Alright, the Duke in my 85 2m4 coupe is sitting right at 205K original miles, and I'm starting to think it's minor-overhaul time. It doesn't smoke at all, I've replaced most of the sensors, so now I'm leaning toward general mechanical stuff. I'm shying away from a new fiber camshaft gear set, and I can't find any parts stores (Advance, Pep Boys, or O'Reilleys) that can source the alloy or steel timing sets or individual gears. It looks like I'm heading toward the Fierostore's alloy set, but I've come across a Cloyes steel "straight-cut" set for "Pontiac 151 race engines." I'm wondering if this would be a reliable set-up in lieu of the alloy set for a daily driver, if they're notably stronger than the alloy set, or if the only caveat might be a "whine" sometimes associated with the big 350 gear-drives. Thanks in advance!
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StockGT Member
Posts: 386 From: O.C. , California Registered: Feb 2007
Most parts stores should give you the option of Steel / Alloy timing gear set. Since the Fiero had the Fiber gear, that is what the parts books will show for a Fiero 2.5L . Try looking at the timing gear set for a 1964 Chevrolet Nova 2.5L.
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KurtAKX Member
Posts: 4008 From: West Bloomfield, MI Registered: Feb 2002
I believe the Chevy 250 I-6 timing sets also fit the Iron Duke, though I'm not 100% sure.
I do know that the Cloyes catalog shows at least one timing set common between Pontiac 151 and Chevy 250.
I also know that they said just because its not listed as a fit doesn't mean necessarily that it won't work, it just means they've never validated the components for that application.
Good luck! I have a 8-1018 set (or something like that) which is a steel/alum helical cut set that I plan on using.
Kurt
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The_Stickman2 Member
Posts: 1030 From: Lehigh Valley Pa. Registered: Sep 2007
There is also a strait cut set available in the rock auto website. Overkill for a stock rebuild IMO. The fibre gears last for a long time. I have had several duke engines with 250,000-400,00 km that still had decent gears on the timing set. Only one engine had a fibre tooth failure. It was in the 400,000 km range.
Primary reason for the fiber gear is noise reduction. If the engine is maintained properly and the oil changed regularly the fiber gear will last the life of the motor.
JazzMan
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Posts: 12207 From: Jordan, MN Registered: Feb 2002
I believe the Chevy 250 I-6 timing sets also fit the Iron Duke, though I'm not 100% sure. Kurt
Yes. That is correct. We did that on the first Fiero we owned. Steel to Steel timing gears. We also enlarged the oiling port for the gears, which helped some with the whine.
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The_Stickman2 Member
Posts: 1030 From: Lehigh Valley Pa. Registered: Sep 2007
Primary reason for the fiber gear is noise reduction. If the engine is maintained properly and the oil changed regularly the fiber gear will last the life of the motor.
JazzMan
Sorry but I can't agree wih that. Mostly because I had one go on me. It was my daily driver and was properly maintained. I have seen them go on other engines that use the same set.