results have shown that the average engine circulates more than 1.8 tons of dirt per year!"

Geez no wonder my car is so heavy!!

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I've got a WIX. My mechanic hates me for it, he'll put an ACDelco on it when it gets changed plus some good ole' Northland Oil.
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hastings or amsoil. only two worth a damn
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Originally posted by NashvilleFiero:

Anyone remember the toilet paper oil filters you used to be able to get from JC Whitney? lol


Yes, and they were messy to change. I did one in shop, about 1965, on a 1955 T bird.
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I go out of my way to go to a store that carries Wix.
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I have not seen a Hastings filter since I was a child - that's long ago. Who carries Hastings filters?
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I usually use Wix. but I also pick up AC's at a good price at that place everyone complains about.....Wallyworld...
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Originally posted by Firefighter:

I have not seen a Hastings filter since I was a child - that's long ago. Who carries Hastings filters?


Hastings and Baldwin are both headquartered at the same address in Kearney, Nebraska. The web sites are: http://hastingsfilter.com/start.html and http://www.baldwinfilter.com/start.html

You can put in your zip code to find a dealer near you. Federated Auto Parts is one place that carries Hastiings.

I was surprised a while back to see both listed as making a filter for the 88 L4 engine.


edit....More on Hastings from answers.com:
 
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Hastings sold its filter-making operations in the fall of 1995 to Clarcor, Inc. of Rockford, Illinois for $13.9 million. The deal included the company's Yankton and Knoxville facilities. After the sale was finalized, Clarcor would continue to make filters under the Hastings and Casite names, joining its own Baldwin, Clair, and Airguard brands. Hastings' decision to sell had been motivated by a desire to concentrate the company's efforts on its core product line of piston rings. A total of 250 employees who were involved with the filter operation were transferred to Clarcor, leaving Hastings with a total of 624.

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I've heard that the Delco filters are becoming worse in quality. I have noticed that the inside looks a little different now on the PF-52. I need to find an old one and compare it to these new ones.
Wix filters are good. The Mobil 1 and K&N use a synthetic media instead of paper. I haven't used one yet, but from what I hear they are very good.
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Report this Post06-21-2008 07:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FrugalFieroDirect Link to This Post
I've been using Super Tech oil / filters from Wal Mart for years. Both are rated well and a good value.
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Wal-Mart stopped carrying AC Delco's PF52 years ago, but now they stock them again.
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I was at the local speed shop just a few days ago and talked to them in depth about what filters they run on race motors. He said, they have done cut aways on many filters and the K&N seems to be one of the best they have taken apart. I have used the K&N filter on my last 2 oil changes in my 88GT. Actually did an oil change on it last night. I still have the filter.

Anyone have any suggestions on the easiest way to cut it open. If I can get it apart, I will take pics.

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Damn...I just bought a Fram sure grip to do an oil change on the Fiero...what can i use it for now? A paper weight? Pencil holder?

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