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Brake swap? by Brandyn
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I was just wondering for the people who have done brake swaps. About how much did it cost total and what is all involved. My dad and I took off one of my rear brakes and may not be able to get it back on with the confidence that it wont leak, so i will probably end up spending a few bucks on breaks from Fierostore

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If you can find some good 88 calipers then you can do a 12" corvette brake swap from fieroaddiction. Kit is about 400 + you need to get the calipers. Its the cheapest 12" brake swap I have ever seen.

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What year Fiero? 84 - 87 is different than the 88. Lots of options on the earlier models, 88 has good brakes.
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the car is an 85 notchback
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Originally posted by Winkie:

If you can find some good 88 calipers then you can do a 12" corvette brake swap from fieroaddiction. Kit is about 400 + you need to get the calipers. Its the cheapest 12" brake swap I have ever seen.

Ryan


88 calipers will work on the earlier cars?
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Yup. You buy the calipers and the 84-87 kit from fieroaddiction. The kit comes with new front hubs the rotors and the caliper brackets. The bracket just moves the caliper out due to the rotor having a larger diameter. Works great. They are easy to install and look good. You do need at least a 16" wheel (I think)

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thanks for the insight, now the question is...to try and convince my dad to let me do a swap or buy the rear caliper from fierostore? whadaya think.
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Originally posted by Brandyn:

My dad and I took off one of my rear brakes and may not be able to get it back on with the confidence that it wont leak ...



This alone tells me that your best bet is to remain stock. Brakes are too important to safety for you and your dad to be attempting a conversion.
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I have the Grand Am/Caddy conversion and it works great.

Grand Am needs a bit of turning down on the front rotors to fit, but the back ones go straight on. Grand Am rotors and calipers are cheap compared to other options. If you want the ebrake you have to get the 85 Seville calipers for the rear from Rock Auto, and the conversion brackets from DPWood.

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Originally posted by Marvin McInnis:


This alone tells me that your best bet is to remain stock. Brakes are too important to safety for you and your dad to be attempting a conversion.


I think you're right, and yes safety is important. I really just trying to get it back on the road so i think ill keep it stock.

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Originally posted by Arns85GT:

I have the Grand Am/Caddy conversion and it works great.

Grand Am needs a bit of turning down on the front rotors to fit, but the back ones go straight on. Grand Am rotors and calipers are cheap compared to other options. If you want the ebrake you have to get the 85 Seville calipers for the rear from Rock Auto, and the conversion brackets from DPWood.

Arn


I PM 'd DPWood and got no reply

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I think you're right, and yes safety is important. I really just trying to get it back on the road so i think ill keep it stock.

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Brandyn


If you need to replace the rear calipers, and your car is an auto. I suggest buying 1990 Beretta front calipers and mounting them in the rear. They are direct bolt on, and are only like $18 a piece at advanced auto. The Fiero calipers are $50 a piece at auto zone and advanced auto, plus they have problems with their auto adjustment using the hand brake. If you still want to keep your e-brake, then go ahead and keep the fiero calipers, but if it's an auto, I doubt your e-brake still works. Most people wouldn't use it on an auto causing it to seize up.

Left caliper Part Number: 184684
Right Caliper Part Number: 184685

The only thing required when mounting these as back brakes, is undoing the bolt that holds the brake line to the shock. The spot that the brake line hooks up to the caliper is a little lower than on the fiero brakes, so the brake line doesn't reach with it bolted to the shock.
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Report this Post04-24-2008 08:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BrandynClick Here to Email BrandynSend a Private Message to BrandynDirect Link to This Post
would it change if i had a manual without the ebrake? My ebrake hasnt been connected since before the previous owner, and im not really concerned with hooking it back up.

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Brandyn

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Do yourself a favor and replace the rubber brake lines while your at it. If the caliper is so bad, the line is probably not much better. The rubber lines tend to swell after a number of years and will act as a one-way valve. You apply pressure and the caliper locks up. It eventually heats enough to cause a fire if the hose melts.

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Originally posted by NashvilleFiero:


I PM 'd DPWood and got no reply



Not surprised. He's real busy. He is the guy who make them though. He will get back in due course. I'll remind him when I talk to him.

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Originally posted by Brandyn:

would it change if i had a manual without the ebrake? My ebrake hasnt been connected since before the previous owner, and im not really concerned with hooking it back up.

thanks
Brandyn



Nope, wouldn't make a difference. Just figured your e-brake may be good, and if so with a manual you might want it. Really, if your e-brake is already bad, just go with the beretta brakes in the rear. I had a bad rear brake caliper and rather than paying $50 a piece for new calipers that didn't even come with the hand brake bracket and spring (which are needed for the brakes to work properly), I figured why not start a beretta swap and save some money. Eventually I'll replace the front calipers too, but that requires either machining the hub off the front rotor, or buying a rotorless hub for it, which costs a bit more. If you need to get rotors also, the front beretta rotors will fit on the back, and are slotted.

IMO, if you need new calipers, I say go for the swap. Just as much work, less money, and less headaches in the long run.
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