ok, i know of a monsoon from a 01 ram air t/a that i can get. i am needing to know if i need the amp from that system as well and where it is located in the t/a.
upon a search, i have seen "UP3" mentioned here. i am guessing that is the rpo code.
i could not find anything specific for my search as to if i need that monsoon amp as well. then how i am going to be able to wire it up to the stock sub.
thank you for all of your help everyone!
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fierosound Member
Posts: 15155 From: Calgary, Canada Registered: Nov 1999
for me to be able to use the T/A monsoon amp, can i connect that to my stock sub? it looks like you are using some other kind of non-monsoon amp.would i connect a monsoon amp to my stock amp (sounds like a big no-no) or bypass it and deal with not having control of the amp output from the slider on my dome light?
im looking to get the 10 speaker or however many system minus the speakers that are in T/A's.
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Posts: 15155 From: Calgary, Canada Registered: Nov 1999
for me to be able to use the T/A monsoon amp, can i connect that to my stock sub? it looks like you are using some other kind of non-monsoon amp.would i connect a monsoon amp to my stock amp (sounds like a big no-no) or bypass it and deal with not having control of the amp output from the slider on my dome light?
im looking to get the 10 speaker or however many system minus the speakers that are in T/A's.
Use the deck to run your 4 speakers, and the stock sub amp for the subwoofer. Someone else can chime in on how to get that working.
You don't need the Monsoon amp at all, but if that's what you want to do, you'll need a Helm's wiring diagram for the T/A's audio system to see how everything is hooked up and figure it out from there.
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americasfuture2k Member
Posts: 7131 From: Edmond, Oklahoma Registered: Jan 2006
i have seen on many sources that the monsoon sounds hoorrible with out the amp. and i am thing that is like the bose, the amp is also the signal proccessor.
i just came up with a way to make that sub slider work with a monsoon amp. im sure that the slider is just a simple potentiometer since it was designed in the 80's. just run that in line with the signal before it is amped so you have control of how loud it can be.
im sure that monsoon amp is a signal processor too. how else can you control 10 speakers with a 4 out head unit? but trying to fit 10 speakers of any size into a fiero is pretty pointless. but what i was thinking was making some plate speakers like the ones you designed without the component speakers driver. just use the tweet signal to the tweets in the plate and the front mids to the mids in the plates. and of course, back speakers are wired up the same as any regular setup. and the sub out to the sub. these will all be coming from the signal proccessor/amp.
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Posts: 15155 From: Calgary, Canada Registered: Nov 1999
i have seen on many sources that the monsoon sounds hoorrible with out the amp. and i am thing that is like the bose, the amp is also the signal proccessor.
The Delco Monsoon head unit is no different from any other GM Delco head unit in the way it works. The "Monsoon" part is the external amplifier and different speakers.
ah ok, that makes sense. i do need to research more into them. but im pretty sure i can get the headunit, amp and wiring from this guy i work with for a very fair price. its cheaper than trying to interface an aftermarket amp that may be too powerful.
after reading some of that link, it sounds like the monsoon subs have a lil amp on them. not a problem, i can use the fiero amp in line with it all if that is the case.
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Xanth Member
Posts: 6886 From: Massachusetts Registered: May 2006
I modified the overhead console to control my Kicker amp, the slider inside is a B Taper 10kohm Stereo Potentiometer if I remember correctly, however the function range is 10 to 20k. For some reason they ran one signal through both sides of the slider, so at zero it reads 10k ohms, and maxed it reads 20k. Must have been cheaper than wiring a mono 10k pot with a 10k resistor in front of it.
On my modified unit I replaced the slider with two 50k ohm B taper sliders, I couldn't find a stereo slider to suit at the time. The sliders now control a hi-level converter that feeds my amp.
I'm working on a much simplified version that will plug right in even if the car was not originally equipped.
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americasfuture2k Member
Posts: 7131 From: Edmond, Oklahoma Registered: Jan 2006
well i got my monsoon and made my own cable from parts from the junkyard and an adapter plug from wally-world. i had to of course remove that backing plate in the radio housing and unbolt a bundle of wires so the radio would go in all the way. to power the stock amp, i just jumpered the switched power to the "antenna" wire to turn on the amp at startup.
all in all, it works great! the stuck sub sounds a little fluttery and not very sharp. of course. i think my sub has been replaced before. but even with a replacement that fits in the stock location, its not going to sound to well.
i also have the 10 speaker firebird monsoon amp that i will be hooking up later. i need to replace the speakers with some homemade plates that are of a decent quality that wont fry from the 500w monsoon amp.
